Whatever the decision taken by Parliament last week, there seems to be quite a lot of activity on Cyprus at the moment....
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Whatever the decision taken by Parliament last week, there seems to be quite a lot of activity on Cyprus at the moment....
I wrote "declare war", what did you think I meant? And I'm not probably right, I am right. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
Erm, I covered that too:Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
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Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
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Originally Posted by Boon Mee
About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria's civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.
More Americans would back intervention if it is established that chemical weapons have been used, but even that support has dipped in recent days - just as Syria's civil war has escalated and the images of hundreds of civilians allegedly killed by chemicals appeared on television screens and the Internet.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll, taken August 19-23, found that 25 percent of Americans would support U.S. intervention if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces used chemicals to attack civilians, while 46 percent would oppose it. That represented a decline in backing for U.S. action since August 13, when Reuters/Ipsos tracking polls found that 30.2 percent of Americans supported intervention in Syria if chemicals had been used, while 41.6 percent did not.
As Syria war escalates, Americans cool to U.S. intervention: Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters
Interesting that only 25% of Americans support intervention even if it is established the Assad regime used chemical weapons. I suppose, after a decade thats given us Iraq, Afghanistan, the Arab Spring (that wasn't), and the assassination of a US Ambassador in Libya, Joe Sixpack just wants out. Fair enough too.
Looks like ships from all sides positioning themselves in the Med as well.
Russian Med Fleet Redeployment
Syria: Russia And US Send Warships To Med
Russia, France deploy warships to eastern Mediterranean | The Times of Israel
Syria's arms race has accelerated through international pressure | World news | The Guardian
The pressure cooker is on full heat .... Might be better, for all concerned, to let this one cool off a little...
Obama expressly said that Syria's chemical weapons represent an imminent threat to the US.
So if it wasn't for the fact he was going for a bit of PR (i.e. blame Congress for stopping him), there is nothing to stop him launching a raid. They can always argue the semantics afterwards.
An interesting choice of metaphor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Well yes- by lying. Tried and true political technique I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
No one gets 'done' for lying- it's even OK to lie to Congress these days.
The pressure has been rising within Syria for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
The "Superpowers" and their followers are more interested in their own Agendas and taking different sides instead of trying to ease the situation. They are nothing more than vultures, circling Damascus, when they should be Aloe Vera softly applied to the wounds.
The propaganda machine is in full swing but the Western World has cried: "Wolf!" too many times and their people are getting sick of it.
What about a Diplomatic Mission, consisting of the UN "5", popping over and offering some solutions to the problems within Syria. A little trade may be all that is required and could include a softening in the stance with Israel as well. Time to add many colours to a black-and-white picture...
Plenty to pick over with that little lot.....:)
if i had to guess, he'll get the votes in congress. it'll be close, but he'll get there.
that, IMHO, is when he needs to take it to the UN.
It does not matter if he gets a vote in Congress or not,he is still going to bomb Syria just like he has bombed Pakistan,Somalia,Yemen,Afghanistan....and this guy got the Nobel peace prize..ha ha
After that he should stage impromptu photo-ops with all the Republicans who voted for it thanking them for their support and bipartisan cooperation.Quote:
Originally Posted by raycarey
And then kick back and watch them spend all their campaign cash fighting off primary challenges from infuriated teabaggers for daring to give him something he wanted. :)
In this case, among others, it's probably the best policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Next up, "Operation keep yer Big Nose out".
I'll be surprised if Congress votes in favor of military action. And I'll be shocked if it's even close. We're in a period of time when the politicians know the people are weary of these ME foreign adventures.
No matter how they vote this is win-win for Obama.
How do you figure that? Already he's being castigated for being a waffler - hence the title of his next plan: Operation Enduring Hesitation. :rofl:
Heh...this Barry Soetero divided against himself can't stand...
Victor Davis Hanson: Obama Indicts Obama.
One of the problems that Barack Obama has in mounting an attack against the Assad regime is that the gambit violates every argument Barack Obama used against the Bush administration to establish his own anti-war candidacy.
The hypocrisy is so stunning that it infuriates his critics and stuns his supporters.
Deriding the Iraq war was Obama’s signature selling point. He used it to great effect against both Hillary Clinton (who voted for the war) in the Democratic primaries and John McCain in the general election. For the last five years, disparagement of “Iraq” and “Bush” has seemed to intrude into almost every sentence the president utters.
And now? His sudden pro-war stance makes a number of hypocritical assumptions."
Well, yes, it sure does...:mid:
^ If anything history will judge him guilty of weakening the office of the President. Nobody of significance cares about the waffler banter.
You one of Obama's Fanboys, stores?
Like this guy?
Steve Rattner: We should attack Syria because if we don’t Obama will look silly.
Rightly or wrongly, POTUS drew red line over chemical weapons in #Syria. No way we can back off now.
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Steven Rattner (@SteveRattner) September 01, 2013
if anything, the power assumed by the executive branch has become too strong over the last few decades--particularly from 2000-2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storekeeper
i support anything that will bring us back to equal branches of government.
Operation Enduring Hesitation brought to you by...
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:rofl:
Isn't the moonbats turnaround amazing? Not long ago he posted this cartoon in the political cartoons thread.
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