The U.K and the E.U - In or out?

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

It would appear that Sturgeon has attached far too much Importance to herself

European Council president REJECTS meeting with Nicola Sturgeon This link just one of many saying the same thing .

Now that's one on the nose for the sturgeon.

No more foie gras, back to haggis and turnip munching.

**piwanoi** · 29-06-2016, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by piwanoi

It would appear that Sturgeon has attached far too much Importance to herself

European Council president REJECTS meeting with Nicola Sturgeon This link just one of many saying the same thing .

Now that's one on the nose for the sturgeon.

No more foie gras, back to haggis and turnip munching.

It would seem that To Donald Tusk the Sturgeon is just a Minnow

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 11:48 AM

She's deffo a tad fishy, red dress and all, maybe a red herring.

**piwanoi** · 29-06-2016, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

She's deffo a tad fishy, red dress and all, maybe a red herring.

Well Tusk has certainly Kippered her !

**Seekingasylum** · 29-06-2016, 01:08 PM

As I understand it, that shit about Tusk "refusing" to speak to her is the Daily Telegraph spin on events and bears little relevance to anything that may be true. The Telegraph took the Brexit line and their financial pundits have lost what little credibility they ever had as a consequence

It is as reliable as the total drivel the Daily Mail reported today that the EU majority are about to compel the remaining "Euroless" countries to take the currency.

Personally speaking, I have generally little difficulty in distinguishing utter, complete shite from truth but I can well understand how the majority of English monkey fuckers swallow propaganda so easily given they are retarded, bigoted, small minded little nazis too fucking stupid to work out the difference between their arses and fucking holes in the ground.

**piwanoi** · 29-06-2016, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

As I understand it, that shit about Tusk "refusing" to speak to her is the Daily Telegraph spin on events and bears little relevance to anything that may be true. The Telegraph took the Brexit line and their financial pundits have lost what little credibility they ever had as a consequence

It is as reliable as the total drivel the Daily Mail reported today that the EU majority are about to compel the remaining "Euroless" countries to take the currency.

Personally speaking, I have generally little difficulty in distinguishing utter, complete shite from truth but I can well understand how the majority of English monkey fuckers swallow propaganda so easily given they are retarded, bigoted, small minded little nazis too fucking stupid to work out the difference between their arses and fucking holes in the ground.

The Link about Tusk refusing to meet Sturgeon was in neither the Torygraph or the Mail

Take your pick out of this dozen or so ,they all say the same thing .https://www.google.co.th/?gws_rd=cr&...cola+sturgeon+

**DrB0b** · 29-06-2016, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

As I understand it, that shit about Tusk "refusing" to speak to her is the Daily Telegraph spin on events and bears little relevance to anything that may be true. The Telegraph took the Brexit line and their financial pundits have lost what little credibility they ever had as a consequence

It is as reliable as the total drivel the Daily Mail reported today that the EU majority are about to compel the remaining "Euroless" countries to take the currency.

Personally speaking, I have generally little difficulty in distinguishing utter, complete shite from truth but I can well understand how the majority of English monkey fuckers swallow propaganda so easily given they are retarded, bigoted, small minded little nazis too fucking stupid to work out the difference between their arses and fucking holes in the ground.

The Link about Tusk refusing to meet Sturgeon was in neither the Torygraph or the Mail

Take your pick out of this dozen or so ,they all say the same thing .https://www.google.co.th/?gws_rd=cr&...cola+sturgeon+

It's no snub. She's meeting with Juncker and Schultz instead as they're the appropriate people to talk to at this point. You'd know that if you were able to read past headlines.

**Bettyboo** · 29-06-2016, 01:31 PM

^ really? Apparently, Junker is not even in Brussels today, so she won't be meeting him for a while. &, the HeraldScotland have been using the word snub...

Nicola Sturgeon’s plan to bypass the UK Government and lobby the EU directly to let Scotland stay has suffered a major setback after the president of the powerful European Council rejected her invitation for talks.

...

But Donald Tusk, the council president, declined her overtures by arguing that a meeting would be “not appropriate” given the “situation in the UK.”

His refusal is significant as the European Council comprises the heads of all the member states, who would have to unanimously agree to any special deal for Scotland, whether it was independent or not.

Several central and eastern European states are reported to be concerned that meeting Ms Sturgeon would encourage other separatist movements.
Nicola Sturgeon suffers major setback as Donald Tusk rejects invitation for Brexit talks on Scotland's future

Obviously the extremist lunatics such as Juncker and Shulz will try to cause as much trouble as possible, but the European Union obviously can't have discussions with Scotland, London or Golders Green on this issue; it's ridiculous, and as predicted she will get nothing from it.

EU Council President Donald Tusk has said he will not be meeting First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to discuss how Scotland can stay in the EU after the UK’s Brexit vote.

The snub came as Ms Sturgeon is due in Brussels tomorrow for top level talks over her plan to keep the country – which voted Remain in the referendum – as part of the EU.

However, Mr Tusk has reportedly said that now is not the time to discuss Scotland’s position.
EU Council President Donald Tusk snubs Nicola Sturgeon (From Herald Scotland)

**Begbie** · 29-06-2016, 01:34 PM

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 01:39 PM

Whatever she's after, Sturgeon will have to wait until UK's final departure from the EU, and after Scotland's independence, if it ever arrives.

**Bettyboo** · 29-06-2016, 01:40 PM

^^ maybe he's come back to Brussels specially to meet her; it's easy to see why one would:

I previously supported Scottish independence, but this timing just won't work. The Scots need to wait and see how things pan out, actually, they don't have the option...

A much more valid argument at this time, if it can be mutually agreed (I mean between the two Irish countries) would be Irish reunion. If the North want to stay in Europe then now would be a good time to fully integrate with the South; of course, that'd have to wait until after Brexit was complete too, but preparations could certainly be made.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-06-2016, 01:40 PM

Tusk is simply playing a line, he's actually an acquaintance of Sturgeon and they get on well.

Reading anything in the press these days is becoming a depressing experience not least because of the deteriorating quality of their copy, the poverty of their sources and the diminution of their intellect as they chase the market ever downwards and dumber.

Brexit is the measure of how stupid and bigoted the majority of English monkey fuckers have become. Now, that's the truth.

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

Link?

**Begbie** · 29-06-2016, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

Link?

Angus Robertson MP. Use your internet skills.

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^^ maybe he's come back to Brussels specially to meet her; it's easy to see why one would:

I previously supported Scottish independence, but this timing just won't work. The Scots need to wait and see how things pan out, actually, they don't have the option...

A much more valid argument at this time, if it can be mutually agreed (I mean between the two Irish countries) would be Irish reunion. If the North want to stay in Europe then now would be a good time to fully integrate with the South; of course, that'd have to wait until after Brexit was complete too, but preparations could certainly be made.

I see a united Ireland as being on the cards, sooner than an independent Scotland.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-06-2016, 01:54 PM

it's on the fucking BBC news.

Sturgeon simply has to take the decision to seek independence sooner than later although their current deficit is not helpful.

The only thing she needs is the commitment from the EU powers that Scotland will be admitted for integration in the union without any delay and wasting time as an associate member.

As I have said before, being shackled to the £ sterling is no longer desirable now that the currency is depreciating to a level where it is simply inconsequential and she should take the new state of Scotland into the euro.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-06-2016, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^^ maybe he's come back to Brussels specially to meet her; it's easy to see why one would:

I previously supported Scottish independence, but this timing just won't work. The Scots need to wait and see how things pan out, actually, they don't have the option...

A much more valid argument at this time, if it can be mutually agreed (I mean between the two Irish countries) would be Irish reunion. If the North want to stay in Europe then now would be a good time to fully integrate with the South; of course, that'd have to wait until after Brexit was complete too, but preparations could certainly be made.

I see a united Ireland as being on the cards, sooner than an independent Scotland.

Are you addicted to ketamine or is it only a Glastonbury thing?

**DrB0b** · 29-06-2016, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ really?

Yes, really.

**piwanoi** · 29-06-2016, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? which is all I claimed FFS as well as a dozen or so Newspapers

.

**Begbie** · 29-06-2016, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? which is all I claimed FFS as well as a dozen or so Newspapers

.

In English please.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-06-2016, 02:06 PM

In practice, Junker is the engine driver or organ grinder, Tusk a rather fetching oily rag or monkey.

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 02:08 PM

"(Sturgeon) told Holyrood yesterday that although a second independence referendum was not her “starting point”, she has already asked officials to begin preparing legislation for a second vote in case experts conclude that would be the best way for Scotland to remain within the EU. All options must be on the table, Ms Sturgeon insisted."
Fast FT

Only to be expected.

A second independence referendum in Scotland,...risky.

**ENT** · 29-06-2016, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^^ maybe he's come back to Brussels specially to meet her; it's easy to see why one would:

I previously supported Scottish independence, but this timing just won't work. The Scots need to wait and see how things pan out, actually, they don't have the option...

A much more valid argument at this time, if it can be mutually agreed (I mean between the two Irish countries) would be Irish reunion. If the North want to stay in Europe then now would be a good time to fully integrate with the South; of course, that'd have to wait until after Brexit was complete too, but preparations could certainly be made.

I see a united Ireland as being on the cards, sooner than an independent Scotland.

Are you addicted to ketamine or is it only a Glastonbury thing?

What makes you think that Scotland will become independent in a hurry?

The Scots voted against independence, 44.70% voted Yes, with 55.30% voting No.

There's a growing move towards a United Ireland, and after Brexit comes into effect the Irish are going to want better control of their borders than UK may be able to afford.

Bear in mind that both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland have no desire to exit the EU,.....so far.

**piwanoi** · 29-06-2016, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? which is all I claimed FFS as well as a dozen or so Newspapers

.

In English please.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? now what part of that do you not comprehend

**Begbie** · 29-06-2016, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Begbie

She's meeting with Junker at 17:00hrs local time.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? which is all I claimed FFS as well as a dozen or so Newspapers

.

In English please.

When is she meeting up with Tusk? now what part of that do you not comprehend

DrBob answered your question in post 1386. Let me know if you need assistance with anything else.

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