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    SS is and always has been a Ponzi scheme which never should have been enacted in the first place. Only reason it was is that pinko Franklin Roosevelt pushed it through. Instead of workers and employers being forced into this scam, a better method for saving towards retirement would be private accounts.

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    It's called investment- something I'm quite familiar with, and it has worked real well for the rest of our nations booner. But of course amerka is exceptional- how can we doubt that, now that we've witnessed your people falling being the rest of the G20 for so many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    SS is and always has been a Ponzi scheme
    Good god you are clueless. SS is solvent and has been since its inception. It has been jeopardized buy loons from the right who have stolen form its rich honey pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    SS is and always has been a Ponzi scheme
    Good god you are clueless. SS is solvent and has been since its inception. It has been jeopardized buy loons from the right who have stolen form its rich honey pot.
    It's a house of cards and due to become insolvent sooner than you think with all the freeloaders sucking on the tit.

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    The house of cards proved to be corporate pension schemes, and the freeloaders sucking on them company executives, plundering employee retirement funds for corporate coffers. Should definitely keep the Trustee of such funds away from the company, and the company unable to get their hands on what is not theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The house of cards proved to be corporate pension schemes, and the freeloaders sucking on them company executives, plundering employee retirement funds for corporate coffers. Should definitely keep the Trustee of such funds away from the company, and the company unable to get their hands on what is not theirs.
    Well, for example, we suppose the city of Detroit's demise was due to corporate plundering?

    No, it was the result of good, old fashioned pigs at the trough Democrats plundering the city workers pension plans.


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    ^ Got like, maybe a link to substantiate your claim?

    Detroit is a victim of your beloved free market capitalism.

    The city, built on auto manufacturing, was doomed when those jobs were shipped overseas. Detroit, along many other former manufacturing giants, is struggling to reinvent itself in an economy where manufacturing jobs continue to dwindle.

    President Obama recognized the importance of the US Auto Industry to the overall economy and offered the big three a controversial bailout in 2009. It's worked out better than expected, wouldn't you agree Booners?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Well, for example, we suppose the city of Detroit's demise was due to corporate plundering?
    Yes it was. Corporapist plundering that was encouraged by NAFTA and outsourcing. Your heroes both Georges and Reagan were in favor of outsourcing. It started with Ronny and ended with GWB. Unions are just the typical scapegoats.

    How Reagan Sold The United States Piece By Piece
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    ^ Got like, maybe a link to substantiate your claim?
    Detroit is a victim of your beloved free market capitalism.
    Negative.

    Detroit is victim to 30+ years of Democrat corruption.

    Read any number of the factual posts that spell out in graphic detail how that former great city has been brought to its knees by generations of Union Thuggery:

    http://teakdoor.com/world-news/13047...collapses.html (Detroit Collapses..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Detroit is victim to 30+ years of Democrat corruption.
    That is way too simplistic.

    "Democrat corruption" didn't force the auto makers to build shitty cars that nobody wanted to buy and it didn't cause the replacement of humans by robots on the production lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Detroit is victim to 30+ years of Democrat corruption.
    That is way too simplistic.

    "Democrat corruption" didn't force the auto makers to build shitty cars that nobody wanted to buy and it didn't cause the replacement of humans by robots on the production lines.
    That's true but the main point is the city was controlled by the Democrat Machine. If you look at every State (maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) that has/had a Democrat running the show, they are either bankrupt or so far in debt compared to right-to-work States like Texas.

    WA is an exception due to its tech industry & areospace.

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    A pretty good video on the massive, and worsening wealth inequality in the US.




    Bringing back a modest inheritance tax should be a slam dunk, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    If you look at every State (maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) that has/had a Democrat running the show, they are either bankrupt or so far in debt compared to right-to-work States like Texas.
    Complete nonsense. Most RTW states are federal welfare states that mooch more then they contribute. Also the workers are far less efficient. Boeing Charleston has been a huge failure for Boeing. They can't even make three 787 a month more like one a month. That is pathetic. These states are typical right wing hypocrites they pass these laws because they are bottom feeders that cant compete otherwise and they still take handouts from the Federal government. Red state socialism.

    Loser mooch RTW states here;

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    These states are typical right wing hypocrites they pass these laws because they are bottom feeders that cant compete otherwise and they still take handouts from the Federal government. Red state socialism.
    Red state hypocrites.

    That chart has been bouncing around for almost a decade now and I have never seen a GOPer address the points it raises apart from 'Oh but Texas and Florida!"

    Yeah, one has oil and a huge military infrastructure and the other is a massive tourist and retirement destination. Deduct those things and they are Somalia with worse roads.

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    Texas is poor compared with Norway, another place with oil, plus socialism and adequate taxes. The main reason corporations are attracted to Texas is that land costs little. The governor of the place is arguably the most corrupt individual in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Texas is poor compared with Norway, another place with oil, plus socialism and adequate taxes. The main reason corporations are attracted to Texas is that land costs little. The governor of the place is arguably the most corrupt individual in America.
    How many Quislings in Texas though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    Texas is poor compared with Norway
    Texas is poor compared to most states other US states. They are ranked 46 out of 50 states regarding poverty level by income the only states below it are Alabama, New Mexico, Louisiana and Mississippi. All of whom happen to be RTW states.

    Texas has a massive degree of income disparity and the poor there has little chance of being able to lift themselves out of poverty. It is a true shithole and far from an example of the supposed success of RTW as a law. More like an affirmation of its failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Texas is poor compared with Norway, another place with oil, plus socialism and adequate taxes. The main reason corporations are attracted to Texas is that land costs little. The governor of the place is arguably the most corrupt individual in America.
    How many Quislings in Texas though...
    Bush? Perry?

    You should enjoy this Aljazeera docu that compares Texas, New York, and California, three experiments of what could be the best way for all of America. Aired earlier this week, mint new.

    Boon Mee: 'Israel is the 51st State. De facto - but none the less, essentially part & parcel of the USA.'

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    ^ Excellent Doc RW!

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    Quote of the Day
    “In 2012 the CEO of Walmart made $20.7 million. Walmart has about 2 million employees (as far as I can tell, this is only counting the employees in the American stores). So, if you divided the CEO’s entire pay among the employees they’d each get $10.35 more per year- that’s not quite 20 cents per week; a half a cent per hour for full time employees. Woohoo.

    Now, look at a paystub and see how much the various governments” steal from every paycheck, and then tell me who the real parasite is.”


    Indeed

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    The family that controls Walmart has more financial wealth than the bottom 40% of all Americans. For those that cannot count, that is over 100,000,000 US citizens- disgusting.
    Game, set & match. The CEO is not a Walton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The family that controls Walmart has more financial wealth than the bottom 40% of all Americans. For those that cannot count, that is over 100,000,000 US citizens- disgusting.
    Game, set & match. The CEO is not a Walton.
    I have more financial wealth than the bottom 25% of Americans by that yardstick (BTW, the quote by Jeffrey Goldberg was originally 30%- the Walton's don't have more than the bottom 40%). 25% of Americans have zero or negative net worth (many of them are young college graduates with loans to pay off), so anyone with a positive balance has a relative 'high standing' as far as finances go- it's a very misleading statistic in the context in which it was presented.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    Oh yeh?

    Outrage: The Walton Family is Wealthier than the Bottom 42% of Americans Combined

    “The Walton family, which owns Wal-Mart, controls a fortune equal to the wealth of the bottom 42 percent of Americans combined.”

    That is quite a claim, and one that Liberals are very familiar with.

    Unfortunately for the American people, Politifact.com did a fact check, and found the claim to be true.

    Full article- Outrage: The Walton Family is Wealthier than the Bottom 42% of Americans Combined

    According to Forbes, the richest six Walton heirs have a combined wealth of some $144,000,000,000, they are ranked as the richest family in the world, certainly the US.

    The questions that arise should not be levelled at the Walton heirs individually, they are more generic.
    Such as-
    1- Walmart has more employees on government welfare, such as food stamps, than any other US employer. What the heck is with that?
    2- Why have the fiscally disastrous tax cuts for the richest americans & corporations not been repealed? They failed, woefully.
    3- Why has an Inheritance Tax for the richest Americans, cancelled under dubya, not been reinstated?
    4- Why are tax rates for the already wealthy- the lowest in living memory- not adjusted, when your government is sliding towards insolvency, and a good deal of your country is suffering?
    5- In real terms, much of the USA middle class is earning no more, or even less, now than was the case in the 1980's. Yet the richest 1% are their richest and most cashed up ever. Why?
    6- Corporations are their most profitable and cashed up ever- yet the US minimum wage has not risen for over five years. Why?
    7- Ditto Corporate tax rates.

    Perhaps as a nation, you need to explore and get a handle on the concepts of nationality, citizenship, patriotism, shared fortune and heritage, and ultimately being stakeholders in the same vessel.

    Right now your wealthy, and the political hacks that they pay for, resemble rats abandoning a sinking ship. So much for Patriotism.
    What difference would it make to the next generation of Walton heirs (etc) if there were, say, a 10% Inheritance tax on their individual inheritances in excess of $10,000,000?
    What difference could that make to other US citizens, their opportunities and quality of life? Seems to me you've got it all screwed up, naked short sighted Greed.
    And thus, you are ruining your own market, economy, your own middle class, and individual opportunities- those things that made you great in the first place.
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    100 million are 30% of the American citizens, Sabang made an honest mistake. I don't see how your explanation makes the situation look better, but if you wish, 4 individuals of the Walton family have more net worth than 80 million Americans in debt, and 20 million Americans with savings combined. 4 vs 20,000,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    100 million are 30% of the American citizens, Sabang made an honest mistake.
    well, no- I go by 250mm folk as the number of US citizens. 40% = 100mm.
    if you go by 300mm as the US pop'n, then sure- 40% = 120mm folk. But I'd rather understate than overstate, hyperbole does not extend ones case.
    I suppose i could go the full 42% of 300mm, but what difference does a few million poor people make?

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