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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
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    You do realize it takes a two thirds majority of states to amend the constitution.
    Yes. And your point is?
    But, dod you also realise, Humbert, the fission theory proposes that the Moon was once part of the Earth and somehow separated from the Earth early in the history of the solar system. The present Pacific Ocean basin is the most popular site for the part of the Earth from which the Moon came.

    Also has nothing to do with the point you made but then PETER is a bit confused

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    America's Top Killing Machine


    For the better part of a century, the machine most likely to kill an American has been the automobile.
    Car crashes killed 33,561 people in 2012, the most recent year for which data is available, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Firearms killed 32,251 people in the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control has data.
    But this year gun deaths are expected to surpass car deaths. That's according to a Center for American Progress report, which cites CDC data that shows guns will kill more Americans under 25 than cars in 2015. Already more than a quarter of the teenagers—15 years old and up—who die of injuries in the United States are killed in gun-related incidents, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

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    Throughout the Millenia, the Ages of Man, the eternal cause of death has been dying.
    Therefore an American has a God given right to carry a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    America's Top Killing Machine


    For the better part of a century, the machine most likely to kill an American has been the automobile.
    Car crashes killed 33,561 people in 2012, the most recent year for which data is available, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Firearms killed 32,251 people in the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control has data.
    But this year gun deaths are expected to surpass car deaths. That's according to a Center for American Progress report, which cites CDC data that shows guns will kill more Americans under 25 than cars in 2015. Already more than a quarter of the teenagers—15 years old and up—who die of injuries in the United States are killed in gun-related incidents, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
    And your point is....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    But, dod you also realise, Humbert, the fission theory proposes that the Moon was once part of the Earth and somehow separated from the Earth early in the history of the solar system. The present Pacific Ocean basin is the most popular site for the part of the Earth from which the Moon came.
    Yes, I thought of that but since superfical skin pustules are a result of flea bites I left it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    America's Top Killing Machine


    For the better part of a century, the machine most likely to kill an American has been the automobile.
    Car crashes killed 33,561 people in 2012, the most recent year for which data is available, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Firearms killed 32,251 people in the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control has data.
    But this year gun deaths are expected to surpass car deaths. That's according to a Center for American Progress report, which cites CDC data that shows guns will kill more Americans under 25 than cars in 2015. Already more than a quarter of the teenagers—15 years old and up—who die of injuries in the United States are killed in gun-related incidents, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
    And that is with it highly regulated.

    So what would the death toll be if there were no controls whatsoever?

    Or did you not think it through?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    But this year gun deaths are expected to surpass car deaths. That's according to a Center for American Progress report, which cites CDC data that shows guns will kill more Americans under 25 than cars in 2015. Already more than a quarter of the teenagers—15 years old and up—who die of injuries in the United States are killed in gun-related incidents, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    And your point is....?
    Several, I say.
    Firstly the gun-morons have always put forward the number of car-related deaths as a 'na-na-na-na-na' cars kill more people 'argument' to lessen the gravity of gun-related deaths . . .
    Secondly, as harry mentioned, cars are highly regulated . . . you need to get a license, pass the tests etc.... to even get a license
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Yes, I thought of that but since superfical skin pustules are a result of flea bites I left it out.
    Much appreciated, who know who the inclusion could have confused

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    Dad Calls Cops On Son To Teach Him A Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead



    James Comstock just wanted to let his son know that taking his truck without asking was serious business.

    He wanted to give his son a good “scare” so he called the police, to ask them to talk some sense into him, and let him know that he could get in real trouble for doing somethinglike that.

    “He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him. It was over a damn pack of cigarettes. I wouldn’t buy him none, and I lose my son for that” Comstock said.

    That “damn pack of cigarettes” led to 19-year-old Tyler taking his dad’s truck and running off.

    James knew his son needed to understand that there are consequences to one’s actions. He figured the police would help him teach his son a “lesson.”

    But teaching Tyler a “lesson” ended up with the teen being shot dead on the nearby Iowa State University campus.

    Now, Tyler’s family wants to know why the police were so quick to fire on an unarmed teenager?

    James said that the truck belonged to a lawn care company that he works for. He couldn’t just have his son running off with that vehicle, as it could get him in trouble.

    He explained all of this to the 911 dispatcher, letting them know that Tyler hadn’t “stolen” the vehicle in a traditional sense, but he needed to understand that he could not “borrow” the vehicle without permission.

    The truck came to a stop when officers pulled him over. He was never driving the vehicle towards them. In fact, the officers never even tried to make such a claim.

    Instead, they admit that they opened fire when Tyler failed to turn off the vehicle.

    Officer McPherson fired six rounds hitting the teen through the glass, according to the Iowa state medical examiner.

    James reaffirmed to The Des Moines Register that he told the dispatcher his son was definitely unarmed.

    Tyler’s step-grandfather, Gary Shepley, 65, insisters that “hard tough questions” have to be asked by the community now, regarding the police use of force, especially against teenagers and those who they can clearly tell are unarmed.

    “So he didn’t shut the damn truck off, so let’s fire six rounds at him? We’re confused, and we don’t understand. They’re professionals. They’re trained to handle these situations. And if they panic before they even know what’s going on, then ask yourself: What if it was your child?” he asked.
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    Now, Tyler’s family wants to know why the police were so quick to fire on an unarmed teenager?
    Cause it's the US where cops must assume every suspect carries, because any teen can purchase handguns legally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You do realize it takes a two thirds majority of states to amend the constitution.
    Yes. And your point is?
    My point is, it will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post

    James Comstock just wanted to let his son know that taking his truck without asking was serious business.

    He wanted to give his son a good “scare” so he called the police, to ask them to talk some sense into him, and let him know that he could get in real trouble for doing something like that.

    The truck came to a stop when officers pulled him over. He was never driving the vehicle towards them. In fact, the officers never even tried to make such a claim.

    Instead, they admit that they opened fire when Tyler failed to turn off the vehicle.

    Officer McPherson fired six rounds hitting the teen through the glass, according to the Iowa state medical examiner.
    Meanwhile... back on track

    How you gonna defend those cops huh Boon?
    Perhaps if the kid had been armed he could have averted the tragedy eh..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Would the right wing actually accept the fact that women can have abortions and men can marry each other, if they were allowed to keep their guns?

    Would the left wing accept that?
    Dunno

    Best to ask one of them members of the TDMA, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Would the right wing actually accept the fact that women can have abortions and men can marry each other, if they were allowed to keep their guns?

    Would the left wing accept that?
    Conservatives will not have to make that decision, they will only have to keep fighting against the intrusive restrictions on what kind of guns they can keep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Conservatives will not have to make that decision, they will only have to keep fighting against the intrusive restrictions
    . . . on a woman's right to choose

    Well done.

    Boom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Conservatives will not have to make that decision, they will only have to keep fighting against the intrusive restrictions on what kind of guns they can keep.
    But you don't limit it to that, do you? You keep trying to dig your little piggy noses into everybody elses lives. I asked you a serious question. Would it be acceptable to you, if you could keep your guns, to allow abortions and gay marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Best to ask one of them members of the TDMA, eh?
    Same question to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    Boom!
    Same question to you, as you are the antithesis to our regular right wing nut jobs. Compartmentalizing everything into a neat little box to justify your own one sided opinions.

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    Why buy them off?

    Public opinion will win over in the end, it's working fine so far.


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    Modern america (we'ell, certain parts):-

    Pedro da Killer was pulled over in the hood with seven assault rifles, three grenades, nine automatic pistols and a flamethrower. He is being held on remand because his car registration had expired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    Same question to you, as you are the antithesis to our regular right wing nut jobs.
    How do you seem me as being anything 'right wing', even an irregular right wing nutjob?

    Take some salts, pickel.

    Ok, I'll break it down it down for you:

    peters believes it is his moral right to decide for himself what he can and cannot do.

    Oddly enough, he doesn't believe women can decide what they can and cannot do, in matters of abortion, and he has the (moral) right to decide for them.

    The quandary here is that he believes in individuals' rights . . . until he disagrees with them.

    Boom!

    This is 'compartmentalised'?

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    I haven't seen this old chestnut rolled out yet.

    "Guns Don’t Kill People, People Do?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    They were placed there by the President, and approved by the congress, which does not represent the wishes of the entire population,
    This is what I mean by you changing the goalposts whenever it suits your diatribe.

    So, what is democracy to you, peters? Is it when 100% of the population agrees on something?

    As it sounds each and every time you write some whining drivel you are fine with 'democratic' decisions when they suit YOU, but you aren't when they don'.

    That's your version of democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    In the latests decisions the SCOTUS went be on there job, which is to interpret the constitution.
    English, ffs. Or is this another example of where everyone is supposed to know what you mean when you write gibberish?


    It's simple, peters - you either believe in the democratic process your country has and touts as the bets in the world or you don't.

    You like it and think it's the best thing since sliced bread when it follows your beliefs and you think it is un-democratic and the devil's sawn when it doesn't.

    Re-read this and tell me you aren't six years old:

    does not represent the wishes of the entire population

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    How do you seem me as being anything 'right wing', even an irregular right wing nutjob?
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    I did - many times. It ambiguous wording. I found the emphasis to be on 'regular', meaning the opposite to the regular right-wing nutjobs . . . resulting in 'irregular' right wing nutjob
    I assumed you were smart enough to know what "antithesis" means. Guess I was wrong.

    My point was that you (presuming you have now looked up what antithesis means), and your political polar opposites are both part of the problem. You have no desire to compromise or be bi-partisan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    They were placed there by the President, and approved by the congress, which does not represent the wishes of the entire population,
    This is what I mean by you changing the goalposts whenever it suits your diatribe.

    So, what is democracy to you, peters? Is it when 100% of the population agrees on something?

    As it sounds each and every time you write some whining drivel you are fine with 'democratic' decisions when they suit YOU, but you aren't when they don'.

    That's your version of democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    In the latests decisions the SCOTUS went be on there job, which is to interpret the constitution.
    English, ffs. Or is this another example of where everyone is supposed to know what you mean when you write gibberish?


    It's simple, peters - you either believe in the democratic process your country has and touts as the bets in the world or you don't.

    You like it and think it's the best thing since sliced bread when it follows your beliefs and you think it is un-democratic and the devil's sawn when it doesn't.

    Re-read this and tell me you aren't six years old:

    does not represent the wishes of the entire population


    First I do not feel I have to agree with every decision made through a democratic process, in America it is ok to voice your disagreement with your govt.. Agreeing with a decision of the Supreme Court has nothing to do with my belief in our democratic system.

    What gibberish and what is so hard to understand when I say I believe the SCOTUS went beyond there job. Maybe I can make it simple so even you can understand, there job description as written in .the constitution.

    Does not represent the wishes of the entire population, are you daft all of the American people are not represented by the Supreme Court decisions, you are going to start seeing things happen as a result of these decisions that will adversely effect some people in the US, so be it the court has spoken but in know way will this begin to close the device in America.
    Last edited by RPETER65; 01-07-2015 at 09:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    I assumed you were smart enough to know what "antithesis" means. Guess I was wrong.
    I'm quite aware of what antithesis means - perhaps you could write a bit more succinctly next time to avoid ambiguity. I thought you were smart enough to do that but I was wrong, it seems.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    You have no desire to compromise or be bi-partisan.
    Yet again you are quite wrong, as well as being presumptuous. I am guess you know that those words mean - please feel free to look them up.

    Please tell me why I should alter my stance on a woman's right to make decisions regarding abortion within the legally-mandated time just because some religio-nut thinks God forbids killing . . . unless killing means the state murdering its citizens.

    Guns, what this thread is about (kind of) - sure, ban all handguns and automatic and semi-automatic rifles.

    Hunting? Sure, why not. Own a gun and have it housed at a secure facility so you can pick it up on your way to shoot deer . . . or rabbits . . . or whatever animal you intend on having for dinner.

    That is a compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    First I do not feel I have to agree with every decision made through a democratic process
    No-one says you do. What you must do, however, is accept that it is the basis of a democracy . . . not what 100% of the people think is right

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Agreeing with a decision of the Supreme Court has nothing to do with my belief in our democratic system.
    Agreeing does not. Accepting it does because they judges are appointed by the people's choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    What gibberish and what is so hard to understand
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    This:
    In the latests decisions the SCOTUS went be on there job, which is to interpret the constitution.
    and this:
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    but in know way will this begin to close the device in America
    What the heck are you trying to say?

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    Look on the bright side the more that get shot the less of them there will be.

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    Quite sad, but what the heck . . . eh?

    At least 1 American child is shot every hour - report


    A recent research estimates over 10,000 under-18s were shot in the US in 2009 - at least one third died. While infants are mostly injured due to firearms mishaps, teenagers are most often victims of criminal armed assaults.

    A study by John Leventhal MD and his team from the Yale School of Medicine, published in the journal Pediatrics, utilizes statistics from the Kids’ Inpatient Database (KID), on children hospitalized in the US with gunshots in 2009, the latest statistics available.

    The data is not complete, as the national database on hospitalization of minors published in 2011 covers all but six states of the US, yet still covers 96 percent of the US population.

    The facts are sobering. There were 7,391 hospitalizations of children and adolescents (89 percent of them males) with gunshots in 2009 (in 2008 there were from 6,496 such hospitalizations). Of those 453 (6 percent) died in hospitals.

    Though it was not the subject of research, the research also mentions that approximately additional 3,000 children die from gun injuries at the scene or were pronounced DOA on arrival at the hospital in 2009.

    Overall calculations reveal over 28 kids getting shot in America on a daily basis. One third of them die.
    At least 1 American child is shot every hour - report ? RT USA


    Problem? There is no problem . . . what is needed is more guns so these children can defend themselves

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