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    If anyone wants to know what a rat smells like....

    MH370: Malaysian military sidelines crash investigators as power play emerges on search team
    Updated 8 February 2018, 22:50 AEDT
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    A power struggle emerges in the Malaysian-led investigation into the disappearance of MH370, with four air crash investigators sidelined and plans to replace them with Malaysian Air Force officers.


    A power struggle has emerged in the Malaysian-led investigation into the disappearance of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 over the Indian Ocean four years ago.


    Four civilian air crash investigators, including the lead authority on analysing black box flight data, have been sidelined over reported budget constraints.


    The Malaysian military wants to replace them with seven Royal Malaysian Air Force fighter and helicopter pilots with far less crash investigation experience.


    The lead aviator, Colonel Lau Ing Hiong, confirmed his secondment to the search team


    "Yeah, it's correct," he said.


    The colonel said he saw his role on the team as being there in anticipation of the black boxes being found, but denied there would be a military operation to secure them.


    Figures linked to the investigation have told the ABC on condition of anonymity they are concerned the recent move has tarnished the search's independence.


    One said unauthorised people like Air Force personnel on board the search vessel could raise questions about the chain of evidence.


    That is due to a perceived conflict of interest for military personnel between the civilian chief of the search and their military commander.


    But insiders say the search has already been muddied merely because of the presence of military personnel on the team.


    The director-general of Malaysia's civil aviation authority declined an extended interview, but said: "These investigations need to be done by independent bodies."


    The ABC has approached the Malaysian Prime Minister for clarification about the role of the Air Force.


    It is not unprecedented for Malaysian Air Force personnel to be involved in air crash investigations — they were in the case of MH17, which was shot down over Ukraine.


    The private sector vessel currently searching for the plane's wreckage, the Seabed Constructor, docked at Fremantle to refuel on Thursday.


    Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said so far the search had gone smoothly in the ship's 90-day race against the clock to find the wreckage.


    "[In] one day they can search more than 1,000 square kilometres. We will continue to keep the public informed," he said.


    The ship has been the subject of conspiracy theories after it turned off its transponder for 80 hours, fuelling internet speculation.


    Malaysian authorities know why the ship was not reporting its location, but did not disclose the information in their weekly update on the search.


    Until now, the MH370 search has been conducted by eight civilian aviation experts including Malaysians as well as foreign nationals, one of them from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.


    MH370: Malaysian military sidelines crash investigators as power play emerges on search team | ABC Radio Australia

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    THERE was no treasure chest, no Black Pearl, no Jack Sparrow and no MH370 - yet.
    What there was were two geological formations that had been identified as points of interest.
    The Ocean Infinity-leased Seabed Constructor, the high-tech vessel searching for MH370, had returned to revisit those points of interest discovered on its first sweep and turned off its satellite tracking system so as not to give the relatives false hopes.
    The idea was to try and prevent wild speculation it had found the plane.
    What happened was exactly the opposite, with bizarre stories, laced for good measure with a treasure chest.
    A source in London, said the 'treasure chest' was a throw-away joke from Fugro's Paul Kennedy, the former search head.
    "'PK' made some flippant, closing remarks during his presentation at the WA SSSI 2015 conference several years ago and this was picked up and became speculation that spread across the internet like wild fire," the source said.
    The Seabed Constructor left the search area on February 4 and arrived at Henderson today. It will depart on February 12 to resume the search.
    The MH370 Response Team said 7500 sq. km of the 25,000 sq. km identified in the Australian Transport Safety Bureau’s final report on the original search had been swept by the ship.


    The Seabed Constructor began the search January 21 and uses eight Hugin autonomous underwater vehicles to scour the seabed.
    Ocean Infinity has a "no find, no fee" deal with the Malaysian government.
    It will be paid $US20 million if plane is found in the 5000 sq. km primary search area, $US30m in the 10,000 sq. km secondary zone and $US50m in the 10,000 sq.km tertiary area.
    The three zones make up the 25,000 sq.m area defined by the ATSB and other experts.
    Ocean Inifinity will get $US70m if it locates the wreckage in outside that 25,000 sq.km zone where a number of experts have suggested it is.
    The University of Western Australia’s Professor Charitha Pattiaratchi said last year that its reverse drift modelling put the location of MH370 "at Longitude 96.5° E Latitude 32.5° S with a 40km radius."
    Some members of the global "Independent Group" of experts, believe it may be even further north and a map on the Malaysian update identifies two "site extensions", one of which ranges north of 29° S.
    The Ocean Infinity search will cover all areas.

    https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/a...-ng-b88739586z

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    Article at the link below about the "treasure chest". What's striking is the quality of images they can now produce.



    One of the stunning sonar images of the wreck believed to be the SV Inca, which vanished en route from South America to Australia in 1911. Photo / Supplied
    Truth about 'treasure' chest at centre of the MH370 search boat rumours - NZ Herald
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    PUTRAJAYA: Seabed Constructor, the vessel deployed to search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, will resume its search tomorrow.

    Department of Civil Aviation director-general Datuk Seri Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said: “The ship is currently refuelling and restocking supplies at Fremantle, Perth, Western Australia, and will be leaving port this Sunday.”

    Azharuddin said he was satisfied with what he saw on board the search vessel which had sophisticated equipment and eight Autonomous Underwater Vehicles.
    “They are very professional and have been very transparent about the complex operation,” he said when contacted in Australia yesterday.

    Azharuddin also met with two Royal Malaysian Navy personnel who had been seconded to the vessel and was given a satisfactory progress report. Seabed Constructor resumed the search in the Indian Ocean on Jan 22, but the vessel had turned off its monitoring system for three days without explanation. On Wednesday, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai assured that the search mission was on course and the company had “every right” to switch off their transponder.

    Ocean Infinity, the US-based company engaged by Malaysia for the search mission, has 90 days to find MH370 on a “no cure, no fee” basis.
    If it manages to find the aircraft, the company will be rewarded between US$20mil (RM78mil) and US$70mil (RM273mil), depen[at]ding on the area the plane is found.

    The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines flight, with 239 people on board, went missing on March 8, 2014, after departing from Kuala Lumpur.
    An earlier Australian-led search for the plane was suspended in January 2017, after it failed to find the missing aircraft, despite covering a 120,000 sq km area in the southern Indian Ocean.

    Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nati...chxoIWMoCZh.99

    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nati...-in-australia/

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    I don't understand this part about being paid apparently on a sliding scale between US$20mil and US$70mil "depending on the area the plane is found" in. There's a $50 mill difference there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    ^somebody pulled their funding
    Sounds plausible to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I don't understand this part about being paid apparently on a sliding scale between US$20mil and US$70mil "depending on the area the plane is found" in. There's a $50 mill difference there....
    I think it seems to send a signal of shoulder shrugging whateverism.

    I've been on that ship. You can find online who finances and runs the operation. An idea touted around for throwing all that money at it was to search for gold at the bottom of the Irish sea:
    £4.5bn of British gold sunk by the Nazis | Daily Mail Online

    ...which didn't seem to happen.

    My impression was that people running things seemed slightly deluded and unrealistic about operating ships. The non-crew staff seemed a bit clueless and bit swaggary and nonchalant to me.
    Basics seemed to be missed, expectations (including deadlines) seemed unrealistic, and indicative of inexperience. It seems to be bimbling around looking for high-value work to justify the outlay, and constantly pumping out PR.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1F2i0rYMj8

    we are all figments of our own imagination.

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    I never quite understood why the Australian government had to suffer the brunt of the search cost towards the end of the search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I don't understand this part about being paid apparently on a sliding scale between US$20mil and US$70mil "depending on the area the plane is found" in. There's a $50 mill difference there....
    I believe it's based on how long it takes to find it, i.e. the area searched. The longer it takes, the more expenses, ergo the bigger payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco999 View Post
    I never quite understood why the Australian government had to suffer the brunt of the search cost towards the end of the search.
    They didn't have to. It's called a "goodwill gesture".

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    It's been mentioned on here several times, and the current search may yield useful information, so: An entertaining read on Deep Sea Mining the will browse better than it will paste.

    The secret on the ocean floor - BBC News

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    Flight MH370 Update: Renewed Search By Ocean Infinity Enters Next Phase
    BY SUMAN VARANDANI @SUMAN09 ON 02/28/18 AT 2:06 AM


    The renewed search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 entered its next phase as the initial search of 3,160 sq. miles did not yield any concrete clues as to the plane's whereabouts. Texas-based Ocean Infinity — which has signed a "no cure, no fee" deal with the Malaysian government to find the jetliner — is scouring a remote part of the southern Indian Ocean, where the ill-fated plane is believed to have gone down.


    The second leg of the search includes scouring through an area of the 9,652 sq. miles primary search region. According to a report, citing an update posted Tuesday by Malaysia’s MH370 Response Team, Ocean Infinity’s search ship, the Seabed Constructor, was able to launch all eight of its autonomous underwater vehicles following favorable weather conditions. Earlier, the search operation was hampered due to bad weather.


    The Seabed Constructor is searching an area on the northern part of the 9,652 sq. miles area defined by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) as the most likely resting place of the missing Boeing 777.


    Flight MH370 disappeared in March 8, 2014 with 239 people on board while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. A multimillion-dollar search operation that lasted three years could not find the plane's fuselage and the cause of the crash. The search was called off last year after more than 46,000 square miles of the ocean floor was scoured.


    During the latest search, Ocean Infinity plans to find Flight MH370's flight data recorder, which could hold key information that may help investigators learn about what happened to the jet. While it is almost impossible for the data stored in the recorder to have survived for so long under such great depths of the ocean, Seabed Constructor has a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) capable of retrieving the recorder.

    Several concerns were raised about the latest search after Seabed Constructor “disappeared” from satellite tracking between Feb. 1 and Feb. 4.
    Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai later said the Seabed Constructor’s transponder was switched off.
    “But it is all normal, and if they want to switch it off, they have every right to do so,” Liow had told the media, adding there was no cause for concern.
    Since the plane's disappearance, several conspiracy theories have surfaced about the jet, with some saying the pilot deliberately crashed the plane while others hinted at a hijack. However, authorities confirmed none of the theories.
    The only positive clue so far about the plane's disappearance came when debris pieces washed up on the shores of islands in the Indian Ocean. After analyzing the pieces, authorities said some of them came from the missing jet.
    Blaine Gibson, the independent wreckage hunter who found several plane debris, said in January that he was confident the plane will be found.
    "I believe firmly that this mystery will be solved," Gibson told Australia’s ABC news network at the time. "That we will eventually know what happened on the plane. That may come very soon... If the Inmarsat data and its interpretation are correct I'm confident that Ocean Infinity will find it."

    Flight MH370 Update: Renewed Search By Ocean Infinity Enters Next Phase

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    9,652 sq. miles area
    Damn big chunk of sea bed.

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    Malaysia says new search for flight MH370 to end mid-June

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    KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - A search by a U.S. firm for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is expected to complete its survey by mid-June, the Southeast Asian nation said on Saturday, as families marked the fourth anniversary of one of aviation’s greatest mysteries.


    Flight MH370, carrying 239 people, disappeared on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, 2014.

    Australia, China and Malaysia ended an unsuccessful A$200-million (112.5 million pounds) search across a 120,000 square-kilometre area in the Indian Ocean in January 2017, despite investigators urging authorities to extend the operation 25,000 sq km north of the search area.

    Earlier this year, Malaysia agreed to pay U.S. firm Ocean Infinity up to $70 million if it found the plane within 90 days. The search vessel, the Seabed Constructor, began its search on Jan. 23.

    The 90-day agreement, however, did not include days for the search vessel to travel to a port for refuelling, Civil Aviation Authority chairman Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said.

    “The vessel has a working cycle of 26 days before it needs to refuel and resupply,” Azharuddin said at a memorial event marking the fourth year of the plane’s disappearance.

    Plans to recover the Boeing 777’s wreckage or its flight recorders, in the event the aircraft is found, will be finalised in two weeks, and will involve several Malaysian and Australian agencies, he said.

    Malaysia will take custody of any parts recovered from the seabed, he said.

    The Seabed Constructor has completed the first part of its search, covering 8,200 sq km, and has now moved into a new area, Ocean Infinity said in its weekly update on Tuesday.

    It has not yet made any significant findings, the firm said.

    Saturday’s memorial event featured talks and musical performances, as families paid tributes to the passengers and crew aboard the aircraft.

    “We want to remind everyone that MH370 is not history, it’s the future,” said Grace Nathan, a lawyer whose mother, Anne Daisy, was on the plane.

    “It’s very important in the interests of aviation safety that we find MH370, so that we can prevent something like this from happening again,” she said.

    Investigators are divided on whether the aircraft suffered a mechanical failure or whether it was deliberately diverted over the southern Indian Ocean.

    Debris has been collected from Indian Ocean islands and Africa’s east coast and at least three pieces have been confirmed as coming from the missing plane.

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-malaysia-airlines-mh370/malaysia-says-new-search-for-flight-mh370-to-end-mid-june-idUKKCN1GF0AM




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    The following is the full statement by The Malaysian ICAO Annex 13 Safety Investigation Team for MH370 on ongoing efforts to locate the ill-fated Boeing 777 aircraft.

    1. This 4th Interim Statement has been prepared under Chapter 6, paragraph 6 of Annex 13 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, Aircraft Accident and Incident Investigation (ICAO Annex 13), to provide information on the progress of the investigation on the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Flight MH370, a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, registered as 9M-MRO pending the completion of the Safety Report as required under ICAO Annex 13.

    2. The Beijing-bound international scheduled passenger flight, with a total of 239 persons (227 passengers and 12 crew) on board, departed KL International Airport (KLIA) at 1642 UTC on 07 March 2014 [0042 MYT on 08 March 2014]. Less than 40 minutes after take-off, communications with the aircraft was lost after passing waypoint IGARI.


    3. As a Contracting State of ICAO and in accordance with ICAO Annex 13 and under Regulation 126(1) of the Malaysian Civil Aviation Regulations 1996 (MCAR), on 25 April 2014, Malaysia established an independent international Air Accident Investigation Team, known as ‘The Malaysian ICAO Annex 13 Safety Investigation Team for MH370’ (the “Team”) to investigate the disappearance of flight MH370. The Team, headed by the Investigator-in Charge, comprises 19 Malaysians and 7 Accredited Representatives of 7 safety investigation authorities from 7 countries.


    4. On 08 March 2015, the 1st Interim Statement and the Factual Information on the Safety Investigation for MH370 were released to the public on the first anniversary of the disappearance of MH370. Subsequent Interim Statements were released on 08 March 2016 and 08 March 2017.


    5. Aircraft debris possibly from MH370 are still being discovered around the southeastern coast of the African continent and the adjacent islands. An updated summary of the debris recovered was published on 30 April 2017 together with the debris examination reports. These are available on the Ministry of Transport (MOT) Malaysia and the Ministry of Communications and Multimedia Malaysia (KKMM) websites (the links to the websites are provided in footnote 6 below).


    6. At the time of writing, as reported in the Interim Statement released in 2017, three items of debris remain as being confirmed from MH370, i.e., the right flaperon, a part of the right outboard flap and a section of the left outboard flap. A few other pieces of debris were determined to be almost certain from MH370 including some cabin interior items. There is continuing activity to retrieve and examine any new debris that is discovered.


    7. Official search activities coordinated by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau were suspended on 17 January 2017. On 03 October 2017, the ATSB published a report detailing the history of the search and made conclusions and recommendations relating to the search activities. The ATSB search report is separate and distinct from the Safety Report required under ICAO Annex 13.


    8. To date, the main wreckage of MH370 has not been found. On 10 January 2018, the Malaysian Government entered into an agreement with Ocean Infinity to conduct a 90-day underwater search in an area that is considered the most likely location for the wreckage.


    9. The publication of the detailed investigation report, that is the Safety Report, based on currently available information has been suspended pending the outcome of the latest search effort, since any new evidence uncovered is likely to significantly affect the investigation. In the event that the aircraft is found, the Team will conduct further investigation. If the aircraft is not found and a decision is made to discontinue the search, the Team will resume the completion of the report and release it in the months ahead.

    https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2...statement-full

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    This guy found it on google earth, riddled with bullet holes....

    An amateur crash investigator claims to have found the remains of missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 while looking on Google Earth.

    Peter McMahon, 64, an Australian mechanical engineer who says he has worked in crash investigations for more than 25 years, insists he has discovered the missing aircraft.
    http://http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/18...earth-7396771/

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...c29062e8029cbe
    Last edited by uncle junior; 19-03-2018 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Another whackjob.

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    Twat.



    The Google Earth images McMahon sent to the Australian agency were from Nov. 6, 2009 — more than four years before the airplane disappeared, officials added.




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    Time travel has been with us for decades!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Time travel has been with us for decades!!
    Given your propensity to believe in fairy tales, you're probably being serious.

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    It's all gone very quiet.

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    The new Ocean Infinity Search has been going on for 33 days - but 50 foot waves, THREE TIMES as high as a house – mean experts are losing hope in ever spotting the plane.

    The search consists of a 65-man vessel Seabed Constructor equipped geared to scouring the depths of the Indian Ocean for any sight of plane debris from the MH370 aircraft.

    But, four years after the plane went missing, the latest searches through the Indian Ocean has revealed nothing - after 16,000sq km of the planned 25,000sq km area was combed through.

    The search location was pinpointed by an Australian Oceanographer as the most likely spot the plane would be.

    Some involved in the search still remain optimistic and hopeful about finding the aircraft, despite the emerging problems.

    Two Royal Malaysia Navy officers, Azmi Rosedee and Abdul Halim Ahmad Nordin work on the Seabed Constructor search vessel and report their findings daily to Kuala Lumpur.

    Reports revealed that the Norwegian search ship faced massive waves of up to 15m (50 feet), which made the search even harder.

    They said: “It’s been more than 30 days now, but the search team remains optimistic.

    “We are giving our utmost to find the plane.

    “We have gone through a number of rough days. Days which we would not have been able to survive without having perseverance and a strong will.Some involved in the search still remain optimistic and hopeful about finding the aircraft, despite the emerging problems.

    Two Royal Malaysia Navy officers, Azmi Rosedee and Abdul Halim Ahmad Nordin work on the Seabed Constructor search vessel and report their findings daily to Kuala Lumpur.

    Reports revealed that the Norwegian search ship faced massive waves of up to 15m (50 feet), which made the search even harder.

    They said: “It’s been more than 30 days now, but the search team remains optimistic.

    “We are giving our utmost to find the plane.

    “We have gone through a number of rough days. Days which we would not have been able to survive without having perseverance and a strong will.

    “Operations continue even when the sea is rough. But it makes it difficult for us to deploy and recover the AUVs. This slows us down.

    “Aside from that, the seabed of the search areas is hilly and uneven. This also disrupts the AUV’s capability to thoroughly sweep the areas.

    “When this happens, the team has to send the autonomous underwater vehicles down again to areas that were not swept by the side-scan sonar.

    This is to ensure that the whole radius is covered.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...e-search-found

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    The new scan of the Indian Ocean floor for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has searched nearly 80,000 square kilometers since January without finding any sign of the plane's wreckage.This comes despite hopes last year that a 25,000 square kilometer area most likely to contain the aircraft had been identified.

    American technology company Ocean Infinity released an update late Monday, saying it had scanned up to 1,300 square kilometers per day since launching its mission in late January.

    Ocean Infinity CEO Oliver Plunkett says while results so far are disappointing, the firm remains "absolutely determined for the remainder of the search."


    Malaysia has extended the deadline to mid-June for the company to find the plane.


    MH370 disappeared in 2014, while heading from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people aboard.

    New scan of ocean floor hasn't found any sign of MH370 - ABC News

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    ^Clueless in Indian Ocean...

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    They're running out of time (and presumably money)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...al-search-zone

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    MH370 conspiracy theories: what happened to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight?

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    Wild rumours continue to circulate about the fate of the Malaysia Airlines jet



    In the three years following its disappearance, no sign of flight MH370 has yet been found


    Malaysia’s ex-prime minister Mahathir Mohamad said today that missing flight MH370 may have been taken over “remotely” in a bid to foil a hijack, reviving one of the many conspiracy theories surrounding its disappearance.

    The Malaysia Airlines plane vanished in March 2014 with 239 people – mostly Chinese nationals – on board, during a routine flight from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia to Beijing.

    Mahathir, who ruled Malaysia for 22 years from 1981 to 2003, is currently leading an opposition bid to topple scandal-tainted incumbent Prime Minister Najib Razak in elections due this year, writes Channel News Asia.
    The 92-year-old has said in the past that he doesn’t believe Kuala Lumpur was involved in any cover-up of the whereabouts of MH370, but told The Australian this week that it was possible the plane might have been taken over “remotely”.

    “It was reported in 2006 that Boeing was given a licence to operate the takeover of a hijacked plane while it is flying so I wonder whether that’s what happened or not,” said Mahathir. “It’s very strange that a plane leaves no trace at all.

    “The capacity to do that is there. The technology is there. You know how good people are now with operating planes without pilots. Even fighter planes are to be without pilots. Some technology we can read in the press but many of military significance is not published,” he said.

    In 2015, the Daily Mail reported that although the technology to fly planes from the ground does exist, “support for real-time monitoring of jets from the ground has stalled amid airline fears of the dangers of eliminating pilots and the possibilities of a so-called cyber-hijack by terrorists.” The paper added that unions representing pilots are also against the move.

    What happened to flight MH370, which disappeared mid-flight in March 2014, has become one of the world’s greatest aviation mysteries. The huge gap in reliable information about the aircraft’s fate has been filled with suggestions from armchair sleuths, aviation experts, authors and conspiracy theorists
    Here are some of the wildest theories on how and why MH370 disappeared:

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    In mid March, an Australian man has made the sensational claim that he has found the wreckage of MH370 using Google Earth.
    Peter McMahon, a mechanical engineer and amateur crash investigator, spent years combing the Indian Ocean on Google Earth looking for the plane.

    According to Mr McMahon, the wreckage of the flight - which he claims is riddled with bullet holes - is located just a few miles south of Round Island, which is governed by Mauritius, in an area of the ocean that has not been searched by crews, the Daily Mail writes.

    McMahon “took his claims one step further”, the site adds, by saying he also believed US officials were refusing to search the area, and were withholding information from the public.

    “They have made sure that all information received has been hidden from the public, even our government, but why,” he told reporters.

    “They do not want it found as it’s full of bullet holes, finding it will only open another inquiry,” he added.
    Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai has rubbished McMahon’s claims, and said that the images McMahon circulated had also analysed by Civil Aviation Authority Malaysia (CAAM).

    “CAAM has found McMahon's claims to be baseless,” the New Straits Times reports. “Hence, the people should not be taken for a ride on the matter.”

    What happened to flight MH370, which disappeared mid-flight in March 2014, has become one of the world’s greatest aviation mysteries, and the huge gap in reliable information about the aircraft’s fate has been filled with suggestions from armchair sleuths, aviation experts, authors and conspiracy theorists
    Here are some of the wildest theories on how and why MH370 disappeared.

    Remote cyber hijacking

    In his book Beneath Another Sky: A Global Journey into History, respected writer and historian Norman Davies says technology designed to prevent another 9/11-style terror attack by allowing planes to be controlled remotely could have been exploited by cyber-spooks.

    He suggests MH370, which was equipped with Boeing’s Honeywell Un-interruptible Autopilot on-board computer, could have been hacked and then reprogrammed and flown to a secret location.

    He told The Sunday Times the plane may have been carrying sensitive material or personnel to Beijing, making it the subject of two kidnap attempts.

    “There are reports that the cargo detailed in the manifest didn’t add up. I don’t know what it might have been carrying but it may have been carrying something somebody didn’t want to get to China.”
    Because of this Davies suggested the plane could have been “remotely kidnapped by a hacker and then a second hacker or remote controller took it over”.

    “The first kidnap was by the Americans, who wanted to stop the plane getting to Beijing and planned to divert it to Diego Garcia [a US naval base in the Indian Ocean], and then somebody hacked it to stop it from getting there” he said.

    “Several other theories back up this possibility, pointing to the widely held belief that the official cargo manifest detailing what was actually on the Boeing 777 was wrong” says the Daily Mirror, and while it seems taken straight out of a modern-day spy film, a similar theory has been touted before.

    Back in March 2014, just days after the plane went missing, the Sunday Express reported that hackers could have accessed the aircraft’s flight computer using a mobile phone and reprogrammed the speed, altitude and direction. “It could then be landed or made to crash by remote control,” the paper suggests, and it may be worth noting that the woman who came up with the theory “runs her own company training businesses and governments to counter terrorist attacks”.

    Putin knows

    Vladimir Putin has known all along where the missing Malaysia Airlines jet is, according to a volunteer investigator.

    Speaking to the Daily Star, Andre Milne said flight MH370 made a "soft ditch" landing in the Bay of Bengal, in the Indian Ocean, and that the Russian president was aware of this from the start.
    "Satellites that were placed by the Russians saw the wreckage, he said. "Putin would have been given that information".

    Putin kept quiet because he only discovered the fate of the jet thanks to a secret spy satellite, adds Milne, who previously appealed for £1.3m funding to scour the area for the missing jet.
    He said: "The reason President Putin did not raise his hand and march in and say we found it is because technically he would have been admitting committing espionage."
    Insisting that witness statements corroborated his theory, Milne added that if a search party ventured to the Bay of Bengal, they would find "wreckage with no flaperon" on the seafloor.

    Mystery passenger

    Was there a mysterious extra passenger on board who took control of the doomed Boeing 777, plunging it into the sea?

    That's the theory that emerged on the same day a lawsuit was filed in the US on behalf of the families of the victims of the MH370 crash.

    According to volunteer investigator Andre Milne, the plane's official manifest says that 239 people went missing. He says there were officially 226 passengers on the flight (four failed to board) and another 12 crew, which makes a total of 238.

    Milne told express.co.uk: "So now we have an 'extra' person on board MH370."
    He added: "The extra passenger likely acted in conjunction with larger external operational support to take full command and control of the cockpit of MH370."
    A spokesperson for the official MH370 investigation team said: "We are aware of this discrepancy. The actual number of passengers on board was 227."

    He added that the apparent discrepancy appeared on a computerised "load sheet" which was sent out two hours before the plane took off.
    "The actual figures can differ from that transmitted on the load sheet due to last minute changes," he said.

    Cracks in the plane

    Perhaps the most prosaic, yet also most believable, theory as to why the plane went down does not centre around a conspiracy at all, but well-documented faults with the plane that could have led to it crashing.
    Six months before the plane disappeared, the US aviation watchdog warned airlines of a problem with cracks in Boeing 777s that could lead to a mid-air break up or a catastrophic drop in pressure.

    The Federal Aviation Administration issued a final warning just two days before MH370 disappeared after one airline found a 15-inch crack in the fuselage of one of its planes.

    However, the Daily Mirror claims: “Boeing said that the FAA alert did not apply to the missing jet because it did not have the same antenna as the rest of the Boeing 777s”, further fuelling conspiracy theories.

    The ‘Asian’ Bermuda Triangle

    One of the most popular theories on social media is the idea that there could be a second Bermuda Triangle somewhere in the Indian Ocean, explaining MH370’s sudden disappearance.

    A number of planes and boats have gone missing in an area of the North Atlantic known as the Bermuda Triangle over the years, including five Torpedo bombers that mysteriously vanished there in 1945.

    In a bid to back-up this hypothesis, some people – including one Malaysian minister – pointed out that the area where MH370 vanished is on the exact opposite side of the globe to the Bermuda Triangle.

    Unfortunately those people are wrong; the exact opposite side of the globe is closer to the Caribbean than Bermuda, The Sunday Times notes.

    The pilot wanted to 'create the world's greatest mystery'

    Former Australian prime minister Tony Abbott says he believes flight MH370 was brought down intentionally by a pilot who wanted to "create the world's greatest mystery".
    Speaking ahead of the third anniversary of the plane's disappearance, he said: "I have always said the most plausible scenario was murder-suicide and if this guy wanted to create the world's greatest mystery why wouldn't he have piloted the thing to the very end and gone further south?

    "Then there was the analysis that suggested there might be a prospective place to the north."
    Search teams considered murder-suicide early on in their investigations, "but there was little to no evidence uncovered to support it", the Adelaide Advertiser says.

    However, investigative journalist Mark Williams-Thomas does support the idea and says the fragments of evidence so far discovered point to an intentional act by the pilot.

    According to Williams-Thomas, a piece of wing found on Reunion Island, 3,000 miles from the search area, was "in an extended position that only a pilot could've done" and the only explanation for it being like that at the time of impact was that the person flying the plane was trying to bring it down on purpose.

    The latest hypothesis suggests the plane may have been ditched in the Indian Ocean by the pilot, who flew the aircraft right until the very end.

    According to reports in The Australian, lead air crash investigator Captain John Cox believes evidence from the recovered wing flaps suggests the doomed plane was dumped intentionally.

    “Based on that analysis I think it is likely, possibly highly likely, that there was an attempt to ditch the airplane,” he said.
    Around 20 pieces of debris believed to be from MH370 have washed up on coastlines around the Indian Ocean. The most significant of these was the remains of a wing flap found on Reunion Island off the coast of east coast of Africa in 2015, and has since been positively identified as belonging to the missing Malaysian Airways flight.
    However, “Captain Cox’s suggestion of a ditched aircraft does not support the popular theories that the plane was destroyed in a ‘death dive’ or a ‘ghost flight’” says the Daily Mail.

    North Korea took MH370

    It didn't take long for the most secretive nation in the world to be dragged into the MH370 rumour mill. Shortly after the plane disappeared, several conspiracy theorists questioned whether North Korea might be the "missing link" in the mystery.

    They pointed to South Korea's claim that North Korea nearly took out a Chinese plane carrying 220 passengers on 5 March 2014, with Chinese Southern Airlines reportedly passing through the trajectory of a North Korean missile just seven minutes after it was fired. Three days later, MH370 disappeared.

    While some think Pyongyang shot down the plane, others think it might have hijacked it and diverted it to North Korea. One anonymous aviation worker told eTurboNews Group that somebody out there wanted "a really, really huge plane" and that they were most likely after the Boeing 777's technology. Would supreme leader Kim Jong-un go that far? "Kidnapping and human trafficking has always been part of North Korea's scary agenda," said Nelson Alcantara, eTN editor-in-chief. One Reddituser claimed the "perfect place" to perform a hijack would be over the sea soon after take-off. "The North Korean government is bat shit crazy," he added. "There's no telling what crazy logic they might have for taking a plane."

    On the moon

    Three weeks after MH370 went missing, the Sunday Sport announced that the aircraft had been found... on the moon. The front page splash, complete with a doctored photograph of a plane on the surface of the moon, claimed to be a "world exclusive". Drawing attention to an unexplained blip on the radar seen close to flight MH370 before it disappeared, the newspaper said: "The simplest explanation is that this is an intergalactic spacecraft that has swallowed the Boeing 777 whole and transported it to the moon for some extra- terrestrial reason."

    The "scoop" came 26 years after the tabloid published a very similar story about a B-52 bomber, also coincidentally discovered "on the moon". The incredible find turned out to be just as true as other celebrated Sunday Sport stories, such as "Aliens turned our son into a fish finger" and "Statue of Elvis found on Mars". When it emerged that no such bomber could be found on the lunar surface, the paper ran a follow-up headline on its front page: "World War 2 bomber found on moon vanishes".

    Grid of energy

    One unusual theory bases its claims on the presumed location of where the MH370 went down.
    Adherents to the "grid of energy" theory believe the Boeing 777 crashed on "a vortex energy point on the Earth's secret' free energy' grid", Illuminati Watcher says.

    The idea goes that a web of "vortex points" around the world projects energy that the Illuminati – a mysterious group seeking to establish a "New World Order" (read our full Illuminati explainer here) – knows how to harness.
    That or it has something to do with "ancient aliens".

    "The Ancient Astronaut Theory claims that aliens of the past used energy vortex points to travel around the globe, or potentially make mapping points (e.g. the Pyramids of Giza)," Illuminati Watcher explains. "This hidden energy grid is one way of getting off of traditional energy sources like oil and coal, so obviously the people in control of these Big Energy industries would want to keep it quiet."

    For more on these grids of energy, check out this episode of the History Channel documentary Ancient Aliens:
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    404: Plane not found

    Soon after MH370 went missing somebody noticed that the aircraft in question was the 404th Boeing 777 to have come off the production line. The significance? On the internet, a "404 error" message is returned when a web page can't be found. It was therefore interpreted as a hidden message about the fate of the plane, although what it might signify about its fate was unclear. There was a further twist when a group called the Lizard Squad, describing itself as a "cyber caliphate", hacked the Malaysian Airlines website and replaced its content with a message reading "404 – plane not found". But the group made no other claims or demands, and its actions seem to be no more than online mischief.

    The plane was shot down by the US military

    A French former airline director who has been investigating the disappearance of flight MH370 has claimed that the missing plane was shot down by American fighter jets who feared that it had been hijacked and was about to be used to attack the US military base on the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia.

    Marc Dugain, who once ran French airline Proteus, said that he had been warned not to look too closely into the case of MH370 by a British intelligence officer who told him that he was taking "risks", according to France Inter. Dugain had travelled to the Maldives and interviewed witnesses "who reportedly told him they had seen a 'huge plane flying at a really low altitude' towards the island bearing the Malaysia Airlines colours", The Independent reports.

    Several months ago, a book called Flight MH370 – The Mystery, suggested that MH370 had been shot down accidentally by US-Thai joint strike fighters in a military exercise in the South China Sea. The book also claims that search and rescue efforts were deliberately sent in the wrong direction as part of a cover-up, the Daily Mail reports.

    The Reunion debris is fake

    Relatives of the passengers who were on MH370 reacted with a mixture of grief and disbelief following the announcement by the Malaysian prime minister, Najib Razak, that the wreckage found on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion came from the missing plane, The Guardian reports.

    "I want to kill him," said Zhang Meiling, 62, whose daughter and son-in-law were travelling on the plane. "What he said is nonsense. I just want to kill him."

    Others said that in their view, the discovery of wing parts had been faked. "I don't believe it," said Bao Lanfang, 63, whose son, daughter-in-law and grandchild were on MH370. "It has been 515 [days] – that is enough time for them to have produced fake debris."

    The case of the murdered diplomat

    The most recent addition to the ranks of MH370 conspiracy theories surrounds the death of a Malaysian diplomat who had spent years investigating the crash.

    In September this year, the Honorary Malaysian Consul in Madagascar Zahid Raza was shot dead in Madagascar's capital Antananarivo in an apparent assassination. Amateur US flight investigator Blaine Gibson, who worked with Raza in tracking down debris from the plane, told Malay Mail that the diplomat "appeared to have been specifically targeted" and claimed that he has also received death threats.

    Dr Victor Iannello, an original member of the independent group of specialists that helped Australian investigators try to pinpoint the plane's crash site in the southern Indian Ocean, said the timing of Raza's assassination just days before he was due to deliver several new pieces of debris to the Malaysian Ministry of Transport, "makes a possible link to MH370 even more suspicious".

    Yet others have sought to debunk and connection between Raza's death and his search for the missing plane. French-language news website Zinfos 974 has suggested the diplomat was a marked man long before meeting Gibson and speculated he was killed as payback for alleged involvement in the 2009 abduction of several residents of Indo-Pakistani descent known collectively as Karens.

    However, Dr Iannello has contested these claims saying no evidence of his involvement with Karens has been found. Writing in his blog, he went on to say that this could be "disinformation" to distract attention away from the real motive behind the shooting. He went on to add that it was "surprising that the assassination of Mr Raza has been met with stony silence from both Malaysia and France, despite his ties to both countries".

    Life insurance scam


    In March 2014, Malaysian police refused to rule out the possibility that the entire incident may have been a complicated insurance scam.

    "Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities," said Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar Malaysia's Inspector-General of Police.

    At the time, authorities said they would consider all possible motives, no matter how unlikely they seemed, and would investigate all passengers and crew for any sign of unusual behaviour.

    "We are looking very closely at the video footage taken at the KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport)," he added. "We are studying the behavioural pattern of all the passengers."

    MH370 and MH17 were in fact the same plane

    One theory that gained traction in the summer of 2014 was the suggestion that the airliner that crashed in a field in Ukraine was in fact the lost flight MH370, not the scheduled flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
    According to the theory, proposed by a number of sites, includinghumansarefree.com, MH370 was hijacked and forced to land safely in an undisclosed location. Some believers say that the plane was taken to the US military base Diego Garcia – believed to be within range of where the MH370 disappeared – and then deliberately crashed near Donetsk by US agents months later in a "false flag" operation designed to discredit Russia.

    Subsequent world events have played into the theorists' hands, as a number of countries accused Russia of providing military support to Ukrainian separatists – including Buk missile launchers capable of shooting down planes at high altitudes. The EU and US subsequently tightened their sanctions on Moscow.

    To support their argument, some commentators, such as Opob News, point to the fact that wreckage found in Ukraine seems to have a different configuration of windows to the actual MH17, and that a Malaysian flag on the side of the fuselage is not in the right place. Others have suggested that these pictures are fake.

    Alien abduction

    Five per cent of Americans surveyed by Reason.com believe that the plane was abducted by aliens. Some bloggers have pointed to a number of recent UFO sightings in Malaysia as evidence for extraterrestrial intervention. Alexandra Bruce, from Forbidden Knowledge TV, "proves" the involvement of aliens with her analysis of radar data. She claims that footage posted on youtube shows the presence of something that "can only be termed a UFO" in the skies over Malaysia. Of course, that means something that is "unidentified" rather than aliens.

    The idea that aliens were somehow involved in Flight MH370's disappearance was dealt a blow when "UFO expert" Nigel Watson poured scorn on the theory with an article on the technology and science fiction site Omni Media.

    "With the passage of time MH370 has joined the ranks of other unsolved aircraft disappearances, which have been associated with UFOs," Watson wrote.

    These include, he said: flight pioneer Amelia Earhart, who vanished in 1937; the disappearance of band leader Glenn Miller over the English Channel in 1944; "Flight 19" - five US Navy Avenger torpedo bombers which went missing over the Bermuda Triangle in 1945, and 20-year-old Australian pilot Frederick Valentich, who went missing during a training flight over Bass Strait in 1978, shortly after he reported being followed by bright lights in the sky.

    "Speculation about such cases being caused by craft occupied by extra-terrestrial beings or by elusive sky creatures is nothing new," says Watson, so it is not surprising it has also been applied to the case of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

    Nevertheless, he adds, it is unlikely that aliens were responsible for any of the disappearances and "in the case of MH370 there is likely to be a more Earthly explanation for its disappearance".

    The great tragedy of the case "is that with the passage of time the facts are getting increasingly lost and distorted, making the burden for the grieving relatives heavier with each insubstantial clue or unproved theory", Watson says.

    A 9/11-style false-flag hijack mission

    No conspiracy is complete without Israeli involvement, and MH370 is no exception. According to this theory, Israeli agents planned to crash the Malaysia Airlines plane into a building, as in the September 11 attacks, and then blame the atrocity on Iran. Proponents point to the quick identification of two Iranian nationals travelling on forged passports and claims that CCTV images released of the pair had been doctored. More extravagantly, some have claimed that a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 identical to the one that went missing "had been stored in a hangar in Tel Aviv since November 2013".

    The CIA is behind it

    In a blog post, Malaysia's former prime minister, Mahathir Mohamad, wrote that he believes the US Central Intelligence Agency must know something about the plane's fate. He also claimed that Boeing, the plane’s maker, and “certain” unnamed government agencies, are able to take control of commercial airliners such as the missing Boeing 777 remotely if necessary. "Airplanes don’t just disappear," he wrote on his blog. "Certainly not these days with all the powerful communication systems, radio and satellite tracking and filmless cameras which operate almost indefinitely and possess huge storage capacities. ... For some reason, the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA."

    China and Edward Snowden

    Reddit user Dark_Spectre has a theory that links the disappearance of MH370 with Edward Snowden's revelations about the extent of US surveillance.

    The theory is based on the fact that the flight was carrying 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductor – a company that may have worked with the NSA to develop surveillance technology, according to Snowden's documents.

    Dark_Spectre writes: "We have the American IBM Technical Storage Executive for Malaysia, a man working in mass storage aggregation for the company implicated by the Snowden papers for providing their services to assist the National Security Agency in surveilling the Chinese. And now this bunch of US chip guys working for a global leader in embedded processing solutions (embedded smart phone tech and defence contracting) all together… on a plane… and disappeared. Coincidence?"

    The Reddit sleuth suggests that the apparent disappearance of flight MH370 may actually have been the result of an audacious attempt by China to capture a group of private contractors who helped the NSA to conduct spy operations against them. "Honestly, what would 200 lives be to the Chinese intelligence community for the opportunity to find out exactly the depth and scope of our intrusion," Dark_Spectre concludes.

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