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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    I have a hard time believing any self respecting college student isn't lauging his/her ass off at these guidelines. They read like something cobbled together from some administrator Cover-Your-Ass manual.
    On the assumption that the average college student is connected enough to recognize such to be amused.

    I wouldn't bet on it.
    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
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    I have a hard time believing any self respecting college student isn't lauging his/her ass off at these guidelines. They read like something cobbled together from some administrator Cover-Your-Ass manual.
    On the assumption that the average college student is connected enough to recognize such to be amused.

    I wouldn't bet on it.
    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.


    The key phrase alluding to his generation not yours, things have changed dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.
    Wine on the library lawn while zoning out on deckchairs . . . Ah, those were the days

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.
    Wine on the library lawn while zoning out on deckchairs . . . Ah, those were the days
    Much like the old days in the Navy. These days you'll rarely, if ever ,find an officer hanging out with the enlisted peeps. Unless it's a command function or Commanding Officer showing some love for his constituents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.
    Wine on the library lawn while zoning out on deckchairs . . . Ah, those were the days
    No croquet, Hatters? Or was that played on a different lawn? A very pleasant way to spend an hour or two on a warm and sunny afternoon.
    Last edited by Neverna; 06-12-2015 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Typo: played v payed

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    As folks above have noted, there has been a big change throughout society where management segregate themselves (mostly for the sake of power). This has always been the case to a certain extent, but changed somewhat during the babyboomer times where there was real optimism about social fairness, transparency, empowerment of the individual, etc. We are now very well back to dominant class systems and dominant social systems/management systems where the masses are disenfranchised from power mechanisms.

    At my Uni, we've had meetings every semester (career development meetings...) where they basically tell us not to mix with the students. A few folks (one guy got his anthropology PhD from University of California, so is much better qualified/educated than our managers who have online degrees in Educational Administration from noname Unis ) challenged this discourse, and it has been noticeable how their contracts have not been renewed this year. It's all about power, there simply is no interest in education or social development.
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Maybe your generation doesn't have a clue. When I was in college there would have been theme parties sending these rules up the flag pole, with a lot of the professors attending.
    Wine on the library lawn while zoning out on deckchairs . . . Ah, those were the days
    No croquet, Hatters? Or was that payed on a different lawn? A very pleasant way to spend an hour or two on a warm and sunny afternoon.

    UNSW (University of New South Wales) has a very nice lawn in front of the library . . . and while studying I was an Industrial Relations Law tutor and had a small cubby hole which contained two sun loungers . . . my parents had a very nice wine collection . . . and the rest is history.
    Sun cream, radio, wine and fresh air . . .

    Twas a good time

    (No croquet - that was at school! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    there simply is no interest in education or social development
    For sure, as the result of both leads to lower corporate bottom lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    (No croquet - that was at school! )


    How the other half lives eh.... very posh Hatters!

    We had mashed potato at our school served at just a shade above room temperature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    How the other half lives eh.... very posh Hatters!
    I did cricket, rugby, football at our oval and kayaking/canoeing in Rose Bay, just a minute away from school.

    Croquet is for wumps

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    We had mashed potato at our school served at just a shade above room temperature
    Luxury, pure luxury . . . We didn't have lunch at school, that must be for posh kids - had to bring to from home -


    (croquet - kroketten . . . yup! )

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/us...umes.html?_r=0

    In reference to the video i posted of the brat screaming at her professor for not banning certain halloween costumes.

    Well now he has decided to take a sabatical and hus wife who also teaches there has resigned.

    All this over pc nonsense about halloween costumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/us...umes.html?_r=0

    In reference to the video i posted of the brat screaming at her professor for not banning certain halloween costumes.

    Well now he has decided to take a sabatical and hus wife who also teaches there has resigned.

    All this over pc nonsense about halloween costumes.
    Cowardly of them.

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    ^ ths scales must have fallen off their eyes. But yes they should have stayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/us...umes.html?_r=0

    In reference to the video i posted of the brat screaming at her professor for not banning certain halloween costumes.

    Well now he has decided to take a sabatical and hus wife who also teaches there has resigned.

    All this over pc nonsense about halloween costumes.
    I was surprised to see the guy "debating" the issue with the girl/students outside like that. Surely a properly convened meeting would have been more appropriate.

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    ^ Imo the confrontation looked engineered by the students to me.

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    It could have been, but more fool the professor for not cutting it short and inviting the students to address the issue in a more appropriate environment.

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    ^ He could have handled it better with the benefit of hindsight, but he looked to me as he was forced into a corner and he decided to try and address the issue as fully and honestly as he could under the circumstances; nor does it mitigate for the behaviour of the students involved.

    I think he has woken up to the lunatic fringe who seem to be increasingly calling the shots at university campuses; this is all part and parcel of the aims of pc. Its got nothing to do with standards of politeness or tolerance, but about suppressing any alternative views or behaviours other than those deemed pc.

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    Another addition to the thread. Man gets suspended from university for 21 months and banned from getting credits at other educational institutions for making a joke in response to a #blackwomenmatter hashtag on something called yikyak, a supposedly anonymous chat app.

    Here's the joke: “They matter, they’re just not hot.”

    https://www.thefire.org/colorado-col...ke-on-yik-yak/

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    this is all part and parcel of the aims of pc. Its got nothing to do with standards of politeness or tolerance, but about suppressing any alternative views or behaviours other than those deemed pc.
    For sure there are attempts by some to make the narratives suit their views but it is not one sided by any means. Right wingers, left wingers, religious folks (some Christians, Muslims and Buddhists), Israelis, some courts (German and [possibly] French) and a great many politicians of all hues are among those (but not only those) who try to suppress alternative views or behaviours. "PC", however, seems to be a catch-all phrase aimed mainly at liberals by conservatives when liberals do something conservatives don't like.

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    ^ I think I have said before, the main victims of pc are those who hold moderate views.

    The topic is: PC Madness at Unis: Coddling of the American mind

    So it inevitably concentrates on this particular spectrum of nutjobs.

    Also you are making a general point, one that I don't necessarily disagree with, but it is not really relevant; nor does it contradict the fact that the goals and values of pc not those of tolerance or politeness, they are of suppression and oppression; that other political or religious spectrums share these characteristics or use the term pc denigrate liberals is neither here nor there; the very fact that they can speaks volumes about the lunacy inherent within it.

    This form of pc is in the ascendance at US universities, so is perfectly fair to concentrate focus on it.

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    So are you saying (or would you say) the liberals in American universities are winning the narrative war over the conservatives in American universities?

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    ^ I think the liberals have long dominated, but now it's a lunatic fringe that is emerging and starting to dominate and they are very ideological and authoritarian and brook no dissent. They are not liberal in the true sense. You are starting to see the true face of pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    You are starting to see the true face of pc.
    I'd disagree with that - you out it nicely prior tho this:

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    lunatic fringe

    There's nothing wrong with the theory of being 'pc' - which is a stupid term anyway. Being mindful of others isn't a negative, rather a mirror of society's maturity

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    You are starting to see the true face of pc.
    I'd disagree with that - you out it nicely prior tho this:

    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    lunatic fringe

    There's nothing wrong with the theory of being 'pc' - which is a stupid term anyway. Being mindful of others isn't a negative, rather a mirror of society's maturity


    But you don't practice what you preach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    There's nothing wrong with the theory of being 'pc' - which is a stupid term anyway.
    But when fear of causing offence to minorities, or offending the sensitivities of individuals, is taken to absurd levels, to the extent that reasonable exercise of free speech is censured and reasonable free expression is curtailed, it is not good for society.

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