The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[AntRobertson]

Annnnnnnd the ranting old drunk is back with his conflated and sophomoric navel-gazing...

[harrybarracuda]

I do not think banning gun ownership is the right answer though. Psychologically challenged people will always manifest destructive behavior, and he/she will self destruct or harm others, whether he/she is carrying a gun or a knife. The gun is just another instrument.

The problem is that guns are designed to kill, and in the case of assault weapons, kill quickly.

It's a stupid argument to say that you shouldn't take guns away from lunatics because they can kill someone with a knife.

[harrybarracuda]

Firearms are just a symtom of the glaring problem..

Yes. American men with tiny dicks.

[Door Knob]

A guitar is an instrument. A gun is designed to do one thing and one thing only and they're pretty focking effective at it.

A very narrow minded view, which completely ignores the human cultural flaw which accepts murder and mayhem.

Address the roots of human culture and address the problem.

Firearms are just a symtom of the glaring problem..

Goes deeper than culture, although good culture can help tremendously. At the end of the day we've barely been out of the jungle for 200,000 years. Not even a drop in the evolutionary bucket. Civilisation is less than 10,000 years old. We're basically wild animals with a thin layer of civility smeared on top. A cocktail of religious pipe dreams, societal delusions and technology in particular help create a bubble of reality that makes us believe we're somehow above the animals, when in reality we're just barely civilised apes.

And I think it's pretty important to see the reality of humanity for what it really is. Not just think about it intellectually, but REALLY see. Just monkeys wearing clothes, walking around, using all this high technology, created by less than 1% of the population. So advanced to most of the rest that it might as well be magic. So of course all these monkeys are gonna love guns. Guns make you feel powerful. They hit you at a very primitive level and create euphoria.

[GracelessFawn]

I do not think banning gun ownership is the right answer though. Psychologically challenged people will always manifest destructive behavior, and he/she will self destruct or harm others, whether he/she is carrying a gun or a knife. The gun is just another instrument.

The problem is that guns are designed to kill, and in the case of assault weapons, kill quickly.

It's a stupid argument to say that you shouldn't take guns away from lunatics because they can kill someone with a knife.

Yeah, surrender those guns! Pretty soon they'll be demanding you to surrender your toothpicks and nail clippers! And they won't stop there. They'll be banning use of chlorine also! Chlorine if sprayed in the air can seriously cause damage also.....

My point is... Regulate and evaluate gun owners
psychological profile on a more regular basis. Don't just issue it to anyone who wants it.

I do not remember campaigning for assault weapons, so pls stop putting words in my mouth.

[GracelessFawn]

I do not think banning gun ownership is the right answer though. Psychologically challenged people will always manifest destructive behavior, and he/she will self destruct or harm others, whether he/she is carrying a gun or a knife. The gun is just another instrument.

The problem is that guns are designed to kill, and in the case of assault weapons, kill quickly.

It's a stupid argument to say that you shouldn't take guns away from lunatics because they can kill someone with a knife.

Yeah, surrender those guns! Pretty soon they'll be demanding you to surrender your toothpicks and nail clippers! And they won't stop there. They'll be banning use of chlorine also! Chlorine if sprayed in the air can seriously cause damage also.....

My point is... regulate and evaluate gun owners
psychological profile on a more regular basis. Don't just issue it to anyone who wants it.

I do not remember campaigning for assault weapons, so pls stop putting words in my mouth.

Guns are designed to defend innocent lives or in times of war defend one's territory and/or one's beliefs. And sometimes the best form of defence is to get rid of the person trying to hurt you or your family.

Before guns were invented people use swords, spears, etc. Who are we to say that killing with a knife is better than killing with a gun, when in fact the intent to kill is one and the same.

[slackula]

Guns are designed to defend innocent lives or in times of war defend one's territory and/or one's beliefs.

Good luck with your Glock 9mm fleshlight when an MRAP comes knocking on your door.

Do you seriously think that the most powerful military machine in history can be stopped by a bunch of rednecks playing dress-up?

Continue irrigating your fields with Brawndo and everything will be just fine and dandy...

[Troy]

My point is... regulate and evaluate gun owners psychological profile on a more regular basis. Don't just issue it to anyone who wants it.

The problem is that people tend to be emotional and those emotions tend to cause irrational behaviour. Irrational behaviour with a tool at hand that is designed specifically to kill is just a little bit dangerous.

'Familiarity breeds contempt' and Americans are over-familiar with firearms causing them to be just a little bit careless, as this thread has shown all too often.

[harrybarracuda]

I do not remember campaigning for assault weapons, so pls stop putting words in my mouth.

I did not say you did, so stop being a fucking diva.

[harrybarracuda]

Before guns were invented people use swords, spears, etc. Who are we to say that killing with a knife is better than killing with a gun, when in fact the intent to kill is one and the same.

You haven't really grasped what the "mass" in "mass shooting" means, have you?

Added: I thought I'd show you with some really simple examples:

Lone knife attacker:

The FBI is investigating a mass stabbing in Minnesota as a “potential act of terrorism”, the special agent in charge said on Sunday, the day after a man walked into a shopping mall and injured nine people before being shot dead in a dramatic confrontation with an off-duty police officer.

Eventual death toll: ZERO


Lone Assault Rifle attacker:

ORLANDO — A gunman who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State opened fire inside a crowded gay bar and dance club here early Sunday, leaving 49 people dead and 53 injured in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, authorities said.

President Obama labeled the rampage “an act of terror and an act of hate.” The gunman fired bullets seemingly at random inside the popular Pulse nightclub, forcing panicked patrons to dive onto the dance floor, crawl across the ground and scramble out a back entrance. He then held others hostage in a three-hour siege that ended when police stormed the building and killed him.

Eventual death toll: FIFTY


Do you understand now?

[Seekingasylum]

This multi-nick Fawn fucker is who exactly?

[harrybarracuda]

This multi-nick Fawn fucker is who exactly?

Fuck knows but SSDD.

[GracelessFawn]

Yeah, I perfectly understand what you're saying Harrybarracuda. Get rid of the guns! Prepare to defend yourselves, and your loved ones with your limpy dicks!!! It's the only way!

Now, expect a long line of terrorists, sickos, wackos, and criminals surrendering their guns!

Perfect scenario.

[GracelessFawn]

Its just me asylumseeker!

[MrG]

Yeah, I perfectly understand what you're saying Harrybarracuda. Get rid of the guns! Prepare to defend yourselves, and your loved ones with your limpy dicks!!! It's the only way!

That's not what he said.
You really don't read. Or is it comprehend?

[GracelessFawn]

Jeezee!!! Can't you even crack a joke or laugh at one?

[AntRobertson]

Yeah, I perfectly understand what you're saying Harrybarracuda. Get rid of the guns! Prepare to defend yourselves, and your loved ones with your limpy dicks!!! It's the only way!

Now, expect a long line of terrorists, sickos, wackos, and criminals surrendering their guns!

Perfect scenario.

...you're not a consultant to the NRA by any chance are you?

Incidentally, a gun(s) kept in the home for self defence are more likely to result in the death of one or more of the occupants - either intentionally or through misadventure - than they are to prevent a burglary/robbery/home invasion.

[GracelessFawn]

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"With the way technology is today, I'm sure companies could easily develop guns that only respond to registered fingerprints. This could eliminate chances of kids having accidents with guns."

Thought we had a fix for guns going off accidentally already.

[AntRobertson]

Well with 265 accidental shootings involving children last year alone and American children 16 times more likely to be unintentionally killed by a gun compared with similar countries that would be a resounding 'no'.

[harrybarracuda]

Yeah, I perfectly understand what you're saying Harrybarracuda. Get rid of the guns! Prepare to defend yourselves, and your loved ones with your limpy dicks!!! It's the only way!

Now, expect a long line of terrorists, sickos, wackos, and criminals surrendering their guns!

Perfect scenario.

You clearly don't understand what I'm saying, because I didn't say get rid of guns. I said stop terrorists and loonies getting guns, and stop anyone getting AR15s and the like.

Try reading slowly, you might actually fucking understand then.

[hallelujah]

This multi-nick Fawn fucker is who exactly?

Tuck your tits in, you fat Pattaya nonce.

[wasabi]

Just for the record, Willy has confirmed that Fawn is not a multinic But a long term member on here, much longer than the multi nicks who are being abusive towards our golden member.

[GracelessFawn]

I agree with your point HarryB. Terrorists and criminals shouldn't have access to guns or automatic weapons, but banning gun ownership would hardly solve the problem. More often than not, these shady characters acquire their weapons from other criminals, from the streets or from the black market. They rarely buy them through legal means.

[GracelessFawn]

My point is... regulate and evaluate gun owners psychological profile on a more regular basis. Don't just issue it to anyone who wants it.

The problem is that people tend to be emotional and those emotions tend to cause irrational behaviour. Irrational behaviour with a tool at hand that is designed specifically to kill is just a little bit dangerous.

'Familiarity breeds contempt' and Americans are over-familiar with firearms causing them to be just a little bit careless, as this thread has shown all too often.

Being emotional is normal, but acting irrational because of emotions manifests a mental problem.

[MrG]

My point is... regulate and evaluate gun owners psychological profile on a more regular basis. Don't just issue it to anyone who wants it.

The problem is that people tend to be emotional and those emotions tend to cause irrational behaviour. Irrational behaviour with a tool at hand that is designed specifically to kill is just a little bit dangerous.

'Familiarity breeds contempt' and Americans are over-familiar with firearms causing them to be just a little bit careless, as this thread has shown all too often.

Being emotional is normal, but acting irrational because of emotions manifests a mental problem.

No it doesn't. It is an indication that the person is a normal human being, as opposed to a twat blowhard.