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    That's a pretty silly post there sabang but we suppose when you've run out of objective retorts, you Libs will use anything.

    Try responding to the facts here like the Obama Administration used the Video excuse and their lapdog media - NYT continues to reguritate that line, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Try responding to the facts
    Such as 'who gave the order to stand down?' Answered months ago- there was no order.
    Done, dusted- your 'Benghazigate' was nothing but a breathless circle jerk from the beginning. Like FnF, menendezgate, IRSgate, birtherism- dead in the watergate.
    There never was any 'Benghazigate', and the world has moved on. Now, we are just laughing at you.

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    Then why do we get white wash jobs like the NYT's bogus piece that tries to blame the Video again?

    Denial works for a time but eventually reality pops up and smacks you in the face as it's doing with the HRC resurection-thing.

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    Let's review the salient details again for you slow readers?

    Within Minutes of Benghazi Attack, Barack Obama Was Informed By Top Military Men It Was a "Terrorist Attack" and not a Spontaneous Protest or Exercise in Freeform Film Criticism

    Actually that headline is slightly deceptive, because we only know the top military men about to meet with Barack Obama were told Benghazi was a "terrorist attack." And we probably don't have proof of that because of a corrupt invocation of Executive Privilege.

    However, it defies reason to imagine that General Ham and the rest of them were told it was a "terrorist attack" but then immediately told Obama it was a spontaneous protest.

    And yet the Administration began claiming the next morning that it was a spontaneous protest in which spontaneous participants happened to bring spontaneous mortars with spontaneously pre-ranged firing solutions.
    Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation's top civilian and uniformed defense officials -- headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama -- were informed that the event was a "terrorist attack," declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president's Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

    Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him [sic] who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing -- in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing -- occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.
    ...
    "My first call was to General Dempsey, General Dempsey's office, to say, 'Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to see him right away,'" Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. "I told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary Panetta."
    ...
    Numerous aides to the president and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the public in the weeks following the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans that night -- as Obama's hotly contested bid for re-election was entering its final stretch -- that there was no evidence the killings were the result of a premeditated terrorist attack, but rather were the result of a protest gone awry.
    So, was Panetta confused about the nature of the attack, perhaps conveying incorrect information to the President?

    Not really...
    Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that "there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi."

    "Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?" asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. "There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack," Panetta replied. Senior State Department officials who were in direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have also made clear they, too, knew immediately -- from surveillance video and eyewitness accounts -- that the incident was a terrorist attack.
    Obama has admitted the story was false. However, he and his defenders insist that the false story was not a lie. They claim that they had legitimate reasons to believe a false story themselves.

    And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of HRC's office and they trotted out Susan Rice to repeat the lie over and over again.

    As the coverup continues...
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't know, who did order the troops to stand down?

    Anyone?
    Good luck getting a straight forward, well reasoned answer on that one.. Or anything related on the topic for that matter, all you usually get is name calling and incrimination's just for asking.

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    the senate intelligence committee released a bipartisan report on benghazi....

    Addressing some of the most controversial elements surrounding the attack, the report finds that there were no military assets positioned in a place where they could have saved the Americans killed in the attack. Republicans, including several on the House Oversight Committee, have accused the administration of failing to use military response to save those Americans while the compound was under attack.
    The report also addresses the controversial changing of talking points that were used by Susan Rice on Sunday morning shows days after the attack. Republicans have charged that the administration engaged in a political ploy when they changed talking points and stated the attacks were prompted by a protest in response to an anti-Islam video. The report finds that the intelligence picture being created after the attack was what contributed to the talking points.


    “In intelligence reports after September 11, 2012, intelligence analysts inaccurately referred to the presence of a protest at the U.S. mission facility before the attack based on open source information and limited intelligence, but without sufficient intelligence or eyewitness statements to corroborate that assertion,” according to a summary of the report released by the Intelligence Committee. “The [Intelligence Community] took too long to correct these erroneous reports, which caused confusion and influenced the public statements of policymakers.”

    Read more: POLITICO.com


    bipartisan (adj)--supported by both sides

    both democrats and republicans have declared that as far as the alleged 'benghazi scandal" is concerned, there is no there there.

    as those who walk upright have been saying for months now, the obama administration is not at fault.

    1. no one gave an order to stand down.
    2. US intelligence agencies have determined that nothing could have been done to save those men after the attack had begun.
    3. US intelligence agencies said the attack was set off by a video, and former US ambassador to the UN susan rice was just reporting that intelligence.

    quick----default to fast and furious or blame the liberal media!




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    What about Bill & Hilly's hitlistgate? Might even be able to dredge up fostergate. Over to you booner- but this ones done, stick a fork in it.

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    Another interesting turn reported by Fox, that the rest of the media will ignore in favor or running a zillion more stories on Bridgegate. Or maybe they’ll spend some time discussing the ins and outs of the Justin Bieber egg-throwing scandal:

    On the eve of the terrorist attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, the Obama White House may have exaggerated the scope and depth of President Obama’s preparation for such attacks, newly declassified documents show.

    On Sept. 10, 2012 — the day before Al Qaeda-linked terrorists carried out the bloody assault on the U.S. consulate and a related annex in Benghazi — the White House Press Office issued a press release entitled “Readout of the President’s Meeting with Senior Administration Officials on Our Preparedness and Security Posture on the Eleventh Anniversary of September 11th."

    A set of “Top Secret” documents obtained by Fox News reveals that the nation’s highest-ranking uniformed military officer, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress in executive session last year that the Sept. 10 meeting “was actually a conference call.” Moreover, Dempsey testified, Libya was never even discussed during the call, despite a persistent and increasingly worrisome stream of threat reporting from that country, and from Benghazi in particular.

    The Sept. 10 press release stated that the session had covered the “specific measures we are taking” and “steps taken” to protect Americans and U.S. facilities abroad. It also related an order from President Obama for all agencies to “do everything possible to protect the American people, both at home and abroad.”

    Yet the declassified documents show that Dempsey testified to the Congress last year that not a single directive had been issued by him or Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to adjust American military force posture anywhere in the world as the 9/11 anniversary loomed just hours away."

    So, it appears that the Obama Administration Lied Before They Lied eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Another interesting turn reported by Fox, that the rest of the media will ignore
    ............ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .............. BM, just because Fox reports something does not make it news, let alone credible news. Oh, and that the rest of the media is ignoring it gives you an indication that it is just that . . . not news.
    Or are you saying that only Fox stands alone in the media jungle to bring forth the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them Murdoch?

    (Ah, it's good to be back )
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    I love the way Fox keep pushing out these ridiculous stories about Benghazi as if they are something new.

    They always seem to gloss over the important stuff:

    U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens warned the State Department of "unpredictable, volatile and violent" security conditions in Libya a month before the deadly assault that killed him and three other Americans, according to cables congressional Republicans sent the White House Friday.

    "The security condition in Libya remains unpredictable, volatile, and violent," Stevens wrote in an Aug. 2 cable.

    Stevens sent the cable to request an additional 11 bodyguards at the U.S. Embassy in the Libyan capital of Tripoli.
    So what the fuck was he doing in Benghazi then, the stupid twat?

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    Devastating Benghazi Timeline Reveals Obama Was Missing In Action

    Mebe if they sent someone up to the Shroom Room he might have known about the upcoming attack?



    The government watchdog group that revealed that President Barack Obama failed to attend over half of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB) released a devastating Benghazi timeline Wednesday.

    It reveals Obama’s schedule in the week leading up to the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.
    Release of the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) Benghazi timeline comes as a new Senate report published Wednesday concluded that “the attacks were preventable.”
    As the GAI timeline reveals, Obama failed to attend his daily intelligence briefing for the five consecutive days leading up to the September 11, 2012 attack of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.




    The Benghazi timeline catalogues Obama’s continuous campaigning even as terrorist forces vowed Libyan attacks and State Department officials were warned of security threats.

    The day following the deadly attacks, Obama departed for a Las Vegas campaign rally.

    Devastating Benghazi Timeline Reveals Obama MIA

    The Country is in the very best of hands, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    So what the fuck was he doing in Benghazi then, the stupid twat?
    His job maybe?? He had a much larger stake in the success of Libya then most as he was instrumental in a large part of the overthrow and wanted to see it through... That sort of commitment is to be admired not vilified..
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    Who-What-Why is Benghazi ?
    So a silly Diplomat got killed ! Who cares ?
    Americans kill people all over the world almost every week. (a farmer in Yemen this week).
    Just call it collateral damage...and let's hope more get killed. Because they are not DIPLOMATS, they are part of a american war/crime machine.

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    Because dear man, the fate of HRC & Obama's reputation (that's a good one! ) hangs in the balance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    the fate of HRC & Obama's reputation (that's a good one! ) hangs in the balance...
    The reputation of the Right wing blagosphere certainly does not hang in the balance. Name one of your endless parade of faux scandals that has been anything but a flop.

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    Well, it's somewhat problematic to get justice done when your Attorney General is a criminal and the Lap Dog Media carries water for Obama at every turn now isn't it?

    A good example:

    "Do you really believe this wasn't a pre-planned terrorist attack — preplanned terrorist attack with Al Qaeda affiliates in charge?" asked Lindsey Graham today.
    "There's not one report coming from Benghazi about a protest around the embassy.... People in charge of security never reported a protest because there was not one...."
    And John McCain, calling the NYT an "ever-reliable surrogate for the Obama administration," said:
    "The false narrative that The New York Times has been trying to further is intended to undermine the conclusion that the Senate Intelligence Committee has effectively arrived at, that is, that the administration knew or should have known of the terrorist threat present in Benghazi during the relevant period and should have pre-positioned assets, or made other preparations, that would have prevented Americans there from being harmed or otherwise ensured their security."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    it's somewhat problematic to get justice done when your Attorney General is a criminal and the Lap Dog Media carries water for Obama at every turn now isn't it?
    Ah yes- more 'wisdom' from the RW blagosphere. B'waaaah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    it's somewhat problematic to get justice done when your Attorney General is a criminal and the Lap Dog Media carries water for Obama at every turn now isn't it?
    Ah yes- more 'wisdom' from the RW blagosphere. B'waaaah.
    Doesn't address the issue that the Obama Administration lied about the Video and continued the lie after it was firmly established that it was a terror attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    it's somewhat problematic to get justice done when your Attorney General is a criminal and the Lap Dog Media carries water for Obama at every turn now isn't it?
    Ah yes- more 'wisdom' from the RW blagosphere. B'waaaah.
    sure, the attorney general is a criminal...but for some reason he hasn't been impeached by the republican controlled house of representatives.




    it's just more of the same....

    the usual suspect(s) ceaselessly propagate a phony scandal until it all falls apart due to those pesky things called facts....and then they default to blaming the media...for reporting the facts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    So what the fuck was he doing in Benghazi then, the stupid twat?
    His job maybe?? He had a much larger stake in the success of Libya then most as he was instrumental in a large part of the overthrow and wanted to see it through... That sort of commitment is to be admired not vilified..
    Really, and his job was trading in weapons was it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    it was firmly established that it was a terror attack?
    Says who? Did you know that Issa never even interviewed a Libyan during the commission of his report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    Because dear man, the fate of HRC & Obama's reputation (that's a good one! ) hangs in the balance...


    What happened to the other stains ?



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    Must have been that darn 'ol pesky Video to blame after all, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    So what the fuck was he doing in Benghazi then, the stupid twat?
    His job maybe?? He had a much larger stake in the success of Libya then most as he was instrumental in a large part of the overthrow and wanted to see it through... That sort of commitment is to be admired not vilified..
    Really, and his job was trading in weapons was it?

    Diplomacy, yes possibly even help to provide weapons sources, so what? France and others did it for us at one point.. We've done it for many countries of the allies in past wars and still do and they have also for their own interests including the liberalization of Libya, which was BTW an operation headed up by France and they don't seem to have any problems with it when it serves their purposes, so your point is what exactly?
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    funny how the same ol' group of rethuglikkklansmen ignore this week after week after week after week after week....

    where is your outrage? where were the hearings?

    please enlighten us all as to why Benghazi is different than these? because they said it was because of a video?

    In the immortal words of HRC "what difference does it make?"

    bunch of fucking hypocrites...

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