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Old 23-03-2014, 01:04 PM   #1076 (permalink)
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Took me 10 seconds to find this on Google. Optus (and Defence) C1 Satellite Type: Space Systems/Loral (SS/L): LS-1300 Launch Date: 11 June 2003 Location: 156° east Design Life: 15 Years Equipment: 24 Ku band transponders, 4 (+1) Ka band transponders, 4 X band transponders, 6 UHF transponders Partially funded by the Australian Government (Defence Department) - Optus C1's use is shared between Defence and Telecommunications, in particular the supply of Television services to Australia. Mitsubishi Electric was the prime contractor responsible for manufacturing all the Optus C1 communications systems.
Which is entirely unrelated to the article. A com sat does not do earth observation.
And you know what the DoD use it for how....?

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I think I've got the scenario.

Shortly into the flight, the suicidal pilot programmed a route change into the computer.

Before he could depressurise the plane, two Iranians travelling on fake passports overtook the cabin, intending to fly the plane to Afghanistan and crash it into Bagram airbase.

Meanwhile, as they tried to steer the plane North West, a group of CIA agents overwhelmed them, and steered the plane towards Diego Garcia, where the 20 chip makers were to be waterboarded.

On the way, the Lithium Ion batteries caught fire. The smoke from burning Mangosteens incapacitated all on board, the fire eventually bringing the plane crashing into the sea.

Job done.

Added: Since no-one can prove my story wrong, it must be true.
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Took me 10 seconds to find this on Google. Optus (and Defence) C1 Satellite Type: Space Systems/Loral (SS/L): LS-1300 Launch Date: 11 June 2003 Location: 156° east Design Life: 15 Years Equipment: 24 Ku band transponders, 4 (+1) Ka band transponders, 4 X band transponders, 6 UHF transponders Partially funded by the Australian Government (Defence Department) - Optus C1's use is shared between Defence and Telecommunications, in particular the supply of Television services to Australia. Mitsubishi Electric was the prime contractor responsible for manufacturing all the Optus C1 communications systems.
Which is entirely unrelated to the article. A com sat does not do earth observation.
And you know what the DoD use it for how....?

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Defense would use it for the same purpose Optus does. Communications.
It orbits somewhat N/E of New Guinea, pretty useless for looking at the S/W ocean.
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Pallet, belts sighted in Australia hunt for MH370
March 23, 2014

PERTH, Australia - Australian officials said Sunday that a wooden cargo pallet along with belts or straps have been spotted in the remote Indian Ocean by one of the aircraft deployed in the hunt for a missing Malaysian jet.

The objects were seen by a civilian aircraft assisting in the search for Malaysia Airlines MH370 on Saturday in what the Australian Maritime Safety Authority confirmed was the "first visual sighting in the search so far".

"Part of the description was a wooden pallet and a number of other items which were nondescript around it and some belts of some different colours around it as well, strapping belts of different lengths," AMSA aircraft operations coordinator Mike Barton said.

"We tried to refind that yesterday, one of the New Zealand aircraft, and unfortunately they didn’t find it. That’s the nature of it -- you only have to be off by a few hundred metres in a fast-travelling aircraft," he told a press briefing.

Barton said Sunday’s search, which will involve four military and four civilian aircraft, would return to the area to try and zero in on the objects again.

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Spirits lift in search for missing Malaysian jet
March 23, 2014

Sydney - There is "increasing hope" that debris from a Malaysian passenger jet missing for over two weeks will be found in the southern Indian Ocean, Australian officials said Sunday.

Two Chinese aircraft and two from Japan joined the international force of ships and planes searching a 36,000-kilometre patch some 2,500 kilometres south-west of Perth.

After four days of fruitless searching, spirits were buoyed by an image of a large object, 22.5 metres by 13 metres, captured by a Chinese satellite March 18, two days after the first satellite images were broadcast.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott spoke of "very credible leads" and said there was "increasing hope ... that we might be on the road to discovering what did happen."

The object photographed by the Chinese satellite was about 120 kilometres from where the first images of possible debris from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were taken.

Australia’s HMAS Success is already in the search area along with two merchant ships. Chinese, British and more Australian naval vessels were en route.

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Sad when spirits get lifted by finding the wreckage.
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suspect it is the same debris as first seen a few days ago , 120 nm over a couple of days is about what a normal ocean current would do .
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I wouldn't think a pallet floating in the sea is that uncommon.
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More bloody satellite photos.

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A French satellite has spotted potential objects floating in the sea in the southern search corridor of the Indian Ocean.
The images were immediately relayed to the rescue co-ordination centre in Australia, where civilian and military aircraft have been carrying out sweeps of the area looking for signs of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.
It is the third possible sighting of debris in the area. On Saturday, the Chinese government released a satellite image showing a large floating object.
That object, measuring 74ft (22.5m) by 43ft (13m), was photographed on Tuesday just 75 miles from where two other potential pieces of debris were spotted by an Australian satellite.
China has said further analysis is needed to determine if this is related to the plane.
A statement from Malaysia's acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein said: "This morning, Malaysia received new satellite images from the French authorities showing potential objects in the vicinity of the southern corridor.
"Malaysia immediately relayed these images to the Australian rescue co-ordination centre.
"Australia, China and France have now released satellite images that show potential objects, which may be related to MH370, in the vicinity of the southern corridor.
"All this information has been forwarded to Australia, as the lead country in the area of concern."
Eight aircraft, based at an air base north of Perth in Australia, were involved in a fourth day of searching for the debris on Sunday in a zone around 1,550 miles southwest of the coast.
Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott spoke of the "increasing hope" of finding out what happened to MH370.
He said: "It's still too early to be definite, but obviously we have now had a number of very credible leads and there is increasing hope, no more than hope, no more than hope, that we might be on the road to discovering what did happen to this ill-fated aircraft."
Michael Barton, of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, said: "Today's search is about a visual search, a complete change of emphasis from earlier searching using radar.
"So we're into a more defined area based on the satellite's imagery."
The authority said the search operation had been split into two areas, with a total of eight aircraft involved in an operation that covers 22,800 sq miles (59,000 sq km).
The wing of a Boeing 777-200ER is approximately 88ft (27m) long and 45ft (14m) wide at its base, according to estimates taken from scale drawings.
The fuselage is 208ft (63.7m) long and 20ft (6.2m) wide.
Malaysian authorities held a six-hour briefing in Beijing with relatives of passengers on board the flight.
Bad weather has threatened the operation after a cyclone warning was declared for Tropical Cyclone Gillian, which is forecast to move into the southern search corridor.
A cold front is also predicted to move through the region later on Sunday, which could bring clouds and wind.
The Malaysia Airline flight disappeared from air traffic control screens in the early hours of March 8 with 239 people on board.
Investigators believe it was deliberately diverted by someone on board shortly after leaving Malaysian air space.
Sky News : Missing Plane: French Satellite Spots 'Debris'
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Sad when spirits get lifted by finding the wreckage.
Very true . . .
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Pilot depressurized the plane.
don't the masks drop automatically ?
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Pilot depressurized the plane.
don't the masks drop automatically ?
The masks are only there to keep them alive while the pilot gets the plane down to 10k.
You have about 10 minutes of air.
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I wouldn't think a pallet floating in the sea is that uncommon.

did the SAT spot any mangosteen stains on the wood?
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I must have missed something in this avalanche of posts;

how can they say that somebody programmed the flight-control/auto-pilot?
is it positive knowledge that the flight was not under human control? that it
was programmed?

or just another assumption?
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News of the day:

Missing MH370: Kate Bush apologises for poster picturing her lost at sea

Veteran pop diva Kate Bush has issued a statement apologising for any misconceptions over a concert poster that pictures her as a victim lost at sea.

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Pet fish pines for missing owner's return

. . . Puspanathan Subramaniam, who boarded the MH370. His father Subramaniam Gurusa[at]my said the pet arowana fish was sluggish and had refused to eat for over five days.
“The fish now only eats if I prop my son’s photo next to the aquarium”
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when looking at various www news sites I frequently see interviews with
the Australian PM.
why is he hands on and in on this? why doesn't he leave the matters to
the relevant Australian authorities that is supposed to have real knowledge
relative the plane/search etc

this MH370 thing is not an exceptional big event, far from the first time lots
of people suffer in aircraft events

seems just odd to me that the PM frequently takes the floor

but maybe its different down under, dunno
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when looking at various www news sites I frequently see interviews with
the Australian PM.
why is he hands on and in on this? why doesn't he leave the matters to
the relevant Australian authorities that is supposed to have real knowledge
relative the plane/search etc

this MH370 thing is not an exceptional big event, far from the first time lots
of people suffer in aircraft events

seems just odd to me that the PM frequently takes the floor

but maybe its different down under, dunno

Because he saw from what has already happened what an absolute clusterfuck the media turn it into when too many people talk.
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when looking at various www news sites I frequently see interviews with
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why is he hands on and in on this? why doesn't he leave the matters to
the relevant Australian authorities that is supposed to have real knowledge
relative the plane/search etc

this MH370 thing is not an exceptional big event, far from the first time lots
of people suffer in aircraft events

seems just odd to me that the PM frequently takes the floor

but maybe its different down under, dunno
15 minutes of fame on a world stage, plus gets him away from questions about unemployment, deficits and other bad things that he was going to fix.
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15 minutes of fame on a world stage,
More of this, I'd say
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Plane has 7 hours of fuel [allegedly] burns of a load ducking and diving radar, heads north according to thai radar.
RR says engines stop transmitting as they leave Malay airspace.
Tony OZ PM who has no earth observation satellites finds stuff floating in the southern ocean. Outside probable fuel range gets played for the fool that he is, for some world wide TV.
Junk floating in the sea is usually not a plane.
No credible sources put the plane anywhere, that I find strange.
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Just as a rider, when in town can see my old car parked in the backyard of my moms house. Google earth.
Yet top secret spy satellites, can;t give a clear pic in real time.
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Old 23-03-2014, 11:33 PM   #1097 (permalink)
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suspect it is the same debris as first seen a few days ago , 120 nm over a couple of days is about what a normal ocean current would do .
Do you think Mid? Sounds on the high side. 25-30nm from West to east in that part of the world. Now if any of the debris are being moved by wind as well as the current could be much further.
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Is the debri normally found in this part of the ocean, or is it an unusual to find debri there?
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Is the debri normally found in this part of the ocean, or is it an unusual to find debri there?
not sure where "this/there" is
but if its a shipping lane or near a shipping lane plenty crap will float around
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Plenty of crap floating around in the ocean....

Are they giving out prizes for finding it?
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