Chuck Hagel Praised By GOP Senators In 2008, Must Now Battle Them For Nomination

**Boon Mee** · 02-02-2013, 12:32 PM

Another nail in Hagel's coffin:

Hagel Can't Explain Past Comments About Israel Lobby - YouTube

Stupendously unfit for SecDef

**Norton** · 02-02-2013, 05:06 PM

Hagel is qualified and will make a very good Sec Def. These "hearings" for cabinet posts are nothing but televised political posturing exercises. Imo, they should be abolished. A President has the right to appoint cabinet members he can work with. No need to give the "opposition" a platform to drag candidates through the coals with interrogations aimed at discrediting the candidate and an elected President. I'm sure there would be many more great candidates willing to accept cabinet post if they knew they would not be faced with this circus.

Agree with he need for Supreme Count hearings. Even though they are political circuses, a Supreme Court Justice is for life. Unlike cabinet members who can be replaced by a newly elected President.

**GooMaiRoo** · 02-02-2013, 07:53 PM

If Chuck Hagel runs for president in 2016 as an independent, he could very well beat both the Democrats and Republicans. Pretty much every moderate American that I've met likes him. Hagel could be another Dwight Eisenhower. Maybe not the slickest public personality, but he's a fiscal conservative and patriot with a cautious attitude toward war. He also stands up to the pro-Israel lobby, which seems to own Washington D.C. these days. Hagel received 83% of the vote as a Republican (with a record-breaking percentage of Democrats crossing over to vote for him) the last time he ran for senate in Nebraska. Go Chuck.

**sabang** · 02-02-2013, 10:10 PM

Chuck should do the rat off a sinking ship job, jettison the republicans, and join the dem's- I reckon he'd beat Hillary for the next Potus. After the treatment he's received from his so called team mates, a slam dunk.

**robuzo** · 02-02-2013, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo

If Chuck Hagel runs for president in 2016 as an independent, he could very well beat both the Democrats and Republicans. . .Maybe not the slickest public personality

That's a feature not a bug.

**robuzo** · 02-02-2013, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Humbert

Reverting to yiddish booners. That explains a lot.

I still think this has almost nothing to do with Israel and everything to do with the Holy Defense Budget (Praise be unto its name).

Anyway, Americans should stop calling it "defense" spending. Last I checked screwing up third world countries on the other side of the globe doesn't count as defense.

Yes, the so-called "defense budget," what a joke on the taxpayers:
The true cost of national security : Columbia Journalism Review
Chuck Hagel, on the griddle now as President Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, famously called the Defense Department “bloated,” in a 2011 interview with Financial Times. But budget stories then and now tend to report on the base budget from the Department of Defense, leaving readers with the impression that that is the full cost of fulfilling the Constitutional mandate to “provide for the common defence.”

It isn’t. From the perspective of taxpayers who must bear the burden, total national security costs are as much as 2.5 times the base Defense budget. Reporters might want to take a look at the true costs, and not just at the way the White House prepares the budget and Pentagon spins it.

**Humbert** · 03-02-2013, 09:33 AM

According to accounts that I have read Hagel was coached by the Obama team to take a non-confrontational approach to the provocations of his interlocutors. Apparently he has a tendency to anger and they were concerned that it would turn off the more moderate Republican members of the committee. He may have taken heed to their instructions a bit too much. It may have been counter-productive but I would have liked to see him respond to their challenges more aggressively.

I think Norton has nailed it here:

Originally Posted by Norton

A President has the right to appoint cabinet members he can work with. No need to give the "opposition" a platform to drag candidates through the coals with interrogations aimed at discrediting the candidate and an elected President. I'm sure there would be many more great candidates willing to accept cabinet post if they knew they would not be faced with this circus.

**Boon Mee** · 03-02-2013, 09:54 AM

^
Clearly, Norton and yourself are backing the wrong man:

Iran figured prominently in Hagel’s mysterious misspeaking:

He warmed up with a little light “misspeaking” on Iran. “I support the president’s strong position on containment,” he declared.

But not for long:

“I was just handed a note that I misspoke, that I said I supported the president’s position on containment [of Iran]. If I said that, I meant to say that we don’t have a position on containment.”

This clarification required the intercession of Senator Carl Levin as a sort of deux ex machina to rescue the protagonist. Then Senator Gillibrand descended to lend a hand:

After he’d hailed Iran’s “elected, legitimate government,” it fell to another Democrat, Kirsten Gillibrand, to prompt Hagel to walk it back. Okay, delete “elected” and “legitimate”:
“What I meant to say, should have said, is that it’s recognizable.”

An Over-sedated Elmer Fudd

This guy hasn't a clue...

" Containment? Prevention? What difference does it make?"

**Humbert** · 03-02-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This guy hasn't a clue...

I guess you have to factor in that he is a Republican.

**Norton** · 03-02-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Clearly, Norton and yourself are backing the wrong man:

Poke, pick, follow the party line. Keep posting opinions titled "Containing Hagel" calling him "Elmer Fudd". When the circle jerk is done, he'll be confirmed Boon. The votes for his confirmation will have been there before he was even announced as a candidate. Just the way the circus is set up. Suppose there is a slight possibility he could be only the 10th of the thousands of candidates in 200 years to be rejected but odds are he won't be.

**sabang** · 03-02-2013, 10:32 AM

Waste of time- Hagel's got the job, and everyone knows it. Why does the US political system make such an absolute farce of things, and air it's dirty laundry for all to see? Even appointing judges there is a political circus. Well done to the מפלגה רפובליקנית (republican party) though, the world is left in no doubt who you work for.

**Boon Mee** · 06-02-2013, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This guy hasn't a clue...

I guess you have to factor in that he is a Republican.

A RINO is more accurate.

...the country is in the very best of hands.

**slackula** · 06-02-2013, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

A RINO is more accurate.

"Gentlemen: today we ride our Hoverounds into destiny, for today we will once and for all eliminate the liberal RINO socialists who believe that Ronald Reagan's urine is naught but 87 octane, whereas we, the TRUE Conservative Tea Patriots, know that St Reagan's holy eliminations are worthy to power NASCAR engines!!!"

**Boon Mee** · 08-02-2013, 10:59 AM

No wonder Hagel's confirmation is held up. He's a Hamas-lover!

Senate sources informed the Breitbart website today that Chuck Hagel’s foreign funding may include “Friends of Hamas.”

On Thursday, Senate sources told Breitbart News exclusively that they have been informed that one of the reasons that President Barack Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, has not turned over requested documents on his sources of foreign funding is that one of the names listed is a group purportedly called “Friends of Hamas.”
Yesterday, 25 senators sent a letter to Hagel demanding information on his foreign funding. Hagel has refused all such requests, prompting the senators to state, “in the judgment of the undersigned, a Committee vote on your nomination should not occur unless and until you provide the requested information.”

No wonder Barack Obama picked him for Defense Secretary.

Secret Hagel Donor?: White House Spox Ducks Question on 'Friends of Hamas'

Back to you...

**barbaro** · 11-02-2013, 05:57 PM

I hope Hagel gets the position

**Boon Mee** · 12-02-2013, 09:44 AM

"Remember when the mainstream media mocked a politician who had to attend five colleges to graduate, whose academic record was less than outstanding, and whose subsequent success was proof of nothing? Remember how that was supposed to be a threat to national security, the economy, and so much else? That was so 2008, so Sarah Palin. It turns out that former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), who is now awaiting confirmation as Secretary of Defense, attended five colleges and was a "D" student. He volunteered to serve in Vietnam."

"The media have shown some skepticism over Hagel's qualifications after his poor showing in his Jan. 31 confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee. But they have shown little interest in his checkered academic background, and certainly none of the derision they once poured upon Sarah Palin."

Which is, of course, more concrete evidence of Lamestream Media Bias.

The man is a dim bulb. Not fit for SecDef...

Source

**Norton** · 12-02-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The man is a dim bulb. Not fit for SecDef...

And will be confirmed.

**pseudolus** · 12-02-2013, 10:50 AM

Amusing that the chief reasons people are against him is that he calls Israel on their war crimes and sees them for what they are. He is up for SecDef of Israel? Did we all miss something?

**Humbert** · 12-02-2013, 11:11 AM

Republicans are all upset about Benghazi so they are taking it out on Hagel because they were humiliated. Partisan breast beating that everyone can plainly see for what it is. Our former administration has far more to answer for and everyone knows it.

**swampfox1001** · 12-02-2013, 11:30 AM

He is not qualified for the position.

**swampfox1001** · 12-02-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Republicans are all upset about Benghazi so they are taking it out on Hagel because they were humiliated. Partisan breast beating that everyone can plainly see for what it is. Our former administration has far more to answer for and everyone knows it.

Yeah, no need to get upset when US lives are lost and the ambassador is raped by a mob and dragged though the streets like a bag of trash. No need to get upset about failing to respond to calls for increased security. No need, no need at all.

**pseudolus** · 12-02-2013, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by swampfox1001

Originally Posted by Humbert

Republicans are all upset about Benghazi so they are taking it out on Hagel because they were humiliated. Partisan breast beating that everyone can plainly see for what it is. Our former administration has far more to answer for and everyone knows it.

Yeah, no need to get upset when US lives are lost and the ambassador is raped by a mob and dragged though the streets like a bag of trash. No need to get upset about failing to respond to calls for increased security. No need, no need at all.

This?

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...qq508b6ae0.jpg

Sure it's not nice. I guess though that some there were upset by the US arming and training Mujahadin terrorists in a fake uprising because Gadaffi told America that they could only buy Libya's natural resources with Gold Dinars as opposed to worthless US dollars.

**slackula** · 12-02-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by swampfox1001

Yeah, no need to get upset when US lives are lost and the ambassador is raped by a mob

Not true, didn't happen. Stop lying.

**Humbert** · 12-02-2013, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by swampfox1001

Yeah, no need to get upset when US lives are lost

And taking out revenge on Chuck Hagel will solve everything right? Life in the bubble is so simple.

**barbaro** · 12-02-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The man is a dim bulb. Not fit for SecDef...

Source

Boon (sorry if I missed you stating why earlier) but:

Why do you oppose Hagel for SecDef?

He's on your team. He's GOP, ya know.

Thread: Chuck Hagel Praised By GOP Senators In 2008, Must Now Battle Them For Nomination

Thread Tools

Display

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

Posting Permissions