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    Jordan Edwards shooting: Texas police change account of death



    A Texas police department has changed a key detail in the shooting of an unarmed black teenager, amid mounting calls for the officer to be arrested.

    Jordan Edwards, 15, died after an officer fired a rifle into a car that was driving away from a house party in the Dallas suburb of Balch Springs.

    Police initially said the car reversed "aggressively" towards the officer, but footage discredits that claim.

    Police Chief Jonathan Haber said he "misspoke".

    The officer, who has not been identified, has been with the Balch Spring Police Department for six years.

    He fired into a car full of teenagers as they left a party on Saturday night, Chief Haber said after reviewing the body-cam video.

    The car was actually driving forward - away from police - and not reversing toward them when the shots were fired, he explained.

    "I was unintentionally incorrect yesterday when I said that the victim's vehicle was backing down the road," Mr Haber said on Monday.

    "In fact, according to the video that I viewed, the vehicle was moving forward as the officers approached."

    The officer's behaviour "did not meet our core values", the police chief said, adding that he has been placed on administrative leave.

    Jordan, who was in the front passenger seat, died after being shot in the back of the head.

    His 16-year-old brother and three friends were detained at the scene and taken to the Dallas County Sheriff's Department, where they were interviewed as witnesses.

    Jordan's cause of death has been ruled a homicide, however, that does not necessarily mean charges will be filed against the officer.

    The Dallas County Sheriff's Department and the Dallas County District Attorney's Office are conducting a criminal investigation.

    The incident occurred on Saturday night when police responded to reports of underage drinking at a house party where around 100 kids had gathered, neighbours said.

    Officers were inside the home trying to find the owner when they heard outside what they believed to be gunshots, causing panic at the home as people fled.

    After going outside, the police officer fired several shots which killed Jordan, a first-year American football player at Mesquite High School.

    His coach, Jeff Fleener, told the Dallas Morning News that he was "crushed and heartbroken" to learn that Jordan had been killed.

    "You create a checklist of everything you would want in a player, a son, a teammate, a friend, and Jordan had all that. He was that kid," he said.

    A vigil was held at the school on Monday evening, and the school district said they are "mourning this terrible loss".

    Lee Merritt, lawyer for Jordan's family, demanded the officer's arrest on Monday.

    "We are declaring war on bad policing," he said as Jordan's parents sat silently beside him, wiping their eyes with tissues and gazing downwards.

    "America throughout the country must figure out a way to police its citizens without killing them," he continued.

    Jordan Edwards shooting: Texas police change account of death - BBC News

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    This is an interesting stat. I'm putting it here because the murder data is almost always based on shootings.


    MURDERS IN US VERY CONCENTRATED: 54% OF US COUNTIES IN 2014 HAD ZERO MURDERS, 2% OF COUNTIES HAVE 51% OF THE MURDERS



    When you look at individual counties with a high number of murders, you find large areas with few murders. Take Los Angeles County, with 526 murders in 2014, the most of any county in the US. The county has virtually no murders in the northwestern part of the county. There was only one murder each in Beverly Hills, Hawthorne, and Van Nuys. Clearly, different parts of the county face very different risks of murder.



    Washington, DC has large areas without murders. 14th Street NW divides the eastern and western parts of the district, with murders overwhelmingly limited to the eastern half. The area around the capitol is also extremely safe.





    Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders - Crime Prevention Research CenterCrime Prevention Research Center

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    ^^ Jordan Edwards and his friends had no weapons or alcohol.

    Now we get to see how Trump will handle police reform.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...dwards/525141/

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^ Jordan Edwards and his friends had no weapons or alcohol.

    Now we get to see how Trump will handle police reform.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...dwards/525141/
    It was definitely unjustified and I would call it murder (although I'm no legal expert.)

    As for police reform it's not about the President. It's on many levels.

    It's kind of like Trump care and the Wall - he cannot just say "do it" and it will get done.

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    Yeah, ok.

    The Trump administration now might reverse Obama-era police reforms

    A new memo by the Trump administration makes it official: The US Department of Justice is putting police reform on hold.

    The March 31 memo, published by the Washington Post, instructs Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s top two deputies to “immediately review” reform agreements — known as “consent decrees” — reached with police departments across the country after Justice Department investigations found that these departments routinely violated their residents’ civil rights. The memo argues that the review is necessary to, among other things, ensure public safety comes first and to “help promote officer safety, officer morale, and public respect for their work.”

    In short, Justice Department deals that enforced reforms — from revised use of force policies to greater emphasis on “community policing” — at police agencies are under review to ensure Sessions and President Donald Trump’s own agenda on policing issues is represented in them.

    More. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...consent-decree

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    misspoke
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
    unintentionally incorrect
    Now, now Mr Haber let's call a spade a spade. You lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Yeah, ok.

    The Trump administration now might reverse Obama-era police reforms

    A new memo by the Trump administration makes it official: The US Department of Justice is putting police reform on hold.

    The March 31 memo, published by the Washington Post, instructs Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s top two deputies to “immediately review” reform agreements — known as “consent decrees” — reached with police departments across the country after Justice Department investigations found that these departments routinely violated their residents’ civil rights. The memo argues that the review is necessary to, among other things, ensure public safety comes first and to “help promote officer safety, officer morale, and public respect for their work.”

    In short, Justice Department deals that enforced reforms — from revised use of force policies to greater emphasis on “community policing” — at police agencies are under review to ensure Sessions and President Donald Trump’s own agenda on policing issues is represented in them.

    More. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...consent-decree
    Those reforms only increased crime in poor areas, police were told to be re active and only respond to crime, not to be pro active.

    In short cops were told to stay in their cars and respond to crimes committed, not to go looking for drug dealers or street gangs.

    Murders and shooting shot up because the baddies were no longer searched for guns or drugs.
    Can't remember which city it was, but in one area nearly all stop searches were on blacks, racial targeting allegedly, but only 2 percent of the population were white.
    Cops stopped doing street searches as there was a racial quota imposed, gang bangers could carry guns, safe in the knowledge they wouldn't get stopped.

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    [QUOTE=jamescollister;3524152]
    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    gang bangers could carry guns, safe in the knowledge they wouldn't get stopped.
    And so they should. It's their human right.
    Why should they be racially profiled?

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    Who needs terrorists when you can get a nutjob with a gun far cheaper?

    There's even a video of the nutjob in question in the link.

    Still, I'm sure a quick prayer to the baby jebus will make things alright.



    Eight dead in Mississippi shooting rampage
    Therese Apel, The (Jackson, Miss.) Clarion-Ledger Published 9:44 a.m. ET May 28, 2017 | Updated 31 minutes ago

    JACKSON, Miss. — A Mississippi man was taken into custody Sunday after a shooting rampage that left eight people dead, including a sheriff's deputy, authorities said.

    The shootings occurred at three homes Saturday night in rural Lincoln County, about 70 miles south of Jackson. As authorities took suspect Cory Godbolt to the ground, he said he had been shot by someone inside one of the homes. One was in Bogue Chitto, an unincorporated community of about 500 people.

    A handcuffed Godbolt told the The Clarion-Ledger, in a brief conversation caught on video, that he went on the shooting spree because he loved his wife and children and he loves Bogue Chitto.

    Godbolt, 35, said he had gone to a residence in Bogue Chitto to talk about his children. At some point neighbors called police, and the deputy soon arrived on the scene.

    “I was having a conversation with her stepdaddy and her mama and my wife about me taking my children home,” Godbolt said as he sat on the road waiting to be transported by ambulance. “Somebody called the officer, people that didn’t even live at the house. That’s what they do, they intervene.

    "It cost him his life. I'm sorry."

    Godbolt said he did not expect to be captured, but that he "ran out of bullets."

    "Death... Suicide by cop was my intention," he said. "I ain't fit to live. Not after what I've done."

    Godbolt was treated at the scene for a gunshot wound, then transported to a local hospital.

    The violence erupted at about 11:30 p.m. Saturday with a domestic call in Bogue Chitto, according to a news release from state Bureau of Investigation spokesman Warren Strain. The bodies of three women and Deputy William Durr, 36, were recovered there. The bodies of two juvenile males were then found at a crime scene in Brookhaven, Strain said.

    A male and a female were also found at another Brookhaven home, Strain said. None of the victim's names was immediately released except Durr, a two-year veteran of the Lincoln County Sheriff’s Department and a four- year veteran of the Brookhaven Police Department.

    Lincoln County has a population of about 34,000. The county seat, Brookhaven, has about 14,000 people; Bogue Chitto is about 10 miles south of Brookhaven.

    Gov. Phil Bryant and his wife issued a statement of condolence for the victims, particularly the deputy.

    "I ask all Mississippians to join Deborah and me in praying for those lost in Lincoln County," Bryant said. "Every day, the men and women who wear the badge make some measure of sacrifice to protect and serve their communities. Too often, we lose one of our finest. I thank the law enforcement agencies involved for their hard work.

    "May the peace of the Almighty wash over those hurting after this senseless tragedy."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/102260448/

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    Only eight dead so not worth commenting on.

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    And the shooter is black and a white cop didnt kill him, only wounded, so it will be OK.

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    And it was OK because the good guys had guns and the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a....... Oh.

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    Give them all guns and everyone will be safer......Right.

    Teen Accidentally Kills 19-Year-Old Girlfriend With Gun He Received As Graduation Gift

    A Tennessee teen accidentally killed his girlfriend with a gun he’d just received as a graduation gift, according to reports.



    The Shelby County Sheriff’s Office said Brennan Fields, 18, was playing with the gun when it accidentally went off and struck his 19-year-old girlfriend, Lucinda Luna, in the stomach on Thursday night.



    Fields was seated in a chair and Luna was lying on a couch across from him when the gun went off, according to WFTV.

    Luna was rushed to the hospital where she was later pronounced dead.
    “By all indications, there was no intent for this to happen,” Shelby County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Earle Farrell told WMC.


    Kara Stubblefield, a childhood friend of Luna, said Fields was an experienced gun owner who regularly went to a shooting range, according to the NYDailyNews.


    "This is going to hurt real bad for him,” Stubblefield said. “Like he's not going to get over this for a long time. I am just worried about Brennan really and her parents too.”


    The gun was a gift to Fields from Luna’s father, according to reports.
    Police called the incident a “terrible tragedy.”


    Fields is not expected to face charges, according to reports.
    No charges so its OK if you shoot someone by accident.

    Teen Accidentally Kills 19-Year-Old Girlfriend With Gun He Received As Graduation Gift

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding
    No charges so its OK if you shoot someone by accident.
    Why wouldn't it be?

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    He obviously wasn't versed in the first rule of hunters safety. Never point a gun at a loaded person. Or something like that. So it's Lunas dads fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker
    He obviously wasn't versed in the first rule of hunters safety. Never point a gun at a loaded person. Or something like that. So it's Lunas dads fault.
    My must it be anyones fault? It was a legitimate accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    It was a legitimate accident
    Brennan Fields, 18, was playing with the gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    It was a legitimate accident
    Brennan Fields, 18, was playing with the gun
    So it would make you guys feel better to incarcerate the kid over an accidental death?

    What if it said he was "handling" the gun or "cleaning" instead of the buzzword "playing"?

    It was an accident ffs.

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    Sad for the girl who lost her life and for the boy that has to live with that for the rest of his.

    Their are toy guns but guns are not toys. I recall a kid in a store that had a toy gun and subsequently he was shot by police. Real training is needed before handing anyone a gun. Toy or not. Life is no video game, unfortunately no do overs. Unfortunately the courts will have to decide his fate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    It was an accident ffs
    Dropping/spilling a cup of hot coffee on your crotch is an accident.

    Playing with a deadly weapon, having it discharge, and shooting someone isn't. It's stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Playing with a deadly weapon, having it discharge, and shooting someone isn't. It's stupidity.
    Seems more tragic than stupid.

    Still an accident, no matter how you personally feel about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    Seems more tragic than stupid.
    Oh it's tragic alright, but it's also plenty stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    Still an accident, no matter how you personally feel about it.
    My personal feelings, eh.

    Reversing your car into the mail box is an accident.

    Running over someone and killing them because you were speeding isn't.

    *Plays with gun*... *Bang!*... 'Oh oops, I appear to have accidentally shot and killed you, accidents happen! Soz!'. Also not an accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Also not an accident.
    Ok then, just arrest him for murder. Incarcerate for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    Ok then, just arrest him for murder. Incarcerate for life.
    Oh hello non-sequitur, how are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Also not an accident.
    Ok then, just arrest him for murder. Incarcerate for life.
    You really aren't very good at this debating stuff, are you?

    How about Negligent Homicide?

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