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    Hence why I said hiding behind a shield. Maybe you should research some videos of people very close to the Clintons during their days in Arkansas. Oh wait I remember you saying you would read nothing that might sway you against what your masters have crammed into your head, so never mind you just keep living in your bubble.
    Innuendo Innuendo Innuendo.

    Why don't you look that word up in a dictionary?
    Why don't you watch the video in post 3984?
    I watch Fox News you idiot, how else would I know what ridiculous nonsense you keep blathering about?
    Now now Harry getting personal again , you was a Fox News's Megyn Kelly fan not long ago when she was tearing a strip off the Donald when he took the hump and refused to be questioned by her
    And how does that exclude her spouting shit on her TV show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    ^
    I read it. More unsubstantiated accusations, but PeaNuts still continues to post this shit as if it meant something.
    To you and your libtard buddies, who insist on ignoring the truth, it may mean nothing, to right thinking people it says a lot.
    That's because you're gullible enough to believe any old bullshit from Fox News et al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    I read it. More unsubstantiated accusations, but PeaNuts still continues to post this shit as if it meant something.
    To you and your libtard buddies, who insist on ignoring the truth, it may mean nothing, to right thinking people it says a lot.
    That's because you're gullible enough to believe any old bullshit from Fox News et al.
    No because I have the experience of living through the decades of the Clintons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    No because I have the experience of living through the decades of the Clintons.
    The best eight years under Clinton who left America with a budget surplus and a strong economy only to have that completely destroyed by the worst president in American history George W Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    No because I have the experience of living through the decades of the Clintons.
    The best eight years under Clinton who left America with a budget surplus and a strong economy only to have that completely destroyed by the worst president in American history George W Bush.
    Agree.

    But about the wost President in history, you think Polk wasn't the worst?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    No because I have the experience of living through the decades of the Clintons.
    The best eight years under Clinton who left America with a budget surplus and a strong economy only to have that completely destroyed by the worst president in American history George W Bush.
    And the state Clinton left the nation in excuses all the corruption?Maybe we should have a mafia boss for president.

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    Not a lot to recommend her for POTUS is there? The Hillary Clinton Scandals

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Not a lot to recommend her for POTUS is there? The Hillary Clinton Scandals
    At least he's honest....

    As a European observer who has more in common with the Democrats, it's hoped that this largely condemnatory article will be an objective investigation of the real Hillary Clinton.
    ... but I don't think he quite knows the definition of "objective" when he uses the word "condemnatory".


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    A good analysis of why things don't change.

    Bernie Sanders’ Phantom Movement
    Posted on Feb 14, 2016
    By Chris Hedges

    Bernie Sanders, who has attracted numerous young, white, college-educated supporters in his bid for the presidency, says he is creating a movement and promises a political revolution. This rhetoric is an updated version of the “change” promised by the 2008 campaign of Barack Obama and by Jesse Jackson’s earlier National Rainbow Coalition. Such Democratic electoral campaigns, at best, raise political consciousness. But they do not become movements or engender revolutions. They exist as long as election campaigns endure and then they vanish. Sanders’ campaign will be no different.

    No movement or political revolution will ever be built within the confines of the Democratic Party. And the repeated failure of the American left to grasp the duplicitous game being played by the political elites has effectively neutered it as a political force. History, after all, should count for something.

    The Democrats, like the Republicans, have no interest in genuine reform. They are wedded to corporate power. They are about appearance, not substance. They speak in the language of democracy, even liberal reform and populism, but doggedly block campaign finance reform and promote an array of policies, including new trade agreements, that disempower workers. They rig the elections, not only with money but also with so-called superdelegates—more than 700 delegates who are unbound among a total of more than 4,700 at the Democratic convention. Sanders may have received 60 percent of the vote in New Hampshire, but he came away with fewer of the state’s delegates than Clinton. This is a harbinger of the campaign to come.
    Chris Hedges: Bernie Sanders? Phantom Movement - Chris Hedges - Truthdig

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    And the state Clinton left the nation in excuses all the corruption?
    What corruption are you speaking of.

    Skip the unfounded accusations. Facts, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    No because I have the experience of living through the decades of the Clintons.
    The best eight years under Clinton who left America with a budget surplus and a strong economy only to have that completely destroyed by the worst president in American history George W Bush.
    And the state Clinton left the nation in excuses all the corruption?Maybe we should have a mafia boss for president.
    You have blinders on.

    Explain.
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    Innuendo Innuendo Innuendo.

    Why don't you look that word up in a dictionary?
    Why don't you watch the video in post 3984?
    I watch Fox News you idiot, how else would I know what ridiculous nonsense you keep blathering about?
    Now now Harry getting personal again , you was a Fox News's Megyn Kelly fan not long ago when she was tearing a strip off the Donald when he took the hump and refused to be questioned by her
    And how does that exclude her spouting shit on her TV show?
    Of course you have proof that what was discussed on her show in post 3984 about the Clinton foundation was a load of crap then? looking forward to reading it , Your move This was what was discussed in the so called Fox crap show in my post 3984 , Ok you know far far more the the New York times eh http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...pany.html?_r=0
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    Just another Article Harry that adds credence to what was discussed on Fox's Megyn Kelly talk show in my post 3984 which you describe as crap without a shred of evidence to back your blathering's up ?Clinton Cash? author demolishes Hillary?s self-defense | New York Post

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    I think that story was stillborn.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Republican Clinton Cash Scandal Collapses Before The Book Is Even Released

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    ^^ You and RPeter need to stop using opinion pieces, blogs, and videos when you are offering no opinion yourselves. Insisting other posters comment on the opinion of writers or video makers not participating on this forum over and over is asinine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^ You and RPeter need to stop using opinion pieces, blogs, and videos when you are offering no opinion yourselves. Insisting other posters comment on the opinion of writers or video makers not participating on this forum over and over is asinine.
    You mean that posting articles from the New York Times and New York Post and agreeing with them, plus agreeing with Another poster (not RPeter) that in my view too Hilarous is a pathological liar is not having an opinion of my own ? and I do not insist on anything ,all I do is request that they prove that the article or video I post is as they say a load of crap .

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    ^ Those are opinion pieces, not news articles. Look where it says OPINION at the top of the item.

    That means it is the OPINION of a writer. Not gospel. Not news. An OPINION.

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    ^^It like this. (This is not an opinion piece. This is fact.)

    Rebut everything they said, Piwi and RPETER.


    PRAISE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

    Kissinger, Henry (Secretary of State under Pres. Nixon and Pres. Ford, National Security Advisor under Pres. Nixon and Pres. Ford)

    Sec. Kissinger, on Sec. Clinton: “I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect.” According to USA Today, “Nearly 40 years since he left appointed office, Kissinger still can provoke controversy. Hillary Rodham Clinton, another former secretary of State, wrote a favorable review of his new book in Sunday’s Washington Post. ‘The World According to Henry Kissinger,’ it was titled, and an enormous photo of Kissinger’s face filled most of the page. ‘I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect,’ he says of Clinton. ‘And she ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.’ More effectively than he did? ‘Yes,’ he says with a smile. ‘I was more chaotic.’” [USA Today, 9/9/14]

    Sec. Kissinger, on Sec. Clinton: “She ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.” According to USA Today, “Nearly 40 years since he left appointed office, Kissinger still can provoke controversy. Hillary Rodham Clinton, another former secretary of State, wrote a favorable review of his new book in Sunday’s Washington Post. ‘The World According to Henry Kissinger,’ it was titled, and an enormous photo of Kissinger’s face filled most of the page. ‘I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect,’ he says of Clinton. ‘And she ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.’ More effectively than he did? ‘Yes,’ he says with a smile. ‘I was more chaotic.’” [USA Today, 9/9/14]

    Sec. Kissinger: “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” [NPR, 9/8/14]

    Sec. Kissinger: “She’d [Sec. Clinton would] put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” [NPR, 9/8/14]

    “Republicans praised the prospect of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Sunday. Former Nixon and Ford Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Sunday that Clinton would be an ‘outstanding’ selection. ‘She is a lady of great intelligence, demonstrated enormous determination and would be an outstanding appointment,’ Kissinger told the World Economic Forum’s India Economic Summit in New Delhi, according to Bloomberg News.” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    “I think of Hillary with admiration and affection. . . When I call Mrs. Clinton ‘Hillary,’ I do that not so much to indicate familiarity but to use a name that the whole world uses. It shows to what extent she has succeeded in her people-to-people work.” – Henry Kissinger, Former National Security Adviser and Secretary of State for President Nixon and President Ford [Washington Post, 5/3/13]

    Rice, Condoleezza (Secretary of State under Pres. Bush, earlier National Security Advisor for Pres. Bush)

    “No, look, it’s a unique situation. I think we all see that it’s unique. But my successor, Hillary Clinton, is an extremely talented woman. She is a woman of integrity. She believes in this country deeply. We’ve already had a couple of conversations. I know her from the time she brought her freshman daughter to Stanford for the first time when I was Provost. And she’s going to do this very well.” [Meet the Press, 12/21/08]

    “Former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said her successor, Hillary Clinton, has done a ‘fine’ job. It’s the overall strategy of the Obama administration, Rice said, that has led the U.S. astray. ‘I think she’s done a fine job. The problem isn’t Hilary Clinton, who’s great,’ Rice told members of Ohio’s delegation to the Republican National Convention. ‘The problem is that we’ve chosen to speak with a muted voice about America’s role in the world. We’ve chosen to try to lead from behind. That’s an oxymoron in my mind.’” [NBCnews.com, 8/12/13]

    Ridge, Tom (Homeland Security Secretary)

    The Hill: Former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge said he always had “productive’” meetings with Sec. Clinton when he was in the Cabinet. “Ridge also offered some praise for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying he always had ‘productive’ meetings with her when he was in the Cabinet and she was a senator. He said a Bush versus Clinton match-up would be ‘almost a clash of titans,’ leading to a campaign that is ‘tough, rigorous, and hopefully, for the first time in a long time, civil.’” [Ballot Box, The Hill, 2/3/15]

    GOVERNORS

    Bush, Jeb (Florida Governor)

    “Hillary Rodham Clinton, who many believe can win the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, if she wants it, is the winner of the 2013 Liberty Medal. The award is to be presented Sept. 10 to Clinton by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, chairman of the National Constitution Center and a possible contender for the 2016 Republican nomination. Politics aside, Bush praised Clinton in a statement released Thursday announcing her selection. ‘Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in democracy,’ Bush said. ‘These efforts as a citizen, an activist, and a leader have earned Secretary Clinton this year’s Liberty Medal.’” [Philadelphia Inquirer, 7/28/13; Constitution Center press release, 6/27/13]

    Daniels, Mitch (former Governor of Indiana and current President of Purdue University)

    Gov. Mitch Daniels: “She is comprehensively experienced and has advantages that some of the other contenders would have to scramble to match in terms of her exposure to the world and… foreign policy.” FORMER GOV. MITCH DANIELS, Republican Indiana: Well both [Governors Scott Walker and Chris Christie] very courageous. Everybody you’ve asked me about so far, the common denominator is these are doers. They didn’t mark time. They’ve attempted, at least as best as I understand it, to tackle the very different problems of their very different states. And that is not a complete portfolio for someone who would be president, but it certainly is a useful attribute and one, of course, that has often been rewarded by the American people. >> MARK HALPERIN: how would Hillary Clinton do by the standards you’ve laid out for what we need in the next president? >> GOV. DANIELS: She is comprehensively experienced and has advantages that some of the other contenders would have to scramble to match in terms of her exposure to the world and many of the tough issues we are facing in foreign policy. >> JOHN HEILEMANN: Do you think she’d be a uniter as well as, in the same way as, you mentioned Jeb Bush governing as a uniter. Do you think Hillary Clinton would be a united? GOV. DAVIELS: One could hope so. I mean it’s a matter of choice really… [Bloomberg’s With All Due Respect, 2/5/15]

    Huckabee, Mike (former Governor of Arkansas and attempted presidential candidate in 2008)

    Gov. Mike Huckabee: “I would have great respect for the formidable nature of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy.” S.E. CUPP: Well, I think the fact that there are so many potential contenders speak volumes about the idea of running against someone like Hillary Clinton. It doesn’t seem like anyone is all that intimidated by her. Do you find her intimidating as a potential opponent if you run? >> MIKE HUCKABEE: I think everyone would be an intimidating opponent. The only way to really run is either unopposed or scared. Those are the two options that you have as a candidate and so I don’t expect that any of us as Republicans will run unopposed. We better run scared and if I were to be fortunate enough to get the nomination, I would have great respect for the formidable nature of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. Now, I don’t think she has the connected quality that her husband has. She’s more the policy wonk, the ideologue, less that incredible connector with people that Bill Clinton is. And I’ve known them both for a long time. I don’t think there’s anybody on the Republican side who might run for president who would have a better understanding of the Clintons than I would and maybe understand the background and so on but even having said that, Hillary Clinton is a rock star within the Democratic Party. But it’s interesting that while all the Democrats expected to run and most of them say they will support her, I am not convinced, first of all that she will pull the trigger when she has to and run, probably will, but maybe not. And if she does, I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion that she is the nominee or certainly not that she is elected president. I don’t think she will be elected president and let me say why when people say that well it’s inevitable. It was inevitable for Hillary Clinton to be the nominee in 2008 and this relatively unknown upstart junior senator who had sponsored zero legislation in his senate career, brief as it was, his name Barack Obama, came up and beat her, so let’s let recent history be a guide to what the future may hold. >> [CSPAN2’s BookTV Programming. 1/25/15]



    Gov. Mike Huckabee described Sec. Clinton as “smart” and “tough.” According to Real Clear Politics, “Huckabee says the environment for him now is very different than it was in 2008 (when he ran) and 2012 (when he thought doing so). He said he has stronger name identification and donors. He recently launched a political action committee. He insisted that he would do a good job showing what the party is for, not what it is against — a criticism of and a challenge for the GOP. Among the other credentials he listed for himself is his familiarity with Hillary Clinton. When asked about the Democrat’s potential run for the White House, Huckabee said no Republican knows her better than he does, given their Arkansas connections. He described her as ‘smart’ and ‘tough,’ and cautioned that she should never be underestimated. ‘She’s a policy genius,’ he said. ‘But I don’t know if she has that same affable charm that her husband does. But then, who does?’” [Real Clear Politics, 9/15/14]

    Gov. Mike Huckabee, on Sec. Clinton: “She’s a policy genius.” According to Real Clear Politics, “Huckabee says the environment for him now is very different than it was in 2008 (when he ran) and 2012 (when he thought doing so). He said he has stronger name identification and donors. He recently launched a political action committee. He insisted that he would do a good job showing what the party is for, not what it is against — a criticism of and a challenge for the GOP. Among the other credentials he listed for himself is his familiarity with Hillary Clinton. When asked about the Democrat’s potential run for the White House, Huckabee said no Republican knows her better than he does, given their Arkansas connections. He described her as ‘smart’ and ‘tough,’ and cautioned that she should never be underestimated. ‘She’s a policy genius,’ he said. ‘But I don’t know if she has that same affable charm that her husband does. But then, who does?’” [Real Clear Politics, 9/15/14]

    Huntsman, Jon (Utah Governor, later U.S. Ambassador to China)

    “It’s way too soon to tell. I’ve worked around Hillary Clinton while serving as ambassador to China, and all I can tell you as a Republican is she’s pretty good. She’s smart. She’s hardworking. She – she relates to all kinds of people, and I was very, very impressed working with her as a Republican. The Republican Party, as we always see in history, and these political tides, as Theodore White used to talk about, are inexorable and we’ll see them come in and come out and people will rise based upon the occasion and the circumstances that we face. And I have every belief that in a free market, which politics is for the most part, we’ll see the right kind of people step up before 2016.” [Bloomberg TV, 9/27/13]

    Kasich, John (Governor of Ohio)

    John Kasich on Hillary Clinton: “I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her.” BRET BAIER: How do you think Republicans fight a Hillary Clinton nomination? >> GOV. JOHN KASICH: I don’t think you have to run against her. I think you run for what you’re for. I think you create a vision for people that everybody is included. Everyone can rise. And we’ll be personally responsible here. So with Hillary, you know I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her. They have cameras out following me around places where I go. They think I’m going to make a mistake. And you know, maybe I will. I’m as capable of that as anybody is. >> BAIER: So they have cameras following events? >> GOV. KASICH: Oh yeah. They go out and they got these trackers. BAIER: The Clinton people? GOV. KASICH: It’s called American Bridge. I don’t know who they all are. I like Hillary but look, the bottom line is you need tell people what you’re for. You can say where they have fallen down. But you need to be very clear in the things that you want to do and paint a vision. >> [fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier, 1/22/15]

    John Kasich: “I like Hillary.” BRET BAIER: How do you think Republicans fight a Hillary Clinton nomination? >> GOV. JOHN KASICH: I don’t think you have to run against her. I think you run for what you’re for. I think you create a vision for people that everybody is included. Everyone can rise. And we’ll be personally responsible here. So with Hillary, you know I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her. They have cameras out following me around places where I go. They think I’m going to make a mistake. And you know, maybe I will. I’m as capable of that as anybody is. >> BAIER: So they have cameras following events? >> GOV. KASICH: Oh yeah. They go out and they got these trackers. BAIER: The Clinton people? GOV. KASICH: It’s called American Bridge. I don’t know who they all are. I like Hillary but look, the bottom line is you need tell people what you’re for. You can say where they have fallen down. But you need to be very clear in the things that you want to do and paint a vision. >> [fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier, 1/22/15]

    Perry, Rick

    Gov. Perry, on Sec. Clinton’s stance on Syria: “I think on that issue she was closer to being right than she has been on some other ones.” According to the U.S. News & World Report, “Rick Perry agrees with Hillary Clinton. Or at least, pretty close to it. Asked Tuesday at the Iowa State Fair whether he agreed with the former secretary of state’s assessment that a lack of prior U.S. intervention in Syria emboldened jihadists to penetrate Iraq, the GOP governor of Texas found some daylight with the potential future presidential rival. ‘I think on that issue she was closer to being right than she has been on some other ones,’ he replied.” [U.S. News & World Report, 8/12/14]

    According to The Frontrunner, “The Daily Caller (8/30, Levinson, May) reported that in 1993, then-Texas Agriculture Commissioner Rick Perry ‘praised the efforts of then-first lady Hillary Clinton to reform health care, a precursor to’ the ‘health care reform efforts’ of President Obama. The Daily Caller added, ‘In a letter to Clinton…Perry wrote: ‘I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation’s health care system are most commendable.’ ‘I would like to request that the task force give particular consideration to the needs of the nation’s farmers, ranchers, and agriculture workers, and other members of rural communities,’ Perry continued. … ‘Again, your efforts are worthy,’ Perry concluded, ‘and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses.’” [The Frontrunner, 8/31/11]

    Schwarzenegger, Arnold (California Governor)

    “Also on Sunday, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the potential choice as a great move. ‘I think she is a very very bright woman and very experienced. I think this could be a great move,’ Schwarzenegger told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    HOUSE

    Blackburn, Marsha (Tennessee Representative)

    “On CNN’s Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn said Clinton would be a good fit for the position. ‘I think that Hillary Clinton will probably accept that, from what I am hearing. I think it would be a nice gesture. I think that she is well qualified,” said the Republican congresswoman.’” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    Duncan, Jeff (South Carolina Representative)

    Rep. Jeff Duncan: The Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement “opened up a million and a half acres in the Gulf of Mexico.” REP. JEFF DUNCAN, (R) South Carolina, 3rd District: That shell in deep water, I was to be part of implementing one thing I think the Obama Administration got right. You don’t hear that come out of a conservative’s mouth very often. The one thing the Obama Administration got right was a Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement signed with Mexico by Hillary Clinton in a summit in Cabo. It’s a mouth-full. I realize that. The Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement. It opened up a million and a half acres in the Gulf of Mexico. If you can think about a boundary between the United States and Mexico you think about that border in Texas and New Mexico, think about a maritime border or a maritime boundary, that border extending out into the Gulf of Mexico where we have territorial waters on the Mexican side and territorial waters on the U.S. side. Well under that maritime boundary are recoverable resources and for a long time that million and a half acres in that what they call the Western Gap part of the Gulf of Mexico was off limits. Nobody was producing. Mexico wasn’t producing, U.S. wasn’t producing. So they signed this Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement said we’re going to allow that area to be produced. We’re going to allow those shared resources to be produced we’re going to share resources, technology, we’re going to share some of the regulations. Well, once they signed that agreement, we asked Ken Salazar, the Secretary of the Interior at the time, how about sending us the implementing language so we could implement that agreement. We would like to open up a million and a half acres of deep water in the Western Gulf to energy production because we believe there’s recoverable resources there that could go into that national security energy mix on American energy independence. He wouldn’t send us the implementing language. So after about a year of that Doc Hastings and I and a number of others on the committee working to get that I decided to write it myself… [CSPAN3, 1/20/15]



    Grimm, Michael

    Rep. Michael Grimm: “I think it’s going to be very difficult for the Republicans to beat Hillary Clinton.” According to the Staten Island Advance, “The election is still two years away, and a lot can change in that time, but GOP Rep. Michael Grimm said he already knows who the most formidable Democratic candidate will be: Hillary Clinton. ‘I think it’s going to be very difficult for the Republicans to beat Hillary Clinton,’ Grimm (R-Staten Island/Brooklyn) told the Advance Editorial Board, where he appeared with Democratic challenger Domenic M. Recchia Jr. ‘So I think that a lot of work has got to go into it.’” [Staten Island Advance, 10/23/14]

    King, Peter (New York Representative)

    BANFIELD: I wonder if you think that the former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton’s comments about the secretary, and in my words, faking an illness, in his words, having a diplomatic illness to beat the band, are deserving of an apology.

    KING: I certainly wouldn’t have said it, especially knowing Hillary Clinton and what a tough warrior she is. To me, there’s never a basis for that. Even if I didn’t agree with someone, you should always give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a health issue. The only thing I’d say in Bolton’s defense, and I’m being sarcastic when I say this — it is hard for me to imagine Hillary Clinton ever being sick. She’s one of the strongest people I’ve ever met in my life. But obviously, she was ill. It could have been serious. It wasn’t, thank god. And I would not have said what the Ambassador Bolton did. How he wants to handle it with her, that’s up to him. But I’m just delighted —

    BANFIELD: Do you think he should apologize, Congressman? That was pretty serious —

    KING: Oh, I would.

    BANFIELD: — I mean, pretty serious, very, very strident comments.

    KING: Again, all I would say is I would — if I was the one who said it, I would.

    [CNN, 1/3/13]
    Ryan, Paul (Wisconsin Representative, 2012 Republican Vice Presidential Nominee)

    Rep. Paul Ryan: “She’s [Sec. Clinton’s] very formidable. She’ll raise a lot money, she has a lot of name ID.” According to the Tampa Bay Times, “Republicans need not be cowed by the prospect of taking on Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016, said U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, one of the leading Republican contenders to do just that. ‘She’s very formidable. She’ll raise a lot money, she has a lot of name ID,’ the Wisconsin native and former Republican vice presidential nominee said during a stop in Tampa Bay to promote his new book. ‘But I think Hillary Clinton is very beatable because a Hillary Clinton presidency is basically the same thing as an Obama third term. I don’t think she’ll be able to shake that.’” [Tampa Bay Times, 8/24/14]

    more here Correct The Record | Praise for Hillary Clinton



    Now tell us why each of these people are wrong.

    This is what you are asking of others except you are using opinion pieces and vids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ Those are opinion pieces, not news articles. Look where it says OPINION at the top of the item.

    That means it is the OPINION of a writer. Not gospel. Not news. An OPINION.
    I never claimed any were that they was news articles although I do suggest you read both articles from the NYT and the NYP cos the Uranium deal went through and slick Willy did get 500,000 for opening his gob in Russia this has never been denied , but having an opinion given out to the Worlds media that could well be construed as libellous and can be proved wrong in a court of law is a very unwise undertaking for any one , and to say that RP does not have an opinion on the Clintons is quite frankly laughable .

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^It like this. (This is not an opinion piece. This is fact.)

    Rebut everything they said, Piwi and RPETER.


    PRAISE FOR HILLARY CLINTON

    Kissinger, Henry (Secretary of State under Pres. Nixon and Pres. Ford, National Security Advisor under Pres. Nixon and Pres. Ford)

    Sec. Kissinger, on Sec. Clinton: “I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect.” According to USA Today, “Nearly 40 years since he left appointed office, Kissinger still can provoke controversy. Hillary Rodham Clinton, another former secretary of State, wrote a favorable review of his new book in Sunday’s Washington Post. ‘The World According to Henry Kissinger,’ it was titled, and an enormous photo of Kissinger’s face filled most of the page. ‘I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect,’ he says of Clinton. ‘And she ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.’ More effectively than he did? ‘Yes,’ he says with a smile. ‘I was more chaotic.’” [USA Today, 9/9/14]

    Sec. Kissinger, on Sec. Clinton: “She ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.” According to USA Today, “Nearly 40 years since he left appointed office, Kissinger still can provoke controversy. Hillary Rodham Clinton, another former secretary of State, wrote a favorable review of his new book in Sunday’s Washington Post. ‘The World According to Henry Kissinger,’ it was titled, and an enormous photo of Kissinger’s face filled most of the page. ‘I’ve known her for many years now, and I respect her intellect,’ he says of Clinton. ‘And she ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.’ More effectively than he did? ‘Yes,’ he says with a smile. ‘I was more chaotic.’” [USA Today, 9/9/14]

    Sec. Kissinger: “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” [NPR, 9/8/14]

    Sec. Kissinger: “She’d [Sec. Clinton would] put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” [NPR, 9/8/14]

    “Republicans praised the prospect of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Sunday. Former Nixon and Ford Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Sunday that Clinton would be an ‘outstanding’ selection. ‘She is a lady of great intelligence, demonstrated enormous determination and would be an outstanding appointment,’ Kissinger told the World Economic Forum’s India Economic Summit in New Delhi, according to Bloomberg News.” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    “I think of Hillary with admiration and affection. . . When I call Mrs. Clinton ‘Hillary,’ I do that not so much to indicate familiarity but to use a name that the whole world uses. It shows to what extent she has succeeded in her people-to-people work.” – Henry Kissinger, Former National Security Adviser and Secretary of State for President Nixon and President Ford [Washington Post, 5/3/13]

    Rice, Condoleezza (Secretary of State under Pres. Bush, earlier National Security Advisor for Pres. Bush)

    “No, look, it’s a unique situation. I think we all see that it’s unique. But my successor, Hillary Clinton, is an extremely talented woman. She is a woman of integrity. She believes in this country deeply. We’ve already had a couple of conversations. I know her from the time she brought her freshman daughter to Stanford for the first time when I was Provost. And she’s going to do this very well.” [Meet the Press, 12/21/08]

    “Former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said her successor, Hillary Clinton, has done a ‘fine’ job. It’s the overall strategy of the Obama administration, Rice said, that has led the U.S. astray. ‘I think she’s done a fine job. The problem isn’t Hilary Clinton, who’s great,’ Rice told members of Ohio’s delegation to the Republican National Convention. ‘The problem is that we’ve chosen to speak with a muted voice about America’s role in the world. We’ve chosen to try to lead from behind. That’s an oxymoron in my mind.’” [NBCnews.com, 8/12/13]

    Ridge, Tom (Homeland Security Secretary)

    The Hill: Former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge said he always had “productive’” meetings with Sec. Clinton when he was in the Cabinet. “Ridge also offered some praise for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying he always had ‘productive’ meetings with her when he was in the Cabinet and she was a senator. He said a Bush versus Clinton match-up would be ‘almost a clash of titans,’ leading to a campaign that is ‘tough, rigorous, and hopefully, for the first time in a long time, civil.’” [Ballot Box, The Hill, 2/3/15]

    GOVERNORS

    Bush, Jeb (Florida Governor)

    “Hillary Rodham Clinton, who many believe can win the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, if she wants it, is the winner of the 2013 Liberty Medal. The award is to be presented Sept. 10 to Clinton by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, chairman of the National Constitution Center and a possible contender for the 2016 Republican nomination. Politics aside, Bush praised Clinton in a statement released Thursday announcing her selection. ‘Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in democracy,’ Bush said. ‘These efforts as a citizen, an activist, and a leader have earned Secretary Clinton this year’s Liberty Medal.’” [Philadelphia Inquirer, 7/28/13; Constitution Center press release, 6/27/13]

    Daniels, Mitch (former Governor of Indiana and current President of Purdue University)

    Gov. Mitch Daniels: “She is comprehensively experienced and has advantages that some of the other contenders would have to scramble to match in terms of her exposure to the world and… foreign policy.” FORMER GOV. MITCH DANIELS, Republican Indiana: Well both [Governors Scott Walker and Chris Christie] very courageous. Everybody you’ve asked me about so far, the common denominator is these are doers. They didn’t mark time. They’ve attempted, at least as best as I understand it, to tackle the very different problems of their very different states. And that is not a complete portfolio for someone who would be president, but it certainly is a useful attribute and one, of course, that has often been rewarded by the American people. >> MARK HALPERIN: how would Hillary Clinton do by the standards you’ve laid out for what we need in the next president? >> GOV. DANIELS: She is comprehensively experienced and has advantages that some of the other contenders would have to scramble to match in terms of her exposure to the world and many of the tough issues we are facing in foreign policy. >> JOHN HEILEMANN: Do you think she’d be a uniter as well as, in the same way as, you mentioned Jeb Bush governing as a uniter. Do you think Hillary Clinton would be a united? GOV. DAVIELS: One could hope so. I mean it’s a matter of choice really… [Bloomberg’s With All Due Respect, 2/5/15]

    Huckabee, Mike (former Governor of Arkansas and attempted presidential candidate in 2008)

    Gov. Mike Huckabee: “I would have great respect for the formidable nature of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy.” S.E. CUPP: Well, I think the fact that there are so many potential contenders speak volumes about the idea of running against someone like Hillary Clinton. It doesn’t seem like anyone is all that intimidated by her. Do you find her intimidating as a potential opponent if you run? >> MIKE HUCKABEE: I think everyone would be an intimidating opponent. The only way to really run is either unopposed or scared. Those are the two options that you have as a candidate and so I don’t expect that any of us as Republicans will run unopposed. We better run scared and if I were to be fortunate enough to get the nomination, I would have great respect for the formidable nature of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. Now, I don’t think she has the connected quality that her husband has. She’s more the policy wonk, the ideologue, less that incredible connector with people that Bill Clinton is. And I’ve known them both for a long time. I don’t think there’s anybody on the Republican side who might run for president who would have a better understanding of the Clintons than I would and maybe understand the background and so on but even having said that, Hillary Clinton is a rock star within the Democratic Party. But it’s interesting that while all the Democrats expected to run and most of them say they will support her, I am not convinced, first of all that she will pull the trigger when she has to and run, probably will, but maybe not. And if she does, I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion that she is the nominee or certainly not that she is elected president. I don’t think she will be elected president and let me say why when people say that well it’s inevitable. It was inevitable for Hillary Clinton to be the nominee in 2008 and this relatively unknown upstart junior senator who had sponsored zero legislation in his senate career, brief as it was, his name Barack Obama, came up and beat her, so let’s let recent history be a guide to what the future may hold. >> [CSPAN2’s BookTV Programming. 1/25/15]



    Gov. Mike Huckabee described Sec. Clinton as “smart” and “tough.” According to Real Clear Politics, “Huckabee says the environment for him now is very different than it was in 2008 (when he ran) and 2012 (when he thought doing so). He said he has stronger name identification and donors. He recently launched a political action committee. He insisted that he would do a good job showing what the party is for, not what it is against — a criticism of and a challenge for the GOP. Among the other credentials he listed for himself is his familiarity with Hillary Clinton. When asked about the Democrat’s potential run for the White House, Huckabee said no Republican knows her better than he does, given their Arkansas connections. He described her as ‘smart’ and ‘tough,’ and cautioned that she should never be underestimated. ‘She’s a policy genius,’ he said. ‘But I don’t know if she has that same affable charm that her husband does. But then, who does?’” [Real Clear Politics, 9/15/14]

    Gov. Mike Huckabee, on Sec. Clinton: “She’s a policy genius.” According to Real Clear Politics, “Huckabee says the environment for him now is very different than it was in 2008 (when he ran) and 2012 (when he thought doing so). He said he has stronger name identification and donors. He recently launched a political action committee. He insisted that he would do a good job showing what the party is for, not what it is against — a criticism of and a challenge for the GOP. Among the other credentials he listed for himself is his familiarity with Hillary Clinton. When asked about the Democrat’s potential run for the White House, Huckabee said no Republican knows her better than he does, given their Arkansas connections. He described her as ‘smart’ and ‘tough,’ and cautioned that she should never be underestimated. ‘She’s a policy genius,’ he said. ‘But I don’t know if she has that same affable charm that her husband does. But then, who does?’” [Real Clear Politics, 9/15/14]

    Huntsman, Jon (Utah Governor, later U.S. Ambassador to China)

    “It’s way too soon to tell. I’ve worked around Hillary Clinton while serving as ambassador to China, and all I can tell you as a Republican is she’s pretty good. She’s smart. She’s hardworking. She – she relates to all kinds of people, and I was very, very impressed working with her as a Republican. The Republican Party, as we always see in history, and these political tides, as Theodore White used to talk about, are inexorable and we’ll see them come in and come out and people will rise based upon the occasion and the circumstances that we face. And I have every belief that in a free market, which politics is for the most part, we’ll see the right kind of people step up before 2016.” [Bloomberg TV, 9/27/13]

    Kasich, John (Governor of Ohio)

    John Kasich on Hillary Clinton: “I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her.” BRET BAIER: How do you think Republicans fight a Hillary Clinton nomination? >> GOV. JOHN KASICH: I don’t think you have to run against her. I think you run for what you’re for. I think you create a vision for people that everybody is included. Everyone can rise. And we’ll be personally responsible here. So with Hillary, you know I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her. They have cameras out following me around places where I go. They think I’m going to make a mistake. And you know, maybe I will. I’m as capable of that as anybody is. >> BAIER: So they have cameras following events? >> GOV. KASICH: Oh yeah. They go out and they got these trackers. BAIER: The Clinton people? GOV. KASICH: It’s called American Bridge. I don’t know who they all are. I like Hillary but look, the bottom line is you need tell people what you’re for. You can say where they have fallen down. But you need to be very clear in the things that you want to do and paint a vision. >> [fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier, 1/22/15]

    John Kasich: “I like Hillary.” BRET BAIER: How do you think Republicans fight a Hillary Clinton nomination? >> GOV. JOHN KASICH: I don’t think you have to run against her. I think you run for what you’re for. I think you create a vision for people that everybody is included. Everyone can rise. And we’ll be personally responsible here. So with Hillary, you know I know her. I like her. I’ve worked with her. They have cameras out following me around places where I go. They think I’m going to make a mistake. And you know, maybe I will. I’m as capable of that as anybody is. >> BAIER: So they have cameras following events? >> GOV. KASICH: Oh yeah. They go out and they got these trackers. BAIER: The Clinton people? GOV. KASICH: It’s called American Bridge. I don’t know who they all are. I like Hillary but look, the bottom line is you need tell people what you’re for. You can say where they have fallen down. But you need to be very clear in the things that you want to do and paint a vision. >> [fox News’ Special Report with Bret Baier, 1/22/15]

    Perry, Rick

    Gov. Perry, on Sec. Clinton’s stance on Syria: “I think on that issue she was closer to being right than she has been on some other ones.” According to the U.S. News & World Report, “Rick Perry agrees with Hillary Clinton. Or at least, pretty close to it. Asked Tuesday at the Iowa State Fair whether he agreed with the former secretary of state’s assessment that a lack of prior U.S. intervention in Syria emboldened jihadists to penetrate Iraq, the GOP governor of Texas found some daylight with the potential future presidential rival. ‘I think on that issue she was closer to being right than she has been on some other ones,’ he replied.” [U.S. News & World Report, 8/12/14]

    According to The Frontrunner, “The Daily Caller (8/30, Levinson, May) reported that in 1993, then-Texas Agriculture Commissioner Rick Perry ‘praised the efforts of then-first lady Hillary Clinton to reform health care, a precursor to’ the ‘health care reform efforts’ of President Obama. The Daily Caller added, ‘In a letter to Clinton…Perry wrote: ‘I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation’s health care system are most commendable.’ ‘I would like to request that the task force give particular consideration to the needs of the nation’s farmers, ranchers, and agriculture workers, and other members of rural communities,’ Perry continued. … ‘Again, your efforts are worthy,’ Perry concluded, ‘and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses.’” [The Frontrunner, 8/31/11]

    Schwarzenegger, Arnold (California Governor)

    “Also on Sunday, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the potential choice as a great move. ‘I think she is a very very bright woman and very experienced. I think this could be a great move,’ Schwarzenegger told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    HOUSE

    Blackburn, Marsha (Tennessee Representative)

    “On CNN’s Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn said Clinton would be a good fit for the position. ‘I think that Hillary Clinton will probably accept that, from what I am hearing. I think it would be a nice gesture. I think that she is well qualified,” said the Republican congresswoman.’” [CNN.com, 11/16/08]

    Duncan, Jeff (South Carolina Representative)

    Rep. Jeff Duncan: The Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement “opened up a million and a half acres in the Gulf of Mexico.” REP. JEFF DUNCAN, (R) South Carolina, 3rd District: That shell in deep water, I was to be part of implementing one thing I think the Obama Administration got right. You don’t hear that come out of a conservative’s mouth very often. The one thing the Obama Administration got right was a Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement signed with Mexico by Hillary Clinton in a summit in Cabo. It’s a mouth-full. I realize that. The Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement. It opened up a million and a half acres in the Gulf of Mexico. If you can think about a boundary between the United States and Mexico you think about that border in Texas and New Mexico, think about a maritime border or a maritime boundary, that border extending out into the Gulf of Mexico where we have territorial waters on the Mexican side and territorial waters on the U.S. side. Well under that maritime boundary are recoverable resources and for a long time that million and a half acres in that what they call the Western Gap part of the Gulf of Mexico was off limits. Nobody was producing. Mexico wasn’t producing, U.S. wasn’t producing. So they signed this Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement said we’re going to allow that area to be produced. We’re going to allow those shared resources to be produced we’re going to share resources, technology, we’re going to share some of the regulations. Well, once they signed that agreement, we asked Ken Salazar, the Secretary of the Interior at the time, how about sending us the implementing language so we could implement that agreement. We would like to open up a million and a half acres of deep water in the Western Gulf to energy production because we believe there’s recoverable resources there that could go into that national security energy mix on American energy independence. He wouldn’t send us the implementing language. So after about a year of that Doc Hastings and I and a number of others on the committee working to get that I decided to write it myself… [CSPAN3, 1/20/15]



    Grimm, Michael

    Rep. Michael Grimm: “I think it’s going to be very difficult for the Republicans to beat Hillary Clinton.” According to the Staten Island Advance, “The election is still two years away, and a lot can change in that time, but GOP Rep. Michael Grimm said he already knows who the most formidable Democratic candidate will be: Hillary Clinton. ‘I think it’s going to be very difficult for the Republicans to beat Hillary Clinton,’ Grimm (R-Staten Island/Brooklyn) told the Advance Editorial Board, where he appeared with Democratic challenger Domenic M. Recchia Jr. ‘So I think that a lot of work has got to go into it.’” [Staten Island Advance, 10/23/14]

    King, Peter (New York Representative)

    BANFIELD: I wonder if you think that the former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton’s comments about the secretary, and in my words, faking an illness, in his words, having a diplomatic illness to beat the band, are deserving of an apology.

    KING: I certainly wouldn’t have said it, especially knowing Hillary Clinton and what a tough warrior she is. To me, there’s never a basis for that. Even if I didn’t agree with someone, you should always give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a health issue. The only thing I’d say in Bolton’s defense, and I’m being sarcastic when I say this — it is hard for me to imagine Hillary Clinton ever being sick. She’s one of the strongest people I’ve ever met in my life. But obviously, she was ill. It could have been serious. It wasn’t, thank god. And I would not have said what the Ambassador Bolton did. How he wants to handle it with her, that’s up to him. But I’m just delighted —

    BANFIELD: Do you think he should apologize, Congressman? That was pretty serious —

    KING: Oh, I would.

    BANFIELD: — I mean, pretty serious, very, very strident comments.

    KING: Again, all I would say is I would — if I was the one who said it, I would.

    [CNN, 1/3/13]
    Ryan, Paul (Wisconsin Representative, 2012 Republican Vice Presidential Nominee)

    Rep. Paul Ryan: “She’s [Sec. Clinton’s] very formidable. She’ll raise a lot money, she has a lot of name ID.” According to the Tampa Bay Times, “Republicans need not be cowed by the prospect of taking on Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016, said U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, one of the leading Republican contenders to do just that. ‘She’s very formidable. She’ll raise a lot money, she has a lot of name ID,’ the Wisconsin native and former Republican vice presidential nominee said during a stop in Tampa Bay to promote his new book. ‘But I think Hillary Clinton is very beatable because a Hillary Clinton presidency is basically the same thing as an Obama third term. I don’t think she’ll be able to shake that.’” [Tampa Bay Times, 8/24/14]

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    Now tell us why each of these people are wrong.

    This is what you are asking of others except you are using opinion pieces and vids.
    I would not dream of it unless I had firm proof , which is not quite the same as Harry when he labelled the Video in my post 3984 a load of crap without any evidence to back him up there is the difference , and are you saying the Uranium deal is a figment of some one's vivid Imagination , and a load of crap as Harry said .?

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    ^ It is all true. Exactly the same. Now rebut.

    I insist. Or else I will hound you in endless posts as you do others.

    Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ It is all true. Exactly the same. Now rebut.

    I insist. Or else I will hound you in endless posts as you do others.

    Get it?
    Rebut these https://www.google.co.th/?gws_rd=cr&...ium+to+Russia+ which was discussed in the Fox news video which Harry said was a load of crap

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    ^I refer to post 4017. Are you saying all those people who had praise for Clinton are liars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I never claimed any were that they was news articles
    Yeah, you kinda did actually:
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    You may choose to read this article RP of course the usual's will just completely disregard it Blog: More 'classified' Hillary emails released
    Posting screeds of blogs, opinion pieces and vdos and then demanding people rebut them is the antithesis to informed debate.

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    ^ What he said.

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