Thread: 2016 Republican US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

He never said it wasn't either. He's just throwing about unsubstantiated figures. And that's the point, he does that sort of thing a lot.

That's because he's pandering to the vacuous bigmouths who love his big numbers and boastful rhetoric.
That it is empty rhetoric is beyond the grasp of these buffoons.

^^ Its misrepresentation - he says he has heard figures as high as 42% and he has, how is that lying? He has not pulled the number out of his ass, but it is not accurate I agree (though imo underemployment is also real), but the more important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

Originally Posted by longway

important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

I've heard about the government distorting unemployment records since I can remember, under many different governments. Nothing new about it being claimed now.

Originally Posted by longway

^^ Its misrepresentation - he says he has heard figures as high as 42% and he has, how is that lying? He has not pulled the number out of his ass, but it is not accurate I agree (though imo underemployment is also real), but the more important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

I have heard that up to 99.99% of people who think that Trump speaks the truth have a chemical imbalance in their brains. Mind I'm not saying that they do, just that is what I have heard...

... See what I did there?

Anyway he must have been pulling the numbers from somewhere because none of the figures he mentioned are even remotely close to being accurate. And, again, that's just one example: he peddles a lot of mis/half-truths, distortions, and outright fabrications.

The guy's a birther for petesake. Logic and truth aren't exactly his strong points.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by longway

important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

I've heard about the government distorting unemployment records since I can remember, under many different governments. Nothing new about it being claimed now.

So he is not wrong then. I am just looking at a link I was provided its not me who injected this into the conversation.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by longway

^^ Its misrepresentation - he says he has heard figures as high as 42% and he has, how is that lying? He has not pulled the number out of his ass, but it is not accurate I agree (though imo underemployment is also real), but the more important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

I have heard that up to 99.99% of people who think that Trump speaks the truth have a chemical imbalance in their brains. Mind I'm not saying that they do, just that is what I have heard...

... See what I did there?

Anyway he must have been pulling the numbers from somewhere because none of the figures he mentioned are even remotely close to being accurate. And, again, that's just one example: he peddles a lot of mis/half-truths, distortions, and outright fabrications.

The guy's a birther for petesake. Logic and truth aren't exactly his strong points.

Read your own link before blathering to me.

He also says some things that are very profoundly true. I mentioned 3: illegal immigrants, TPP, and the Iraq Libya situation. any comment on those?

And he has a point about Shillary she has no place commenting on the birther movement unless she acknowledges its her own supporters who started it and she released pics of Obama emphasising his foreignness.

Originally Posted by longway

So he is not wrong then. I am just looking at a link I was provided its not me who injected this into the conversation.

It is actually.

You said that you like the guy because what he says is the truth. I pointed out that that's objectively not the case: you're the one that focused on and ran with the employment figures.

Originally Posted by longway

Read your own link before blathering to me.

He also says some things that have are very profoundly true. I mentioned 3: illegal immigrants, TPP, and the Iraq Libya situation. any comment on those?

I have read the link, you're the one who hasn't. Clearly, because yet again I need to point out it was links, plural, not just the one. So you've cheerypicked one example from the two you bothered reading of a single link.

What he has said about illegals is categorically not true. I've no idea what he said about TPP or Iraq/Libya, what was it?

He's just another politician coming out with what he thinks people want to hear.

He's had no compunction about employing illegals in the past (although I believe he did have some compunction about paying them).

Originally Posted by longway

And he has a point about Shillary she has no place commenting on the birther movement unless she acknowledges its her own supporters who started it and she released pics of Obama emphasising his foreignness.

I have re-read this several times and it still doesn't make sense

Originally Posted by longway

but the more important issue of the possibility of the government distorting reported unemployment figures has substance.

yes - with the full co-operation of financial institutions world wide who use numbers like that for strategy - its a conspiracy

idiot

Originally Posted by longway

and she released pics of Obama emphasising his foreignness.

yes - he is black

Originally Posted by baldrick

he is black

Ahh... but, for the sake of correctness... he is "half" black.

Chris Crisco who is currently at zero in the polls thinks Obama should leave office early. Desperate, fat and clueless.

Christie: Obama 'should leave office early'

Originally Posted by Humbert

Chris Crisco who is currently at zero in the polls thinks Obama should leave office early. Desperate, fat and clueless.

Christie: Obama 'should leave office early'

Desperate, fat, clueless, and going back to New Jersey with his tail between his legs in a month or two.

A key argument against taking Donald Trump's candidacy seriously is evaporating
Maxwell Tani (mtani@businessinsider.com) Oct 12th 2015 5:05AM

Donald Trump's continued dominance of the Republican presidential field has confounded many top pollsters and analysts since he soared to the top of the field in July.

And a new poll shows that Trump may not be finished surprising them yet.

A CBS poll released on Sunday found Trump largely in the same position he has been in most major polls in the last several months: on top.

The real-estate mogul again led the pack, with 27% of likely Republican primary voters picking him as their preferred nominee as of today.

That placed Trump ahead of his closest competitors — retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who garnered 21% in Sunday's poll, and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who placed third with 9%.

But though some experts may dismiss the findings as another non-predictive, still-early poll, another result lent credence against such an argument.

According to CBS, 42% of voters surveyed reported paying "a lot" of attention to the presidential race, compared to 36% who reported paying a lot of attention last month. CBS reported that the percentage is notably higher than in the past two election cycles.

2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Shillary and the Trumpenfuherer are practically neck and neck at 44% each. My bet still looking good.

^ you desperation is showing.

How so?

^ his personal attacks on me for simply starting a fact.

Sept 22 it was 47% 43% in shil's favour.

His chart is interesting, but having Jeb as 3rd most likely make me doubt its usefulness.

Originally Posted by longway

^ his personal attacks on me for simply starting a fact.

Sept 22 it was 47% 43% in shil's favour.

His chart is interesting, but having Jeb as 3rd most likely make me doubt its usefulness.

Perhaps you need to stick to one poll.

They are all different, e.g.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-3824.html

El Trumpo on the slide....

Miami (CNN)Donald Trump on Friday knocked Ben Carson as weak on trade and immigration as he reacted to two new polls showing Carson overtaking the real estate mogul for first place in Iowa.

Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper that he was "really surprised" to see his fortunes dipping in Iowa and said he is going to need "to work a little bit harder in Iowa" to win back support in the first-in-the-nation caucus state. Two polls released Thursday and Friday showed Trump slipping to second place in Iowa with 20% and 19% of support, respectively, while Carson surged to first place with 28% in both polls.

^ Got a laugh out of his Twitter reaction to his slide, "Too much Monsanto corn creates issues with the brain."

Then he blames an intern for the insult directed at Iowans.

Donald Trump Blames Intern For Controversial Retweet About Monsanto - Fortune