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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^ Nonsense.

    There is very little logic in suicide.

    The fact that the pilot performed complex manoeuvres to get over the Bay of Bengal instead of heading to the closest deep water to ditch, the China Sea, dismisses the suicide theory, just to start with.

    Saving face by disappearing? That's laughable.
    The China sea at the moment is probably the most patrolled and radar drenched water on the planet. It would have been identified immediately, and probably would have had chicom fighters on it.

    Much more plausible than Dr Evil stealing it and taking it to his secret base in the dormant volcano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Just to flesh out other references and an earlier post by Koojo re. this topic.

    Re. the two SEALs found dead of respiratory collapse in this saga,...were they part of the SEAL team that "lifted" Bin Laden? How many of them are still alive?

    (For the confused, GRU = Russian;...MSS = Chinese)

    Malaysia Airlines Mystery Deepens After Top Disease Experts Rushed To Indian Ocean

    A grim report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is stating today that within 24-hours of this aircrafts “diversion” to the highly secretive Indian Ocean US military base located on the Diego Garcia atoll, no less than four flights, within the past week, containing top American and Chinese disease scientists and experts have, likewise, been flown to there.

    According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft“disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.

    As we had previously noted in our report “Russia “Puzzled” Over Malaysia Airlines “Capture” By US Navy,” the GRU had previously notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of its suspicions regarding this flight due its containing a “highly suspicious” cargo that had been offloaded in the Republic of Seychelles from the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.

    First arousing the GRU’s concerns regarding this “highly suspicious” cargo, this report continues, was that after its unloading from the MV Maersk Alabama on 17 February, its then transfer to Seychelles International Airport where it was loaded on an Emirates flight bound for Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia, after first stopping over in Dubai, the two highly trained US Navy SEALS who were guarding it were found dead.

    The two US Navy SEALS protecting this “highly suspicious” cargo, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances” aboard the MV Maersk Alabama, this report says, further raising Russian intelligence suspicions as they were both employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.


    Upon Flight 370’s departure from Malaysia on 8 March, this report continues, the GRU was notified by the MSS that they were going to divert it from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).


    Prior to this planes entering into People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, however, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.

    In a confirmation of the GRU’s assertion that Flight 370 was, indeed, flown to Diego Garcia, this report says, satellite transmission data analyzed by US investigators showed that this planes most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1,609 kilometers (1,000 miles) west of Perth, Australia in the Indian Ocean..

    Most troubling to the GRU about Flight 370’s “diversion” to Diego Garcia, this report says, was that it was “nearly immediately” followed by some of the top disease scientists and experts from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDCP) embarking to Diego Garcia on at least four flights.

    As to why both American and Chinese disease experts were taken to Diego Garcia where Flight 370 is now known to be, this report says, has as yet not been answered by either of these governments after repeated Foreign Ministry requests for “explanations and clarification.”

    What is to be known, this report says, is that as Malaysia has been forced to admit Flight 370 was, indeed, “diverted” from its flight path as the GRU had previously reported, and as at least 25 nations are now involved in searching for it, it remains a mystery as to what is actually occurring.

    Also known, this report concludes, is that Diego Garcia as a designated ETOPS emergency landing site for flight planning purposes of commercial airliners transversing the Indian Ocean, and as one of 33 emergency landing sites worldwide for the NASA Space Shuttle, it is “inconceivable” that any type of aircraft, let alone Flight 370, can fly anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere without being tracked, monitored and recorded in totality.

    Malaysia Airlines Mystery Deepens After Top Disease Experts Rushed To Indian Ocean | The Total Collapse
    Oh give it a rest ENT, we don't want another fecking tinfoil hat thread.

    There is no such report except in the minds of the a-hole that writes that blog and idiots like you that swallow it hook, line and sinker.

    Why don't you post their other "exclusives"?:

    The Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) is reporting today that the “highly suspicious” cargo retrieved by the US from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that had been “disappeared” to one of the United States most secretive bases in the Indian Ocean, Diego Garcia, was flown this past week to the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico where it was then destroyed in a “massive fireball.”
    A shocking new report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the Ministry of Defense circulating in the Kremlin today is advising all Ministries to “prepare for doomsday” as fears grow about the Western worlds response to the expected collapse of the global banking system later this month that Edward Snowden documents have revealed is a “staged event” the Obama regime has been secretly planning and refers to as “The Grand Cardinal Cross Crisis.”
    You are deranged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Nothing in that article mentions a conspiracy of any sort.
    Are you on medication?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
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    It's been reported several times that the communications equipment were intentionally switched off one by one
    .... well that's what people in locations thousands of miles away from the aeroplane are telling us from data sent by electronic systems which may or may not have been failing. If the technology is that good perhaps they will be kind enough to tell us where the plane went.
    Exactly, how many times does it have to be said there is no concrete evidence of anything? Among the theories of several experts at odds with each other is the plane might not have been able to generate enough power for the equipment to work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post

    It's been reported several times that the communications equipment were intentionally switched off one by one
    .... well that's what people in locations thousands of miles away from the aeroplane are telling us from data sent by electronic systems which may or may not have been failing. If the technology is that good perhaps they will be kind enough to tell us where the plane went.
    Exactly, how many times does it have to be said there is no concrete evidence of anything? Among the theories of several experts at odds with each other is the plane might not have been able to generate enough power for the equipment to work!
    We tend to overrate technology quite a bit these days. Somehow it's supposed to tell us everything; and solve all our problems, when in reality it's just a box of tools than can get some jobs done, but not all jobs. The data provided by the satellite guys has pointed the search in a particular direction, but the very same guys who figured this "arc" out also point out that this approach has never been used before.

    It's quite a brilliant trick, and if they eventually find the plane anywhere in the predicted area it will be quite a coup for those engineers ...The almost total lack of data from other sources has placed it front and center.

    The lack of hard evidence or data has at least given all the vivid imaginations on TD an opportunity to get some exercise.....

    So far I'm really liking the Dr. Evil and the dormant volcano base idea, but ENT is on fire and probably good for another fifty pages or so.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^ Nonsense.

    There is very little logic in suicide.

    The fact that the pilot performed complex manoeuvres to get over the Bay of Bengal instead of heading to the closest deep water to ditch, the China Sea, dismisses the suicide theory, just to start with.

    Saving face by disappearing? That's laughable.
    The China sea at the moment is probably the most patrolled and radar drenched water on the planet. It would have been identified immediately, and probably would have had chicom fighters on it.
    .
    So what?

    Anyway, why would he worry if Chinks shot him down? No karma,....they did it,,,,guilt free!! Wow.

    A suicide pilot wouldn't have performed such a complex flight just to top himself.

    Hiding the evidence of such a purported act wouldn't be top priority for a suicidist, he'd be concentrating on the justification of his imminent demise.

    This guy, though, was concentrating on evading radar and possibly getting shot down, he was planning on going somewhere,....and not to a watery grave, either.

    No sign of a desire to die in those actions!
    He was on a mission, and so far, the evidence doesn't point to a suicide mission.



    IF it was the pilot in control.


    The theory that MH 370 was hijacked remotely is plausible, given the bizarre behaviour of the aircraft after its last call to Malaysian air traffic controllers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    There is little doubt this was anything other than a deliberate act to redirect the aircraft and cover its tracks. Logic dictates that would rule out pilot suicide or mass murder by deliberately crashing the plane or flying it for hours under the radar only to ditch in a remote area of southern ocean. It was flown to a different destination or was attempting to do so. By whom and for what reason baldrick and his Martian boyfriend can only guess
    There's the crux of it. SOMETHING fishy went down. The only question is what.

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    bizarre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    It's been reported several times that the communications equipment were intentionally switched off one by one
    How did they turn off the smartphones that can be tracked by GPS without the terrestrial network? There were some business people and scientists aboard who need to be reachable even were there is no net, probably a couple of satellite phones as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    It's been reported several times that the communications equipment were intentionally switched off one by one
    How did they turn off the smartphones that can be tracked by GPS without the terrestrial network? There were some business people and scientists aboard who need to be reachable even were there is no net, probably a couple of satellite phones as well.

    Phones receive gps signals, they don't emit them. To be tracked they need to be on a network, the network connects to the phone and gives you the gps coordinates the phone is receiving. (Well maybe in the DDR they did)

    Satellite phones are a rarity, expensive and only used only by people who travel to remote locations, scientists working in factories wouldn't be prime subscribers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    The Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) is reporting today that the “highly suspicious” cargo retrieved by the US from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that had been “disappeared” to one of the United States most secretive bases in the Indian Ocean, Diego Garcia, was flown this past week to the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico where it was then destroyed in a “massive fireball.”
    A shocking new report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the Ministry of Defense circulating in the Kremlin today is advising all Ministries to “prepare for doomsday” as fears grow about the Western worlds response to the expected collapse of the global banking system later this month that Edward Snowden documents have revealed is a “staged event” the Obama regime has been secretly planning and refers to as “The Grand Cardinal Cross Crisis.”
    You are deranged.
    You post the quotes and say I'm deranged?

    Go back to bed harry.

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    I reckon it won't be too long before they find the plane. You just don't hear those ping signals randomly in the ocean. These are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them...it can't be from anything else.

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    ^^^ Sat phones sell for between $600 > $1,200

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^^ Sat phones sell for between $600 > $1,200
    And service charges compared to 3/4g?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    The Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) is reporting today that the “highly suspicious” cargo retrieved by the US from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that had been “disappeared” to one of the United States most secretive bases in the Indian Ocean, Diego Garcia, was flown this past week to the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico where it was then destroyed in a “massive fireball.”
    A shocking new report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) of the Ministry of Defense circulating in the Kremlin today is advising all Ministries to “prepare for doomsday” as fears grow about the Western worlds response to the expected collapse of the global banking system later this month that Edward Snowden documents have revealed is a “staged event” the Obama regime has been secretly planning and refers to as “The Grand Cardinal Cross Crisis.”
    You are deranged.
    You post the quotes and say I'm deranged?

    Go back to bed harry.
    Posting the quotes from the site YOU are using as a source, you mental case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    There were some business people and scientists aboard who need to be reachable even were there is no net, probably a couple of satellite phones as well.
    How do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    You just don't hear those ping signals randomly in the ocean.These are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them...it can't be from anything else.
    Quote Originally Posted by David Mearns
    "You just don't hear these signals randomly in the ocean. And these are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them, it can't be from anything else,"
    http://www.xxx.xxx.xx/news/2014-04-1...mearns/5392440

    or it could be intelligent deep sea mermaids luring the sailors to their deaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^^ Sat phones sell for between $600 > $1,200
    And service charges compared to 3/4g?
    Wouldn't make them a rarity

    At 15 cents to $2 a minute doesn't make them prohibitive.

    Scientists out in the field, from archaeologists to geologists use them as well as radio as there's no cell phone coverage in many parts of SE Asia.
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    the mermaids would have found the sat on phones when conducting the cavity searches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    I reckon it won't be too long before they find the plane. You just don't hear those ping signals randomly in the ocean. These are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them...it can't be from anything else.
    No pings for over 72 hours now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You are deranged.
    You post the quotes and say I'm deranged?

    Go back to bed harry.[/QUOTE]



    Posting the quotes from the site YOU are using as a source, you mental case.[/QUOTE].... (Sez harry)


    You cherry-picked them, you posted them.

    This is just your usual style of refutation,...shoot the messenger, the last resort of an imbecile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post

    or it could be intelligent deep sea mermaids luring the sailors to their deaths
    OT but...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    No pings for over 72 hours now.
    Yeah....they've given up on the ping locators now, but have the general area figured out and are putting down the submersibles for visual search only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post

    Satellite phones are a rarity, expensive and only used only by people who travel to remote locations, scientists working in factories wouldn't be prime subscribers.
    I once used a phone on a Singapore Airlines flight (the ones attached to the seat arm), are they not satellite phones?

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