Thread: The Confederate Flag

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Along with Gone with the Wind we can expect our Overloards to remove all Lynyrd Skynyrd music from circulation?
Watch them while you're allowed

I guess we're on the proverbial 'slippery slope' you keep warning us about. Time to hide under the bed before someone takes away your Oak Ridge Boys CD's.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Time to hide under the bed

Can't . . . the 'Reds' are already there.

Damn, the world is a scary place for some

Originally Posted by Black Heart

the flag represents values of the rural South including courage, family and good times.

More like racism, meth labs & inbreeding.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Black Heart

the flag represents values of the rural South including courage, family and good times.

More like racism, meth labs & inbreeding.

You should know about that living right next to Cambodia, eh?

^ fcuk me

booners made a real funny

Credit where credit os due . . . BM did a funny.

^ this may be an undercover method of separation

if they get fat enough they will just drop off

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media. I also notice that some non-Americans have given their opinions on this flag that was flown briefly over a 4 years period 150 years ago.

As for the education and unemployment noted in the article, some of this is the responsibility of these individuals. Not blacks, but as individuals. Look at the Asian and Indians and how they view education and raise their kids (in general).

US | Sat Jun 27, 2015

For many black Americans, Confederate flag debate a distraction

LOS ANGELES | BY TIM REID

As calls grow to remove the Confederate flag from public spaces across America's South, Vanessa White says she questions whether that would mark real progress for black Americans like her.

The 57-year-old Compton, California construction worker has seen and endured too much, she says, to be excited. Over the years, five members of her family have been killed by guns: her two brothers, at the ages of 28 and 38; her nephew, at 19; her niece, at 16; and her niece's mother, at 28. All of them had dropped out of school in their teens.

"We never felt like we were allowed near normal life," said White, speaking from the tidy, two-story home she purchased last year in the struggling suburb south of Los Angeles.

Across the country, African Americans are applauding a fast-growing movement to remove the Confederate flag from public life after last week's racially charged massacre of nine black worshipers in a Charleston church. But even many of those who support the effort suspect it will do little to address what they see as fundamental racial injustices - from mass incarceration of black men to a lack of economic and educational opportunities.

White’s view, she says, was shaped by exposure to racism as a child and also by a family she describes as dysfunctional. Her single mother was an alcoholic, and her brothers began committing crimes at an early age. She says she grew up never feeling like a real person because of her race.

"One day, when I was 16,” she recalls, “these little white kids chased after me screaming ‘nigger, get out of here!' I never forgot that."

In South Los Angeles, where police last year shot and killed Ezell Ford, a 25-year-old unarmed black man, residents interviewed by Reuters said that while they welcomed the prospect of the Civil War-era flag finally being purged from public grounds, they did not see its removal as a watershed moment for race in America.

"Black folks are still being killed; they are still being undereducated; they still have little access to health care," said Melina Abdullah, an attorney who has helped organize community response to Ford's killing. Taking down the Confederate flag, she says, will not solve "institutional racism and a police system that kills black people."

Streams of statistics underscore those concerns: the average white family had about seven times the wealth of the average black family in 2013, according to the Urban Institute, a public policy think tank in Washington. Since the early 1970s, black unemployment has been consistently more than twice as high as white joblessness, government data show. And more than 27 percent of blacks live below the poverty line, compared to 13 percent of whites.

“LARGER STRUGGLE”

Both Abdullah and White see far more intractable problems facing African-Americans than the Confederate flag, including a justice system with an incarceration rate six times higher for black men and a high rate of gun violence in many neighborhoods. In the United States, blacks are more than twice as likely to die from gunshots as whites, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“We can't have this debate over the flag blind people to the larger struggle,” said Abdullah.

Still, for many African Americans.....

Entire: For many black Americans, Confederate flag debate a distraction | Reuters

Originally Posted by Black Heart

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media

How do you know where people have lived?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Black Heart

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media

How do you know where people have lived?

If the shoe fits wear it.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Black Heart

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media

How do you know where people have lived?

If the shoe fits wear it.

'OL Bert was stationed in Atlanta for 8 long years and hated every minute of it mingling with the rubes and rednecks down there...

^I lived in Cincinnati for 7 years before that. I got transferred to Atlanta. Truthfully, Cincinnati has a hell of a lot more bigots and rednecks than Atlanta proper. Cincinnati is across the river from Kentucky and a lot of people hold the same right wing politics. You're hero Robert Mapplethorpe was infamously banned in Cinncinnati.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Did someone say 'obesity'???



There were only 11 conferderate states:
State Seceded from Union Readmitted to Union
1. South Carolina Dec. 20, 1860 July 9, 1868
2. Mississippi Jan. 9, 1861 Feb. 23, 1870
3. Florida Jan. 10, 1861 June 25, 1868
4. Alabama Jan. 11, 1861 July 13, 1868
5. Georgia Jan. 19, 1861 July 15, 18702
6. Louisiana Jan. 26, 1861 July 9, 1868
7. Texas March 2, 1861 March 30, 1870
8. Virginia April 17, 1861 Jan. 26, 1870
9. Arkansas May 6, 1861 June 22, 1868
10. North Carolina May 20, 1861 July 4, 1868
11. Tennessee June 8, 1861 July 24, 1866

If my math is correct, 6 of the 11 make the list of 10 fattest states in the 16th fattest country in the world (as of 2013 and defined as prevalence of obesity ages 20 years and older).

These fatties are mostly black.

Are you making fun of blacks?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Black Heart

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media

How do you know where people have lived?

How?

Because I'm friends with them.

I know where they are from.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

These fatties are mostly black.

Are you making fun of blacks?

You sound fat. Put down the fork lard-arse.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Along with Gone with the Wind we can expect our Overloards to remove all Lynyrd Skynyrd music from circulation?
Watch them while you're allowed

I guess we're on the proverbial 'slippery slope' you keep warning us about. Time to hide under the bed before someone takes away your Oak Ridge Boys CD's.

Can't ban Colonel Angus

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Black Heart

No surprise here. I notice how many Americans who are not from the South nor have never lived there have given opinions on forums and the media

How do you know where people have lived?

How?

Because I'm friends with them.

I know where they are from.

Name 120,000 of them.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

How?
Because I'm friends with them.
I know where they are from.

BS. Name some of them.

Y'know, looking at the fractious politics and attitood's emanating from and associated with the south, maybe it would have been better if the Confederates had won. Then they could fly their backwards flag all they wanted in their own backwards country.

True, but having one third world country at the US' backyard should be enough

Originally Posted by panama hat

True, but having one third world country at the US' backyard should be enough

C'mon, Canada isn't that bad.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Black Heart

How?
Because I'm friends with them.
I know where they are from.

BS. Name some of them.

Friends in real life - expats and 'merkins back home.

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by panama hat

True, but having one third world country at the US' backyard should be enough

C'mon, Canada isn't that bad.

Slackula! Formerly/recently QC?