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    They will find another job and/or go on unemployment.

    "Robotics" (automation) has been around for years and will continue to improve manfacturing and other enterprise efficiencies. Jobs will be lost in the process. Just the way introduction of new technology has always done.

    Had an aunt lost her job as a telephone switchboard operator when automated switching was installed. Robotics is here to stay so we will have to deal with the fallout as we have in the past when technologies have supplanted human labor.

    Sympathies to those who lose their jobs but change is inevitable. Adapt and move on or be left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Sympathies to those who lose their jobs but change is inevitable. Adapt and move on or be left behind.
    So true. Wise words.

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    the people who these machines are replacing are simply being thrown on the scrapheap !
    many have found, as i did, it is a case of retraining, stating from scratch in a new industry or go work at Macca's on minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    the people who these machines are replacing are simply being thrown on the scrapheap !
    many have found, as i did, it is a case of retraining, stating from scratch in a new industry or go work at Macca's on minimum wage.
    Big Mac and large fries please.

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    And AI (robots) are not just doing what they're told to do.

    The End of Work?

    By JI SHISANDEC. 10, 2015
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    Turning Point: An AI system teaches itself how to play and win video games without any programming.

    Welcome to the era of AI-human hybrid intelligence, where people and artificial intelligence systems work together seamlessly. Picture the scene from the 1986 movie “Aliens,” where Sigourney Weaver slips into a humanoid, semi-robotic weight-lifting unit to fight the alien queen — that’s about where we are today. (A number of companies around the world are developing versions of such devices for industrial and medical use, with some already on the market.)

    — The Associated Press is using Automated Insights’ software to produce thousands of articles about corporate earnings each year, freeing up staff for other reporting. Humans expand and polish a few of the most important articles.

    — IBM’s Watson is employed at some hospitals in the United States to determine the best course of treatment for individual cancer patients. Watson analyzes genetic information and the medical literature, and then provides suggestions to the doctors in charge.

    Humans supervise these AI programs and make the ultimate decisions, but white-collar workers are understandably starting to worry about the day when AI can go it alone.

    Don’t panic: Though the AI Revolution is underway, it is unlikely to eliminate many office jobs within the next five to 10 years. Current AI research and usage only targets specific tasks, like image recognition or data analysis, while most jobs require workers to draw on a broad range of skills.

    But I think it’s important to understand why the job market will change. There have been important advances in AI in recent years, especially in the area known as deep learning. Rather than telling a computer exactly how to do a task with step-by-step programming, researchers employing a deep learning system step back and let it apply techniques such as pattern recognition and trial and error to teach itself how — techniques humans use.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/op...work.html?_r=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart
    I am starting to think (as Marx stated)
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    I'm such a ruffian for not knowing....or....perhaps I'm just too aristocratic
    If you don't know what a proletarian is go back to Marx 101. Bloody lumpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munted View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart
    I am starting to think (as Marx stated)
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    I'm such a ruffian for not knowing....or....perhaps I'm just too aristocratic
    If you don't know what a proletarian is go back to Marx 101. Bloody lumpen.
    Where did you get this quote, Munted?

    The quotes under my name?

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    They are gaining momentum.

    There are now 260,000 robots working in U.S. factories

    Published: Feb 10, 2016

    There are now more than 260,000 robots working in U.S. factories. Orders and shipments for robots in North America set new records in 2015,
    according to industry trade group Robotic Industries Association. A total of 31,464 robots, valued at a combined $1.8 billion, were ordered from North American companies last year, marking a 14% increase in units and an 11% increase in value year-over-year. Shipments rose 10% over 2014 to 28,049 units. The biggest increase in robot orders came from buyers in the automotive, semiconductor and electronics industries, according to the trade group. The most popular jobs for these robots were industrial, including coating and dispensing, material handling and spot welding.

    There are now 260,000 robots working in U.S. factories - MarketWatch

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    It's all very well to have robots, but when everybody ids done out of a job, who is going to buy the products that the robots have made?

    It's a bit like how every man and his dog get things made in Asia these days...cheap throw away shite that is sold in Walmart etc. We as consumers have become cheap (And I'm no different)

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    The technology is developing.

    Would you bet against sex robots? AI 'could leave half of world unemployed'

    Scientist Moshe Vardi tells colleagues that change could come within 30 years, with few professions immune to effect of advanced artificial intelligence

    Machines could put more than half the world’s population out of a job in the next 30 years, according to a computer scientist who said on Saturday that artificial intelligence’s threat to the economy should not be understated.

    Would you bet against sex robots? AI 'could leave half of world unemployed' | Technology | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Possible....

    Threat from Artificial Intelligence not just Hollywood fantasy


    Oxford academic Dr Stuart Armstrong warns humanity runs the risk of creating super intelligent computers that eventually destroy us all

    ....An Oxford academic is warning that humanity runs the risk of creating super intelligent computers that eventually destroy us all, even when specifically instructed not to harm people.

    Dr Stuart Armstrong, of the Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford University, has predicted a future where machines run by artificial intelligence become so indispensable in human lives they eventually make us redundant and take over.

    Threat from Artificial Intelligence not just Hollywood fantasy - Telegraph
    This certainly has not gotten the attention it deserves. Once we make machines capable of learning and acting on their own, who knows what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    They will find another job and/or go on unemployment.

    "Robotics" (automation) has been around for years and will continue to improve manfacturing and other enterprise efficiencies. Jobs will be lost in the process. Just the way introduction of new technology has always done.

    Had an aunt lost her job as a telephone switchboard operator when automated switching was installed. Robotics is here to stay so we will have to deal with the fallout as we have in the past when technologies have supplanted human labor.

    Sympathies to those who lose their jobs but change is inevitable. Adapt and move on or be left behind.
    Technology advances on a log scale. With AI, not to mention quantum computing, coming there are no parallels to be drawn to the impact of previous 'revolutions'.

    The impact will be far beyond anything that happened previusly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    It's all very well to have robots, but when everybody ids done out of a job, who is going to buy the products that the robots have made?
    Which is why new economic models are being sought currently. Traditional capitalism will not work in the future.

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    If there are no jobs become a thief
    Simple

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    We've been to the Moon; dropped the A-bomb. This WILL be an ISSUE soon.

    This is plausible.


    Rogue 'Terminator' robots which can kill without human orders could become reality in just a few years


    Scientist Wendel Wallach calls for ethical committees to monitor research

    Yale University ethicist believes the machines should not go uncontrolled

    Need to keep technology 'a good servant, not a dangerous master'

    Sentiments echo warnings last year from Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk

    Hawking warned computers 'must have goals aligned with ours'

    Other leading scientists claim robots will soon do everything humans can

    Robots may pose a threat to global employment over next 30 years

    By SHARI MILLER FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 11:58 GMT, 14 February 2016 | UPDATED: 13:11 GMT, 14 February 2016


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz409v9wb7i
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart
    Robots may pose a threat to global employment over next 30 years
    The neo cons will love it: more human fodder for one of their Oil Wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobs View Post
    If there are no jobs become a thief
    Simple

    That's got to be a good job for a robot...

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    Could impact the Isaan economy?
    BBC - Future - The truth about sex robots

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    Humanoid robots to manufacture planes

    17 February 2016 By Jack Loughran

    Humanoid robots that can carry out difficult tasks during plane manufacturing are being developed by Airbus and the Joint Robotics laboratory.
    Using humanoids on aircraft assembly lines will make it possible to relieve human operators of the most laborious and dangerous tasks, thus allowing them to concentrate on more valuable tasks that cannot be carried out by machines.

    The four year project will attempt to research and develop solutions for a number of issues around using humanoid robots in manufacturing.

    One of the most prominent difficulties for these robots will be to work in a confined environment and move without colliding with the numerous surrounding objects.

    This is the first issue researchers will have to solve by developing new algorithms for the planning and control of precise movements.

    Humanoid robots to manufacture planes - E & T Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    This certainly has not gotten the attention it deserves. Once we make machines capable of learning and acting on their own, who knows what will happen.
    Think there is a reason for this, talk of job loses and changing economics, just smoke for the masses.

    Stock market traders, already use complex computer programs to forecast trends, first AI system comes on line, weeks, if not days, it would control the markets.
    End of capitalism as we know it, it learns, faster then we can imagine, in no time it wouldn't need to forecast future markets, but would control them.

    That's just a learning AI, no self awareness, goal orientated, self aware or some form of artificial conciseness, it may stop being a servant and become the master.

    Just me perhaps, but all this new world order stuff could be more then making billionaires richer.
    Change on a massive scale, is not just coming, it's started, don't think there is any options left, but hope, hope that we can have a place in the new world.

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    The robots are coming for jobs that pay $20 an hour or less, White House finds

    Published: Feb 22, 2016

    By STEVE GOLDSTEIN
    D.C. BUREAU CHIEF

    It’s intuitive that automation will take low-wage jobs.

    But the White House, in its annual economic report of the president, has broken down just how much that is so.

    There’s an 83% chance that automation will take a job with an hourly wage below $20, a 31% chance automation will take a job with an hourly wage between $20 and $40, and just a 4% chance automation will take a job with an hourly wage above $40.


    The White House used the same data that underlines other research in the field of labor and robots to arrive at the conclusion. Also read:Boston, D.C. are cities with jobs least likely to be taken away by robots

    The robots are coming for jobs that pay $20 an hour or less, White House finds - MarketWatch

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    The robots are coming for jobs that pay $20 an hour or less, White House finds - MarketWatch
    That's you out of work then Blackfart. Maybe you could re-train as a toaster mechanic.

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    Rise of the Machines: Keep an eye on AI, say experts

    A Google computer's stunning 3-0 victory in a Man-vs-Machine face-off over the ultimate board game highlights the need to keep Artificial Intelligence under human control, experts said Saturday.

    The partly self-taught AlphaGo programme's defeat of Go grandmaster Lee Se-Dol showed AI was progressing faster than widely thought, they said -- a highly symbolic moment in humanity's quest to create smart machines.

    And while AI plays a key role in building a better, safer world, some fear the fast pace of development could finally leave humans outwitted by our own inventions.


    AlphaGo's triumph "shows that the methods we do have are even more powerful than we first thought," said AI expert Stuart Russell of the University of California's Berkeley Electrical Engineering & Computer Sciences department.

    "The fact that AI methods are progressing much faster than expected makes the question of the long-term outcome more urgent," he told AFP by email.


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    This technology is changing faster than we know of.


    Man builds 'Scarlett Johansson' robot from scratch to 'fulfil childhood dream' - and it's scarily lifelike

    1 APR 2016
    BY KARA O'NEILL
    Ricky Ma has dreamed of designing a humanoid since he was little after becoming obsessed with robots and animation

    A humanoid obsessive has built an incredibly realistic female robot from scratch - and it's got more than a passing resemblance to Avengers star Scarlett Johansson.

    Ricky Ma, a 42-year-old product and graphic designer, has spent more than $50,000 (34,000) and a year and a half creating the female robot prototype, Mark 1.

    The designer confirmed the scarily lifelike humanoid had been modelled on a Hollywood star, but wanted to keep her name under wraps.


    It responds to a set of programmed verbal commands spoken into a microphone and has moving facial expressions, but Ricky says creating it wasn't easy.

    Read more: Makers of sex robot with virtual vagina swamped with orders


    He said he was not aware of anyone else in Hong Kong building humanoid robots as a hobby and that few in the city understood his ambition.





    Man builds 'Scarlett Johansson' robot from scratch to 'fulfil childhood dream' - and it's scarily lifelike - Mirror Online

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    This is getting more weird. Swearing robots.


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    We all know how the Japanese are into robots and robots as maids and stuff. Here's a high school student. This robot student speaks Japanese and English. EFL robot teachers next?

    World first: Japanese robot enrolls in high school
    Published time: 13 Apr, 2016

    Hannah McKay

    A high school in Japan is about to receive a new student, and his name is Pepper. He's likely to stand out among his classmates, however, because Pepper is actually a humanoid robot. It marks the first time a robot will study alongside human students.

    “I never thought that I would be accepted into a human school,” the robot said upon hearing of his successful enrollment at Hisashi High School in Waseda, Fukushima Prefecture. He also promised to “try my best,” TASS reported.

    Pepper comes to the school with an impressive array of language skills, speaking both Japanese and English. He will mostly take part in English classes, though the school has told Pepper than he can also visit other classes and activities.


    Teachers believe learning alongside Pepper will be a positive experience for students, encouraging their desire to learn new information.

    Developed by Japanese corporation SoftBank Robotics, Pepper is intended to be primarily used for customer service in banks and shops. In March, the Pepper robot's customer service etiquette was put to the test at a cellphone store in Tokyo's Omotesando shopping district.

    However, his abilities go far beyond retail and customer service.

    Pepper is equipped with camera and sensors, which allow him to identify human emotions. In response, he can comfort his master or laugh when a joke is told. He also has the ability to teach himself.

    But although Pepper has a range of capabilities, SoftBank has made it clear that those who buy the robot will not be able to become intimate with it, forcing them to sign a document promising to keep their relationship G-Rated.

    And while Pepper is seemingly protected from any kind of sexual advances, he seemingly isn't exempt from physical abuse. A man in Japan was arrested for attacking a Pepper robot in a drunken rage in September.

    As Pepper embarks on his newest adventure, his fans can only hope that he won't encounter any similar bullies in the halls of his high school.

    The Japanese government is actively encouraging the introduction of robots, hoping that Japan will lead the world in robot production. Tokyo has offered subsidies to companies willing to employ the unconventional workers.

    https://www.rt.com/news/339480-japan...pepper-school/

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