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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Betting I will never no the truth in my life time. Jim
    well jimmy me lad , 5 baht says they find it where they are looking now - where the uniform pulses that they are hearing are coming from

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    ^ naughty wee Chuchok

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    The esteemed newspaper "The Sun" ran a story today that the Soviets tracked the plane landing in Afghanistan and the Chinese scientists are wisked into Pakistan.
    Imagine that , Chinese and Pakistani scientists working together.

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    Various water layer temperature changes, fluid pressure changes due to motion from currents at different depths, ambient noises, the shape and makeup of the sea floor near the source (could act like a parabolic reflector), and how the transmitter lies (buried deep under debris, earth, etc.)... all these factors can have an effect on how far the signal can be detected.

    TSP - temperature, salinity and pressure affect the sound. There are "channels" at various depths, at various places, at various times in the ocean that conduct sound - or block it from listening devices at the wrong depth.

    In other words : It could be "valving"

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    So, therte's no more mention of Diego Garcia or Pine Gap being involved with MH 370's diosappearance, eh?

    Well, how about this one;

    Diego Garcia cancelled all flights to or from the base, for 72 hours from the 8th - 10th March 2014, inclusive.




    If this US base was involved in the disappearance of MH 370, the 72 hours closure of airspace around that base would have given ample time for MH 370 to land, offload passengers and cargo, refuel and continue to "another place" to be disposed of, modified or otherwise.

    Why would Diego Garcia close its civilian serving facilities, unless something of higher priority was on the menu, such as an incoming/outgoing craft with a sensitive cargo?

    Those 72 hours give a nice space in time to receive, clear up and dispose of anything in the South Indian Ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
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    such as an incoming/outgoing craft with a sensitive cargo?
    my chinese source with the pakistani mother working in russia informed me that this closure is to allow the alien spacecraft to land , give cartman an anal probe ,and take off
    You could be right. Someone who posted this on my wall said it was being deleted all over the internet.

    So it must be true, cos the Interweb said so.


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    So, everyone is in hiding on Copacabana Beach or watching some races at Estoril?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    It doesn't say cancelled, it says there are none.
    At Diego Garcia, when "there are none" (flights) = ALL flights cancelled.

    Certainly not the normal state of affairs there.


    Then there's this;




    What d'ya reckon that means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    It doesn't say cancelled, it says there are none.
    At Diego Garcia, when "there are none" (flights) = ALL flights cancelled.

    Certainly not the normal state of affairs there.


    Then there's this;




    What d'ya reckon that means?
    It means someone is making pretty looking part web pages.
    I really hope they find it otherwise this shit's never going away.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    ^ Then why would they be spending so much time and money searching the Indian Ocean? By the way who says the plane didn't have enough fuel? The plane had enough to reach Bejing and was 5 hours away when it disappeared off radar.
    Allegedly the Malaysians.

    Nice maps here, with fuel range.

    Map: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
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    ^ Then why would they be spending so much time and money searching the Indian Ocean? By the way who says the plane didn't have enough fuel? The plane had enough to reach Bejing and was 5 hours away when it disappeared off radar.
    Allegedly the Malaysians.

    Nice maps here, with fuel range.

    Map: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
    So it seems they're searching in the right place, right at the limit of its range where it would have run out of fuel and gone down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
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    ^ Then why would they be spending so much time and money searching the Indian Ocean? By the way who says the plane didn't have enough fuel? The plane had enough to reach Bejing and was 5 hours away when it disappeared off radar.
    Allegedly the Malaysians.

    Nice maps here, with fuel range.

    Map: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
    So it seems they're searching in the right place, right at the limit of its range where it would have run out of fuel and gone down.
    Would have been the logical place to start, within fuel range, not 3 or 4,000 KM S/W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
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    ^ Then why would they be spending so much time and money searching the Indian Ocean? By the way who says the plane didn't have enough fuel? The plane had enough to reach Bejing and was 5 hours away when it disappeared off radar.
    Allegedly the Malaysians.

    Nice maps here, with fuel range.

    Map: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
    So it seems they're searching in the right place, right at the limit of its range where it would have run out of fuel and gone down.
    Would have been the logical place to start, within fuel range, not 3 or 4,000 KM S/W.
    Yes but a week ago the recalculated the fuel and made new assumptions, they are now searching where they should have been all along.
    But who would think to look in the opposite direction to which the aircraft was flying.
    Who would have thought it would turn around, fly over the country it came from and, in my opinion, try to make it to Australia.
    Maybe the Aussies shot it down, it being full of potential illegal immigrants and all.
    I'm pretty sure that's what happened, at least that's what my sources inside the RAAF are saying.
    They ordered it back and when it didn't turn back they shot it down.

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    Makes some sense.

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    I doubt it.

    If they shot it down they would say so.

    And we normally don't have fighters in WA

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    Malaysia plane MH370: Possible new signal in search



    A plane searching for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has detected a possible new underwater signal, Australian officials say.

    An Australian P-3 Orion aircraft picked up the signal in the same area where an Australian vessel detected audio pings earlier this week, officials said.

    The signal would require further analysis, but could have been from a "man-made source", officials said.

    Flight MH370 vanished on 8 March, with 239 people on board

    BBC News - Malaysia plane MH370: Possible new signal in search

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Makes some sense.
    Only if you wear a tin hat. The aussies, shooting down an airliner filled with passangers ? Maybe if it was directly over Sidney and heading in on a dive, but in any other scenario? No chance.

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    "Makes some sense" = the bit about flying to Oz, given the direction it was heading (supposedly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    But who would think to look in the opposite direction to which the aircraft was flying.
    Who would have thought it would ...... try to make it to Australia.


    Basing Infrastructure Considerations in the Defence of Australia's Indian Ocean Approaches

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    My money is still on this being a terrorist incident, but beyond that don't ask me how they did it or why the passengers/crew were unable to contact anyone. They would want the crash to take place in the deepest water possible, however, to prevent investigators establishing how it was done.

    I am very suspicious of flight MHo66, the Airbus A330 that lost power from its primary generator en route to South Korea shortly after flight 370 went AWOL. It is a considerable co-incidence.

    If some group has found a way to interfere with their fleet and is extorting money the airline isn't going to be telling anyone about it.
    I see fish. They are everywhere. They don't know they are fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge
    My money is still on this being a terrorist incident, but beyond that don't ask me how they did it or why the passengers/crew were unable to contact anyone. They would want the crash to take place in the deepest water possible, however, to prevent investigators establishing how it was done.
    The only reason I'd disagree with this scenario is that terrorists would announce their 'heroic' emasculation of western society . . . and if they were Muslim terrorists then they wouldn't have taken a MAS flight full of fellow Muslims

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    ^ Agreed, more and more this looks like an act of sabotage but as I always say there is nothing conclusive as yet.

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    ^

    Most of the passengers were non-Muslim and, anyway, the guys who flew into the WTC weren't bothered there would be Muslims among the victims. What if the object is purely financial extortion and the terrorists are not even Muslim? Where an organization is possibly demanding money from either the airline or the Malaysian government there is every likelihood that neither would be telling the world about it.

    It may be that they had a very stark choice. Agree to cough up immediately or watch a second plane vanish off the radar.

    The problem I have with sabotage is the same one I have with the suicide theory...surely the world would have been given a motive by now, either by the saboteurs or the pilot as he was about to die.
    Last edited by Thormaturge; 11-04-2014 at 01:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge
    the suicide theory
    I thought back in the beginning some one said that if it was proven pilot suicide then the insurance companies do not have to pay out

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    We can only guess at what happened, and why, but it is the second incident taking place that arouses my curiosity. Indeed this flight may have been chosen because there were few Muslims on board.

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