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    Mitt Romney

    He's running for President.

    Your questions, thoughts, and comments about Mitt Romney and his campaign here.

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    I have never heard of him.
    Can you start it off Milky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    I have never heard of him.
    Can you start it off Milky?
    Well, I already did start if off.




    Notice that he's....Mo'mon.


    Here's a generic wiki bio: Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    His name and movie star looks strike me as quite presidential.


    How's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Notice that he's....Mo'mon.
    Yes, next candidate please.

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    this guy is completely unelectable.

    1. he's a religious nut.
    2. his waffling puts bill clinton to shame.

    NEXT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    1. he's a religious nut.
    Isn't that a pre-requisite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    this guy is completely unelectable.

    1. he's a religious nut.
    2. his waffling puts bill clinton to shame.

    NEXT!
    I agree with point #2 but what makes him a religious nut?
    So what he's a Morman? John Kennedy was elected as a Roman Catholic?

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    Heard part of his speech yesterday. Very typical and safe political rhetoric. Pure vanilla candidate.

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    But moderate Republicans aren't the ones who could derail a Romney candidacy. His obstacle is the evangelical base--a voting bloc that now makes up 30 percent of the Republican electorate and that wields particular influence in primary states like South Carolina and Virginia. Just as it is hard to overestimate the importance of evangelicalism in the modern Republican Party, it is nearly impossible to overemphasize the problem evangelicals have with Mormonism. Evangelicals don't have the same vague anti-LDS prejudice that some Americans do. For them it's a doctrinal thing, based on very specific theological disputes that can't be overcome by personality or charm or even shared positions on social issues. Romney's journalistic boosters either don't understand these doctrinal issues or try to sidestep them. But ignoring them won't make them go away. To evangelicals, Mormonism isn't just another religion. It's a cult.
    In 2004, Mormons were specifically excluded from participation in the National Day of Prayer organized by Shirley Dobson (wife of James Dobson, leader of the conservative Christian organization Focus on the Family) because their theology was found to be incompatible with Christian beliefs.
    "Mitt Romney's Evangelical Problem" by Amy Sullivan

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    Religious zealots and.....

    VILLAGES -- Before former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney could tout his conservative credentials Friday in this tri-county hotbed of Republicanism, he first had to defend his religious background as he begins the long road toward the 2008 GOP presidential nomination....

    However, some political pundits have questioned whether fundamental Christians would take issue with his beliefs. Romney has changed his mind in the abortion debate -- he supported abortion rights until about two years ago, and now says he opposes abortion.
    Entire: GOP candidate Romney defends religion in Villages - Orlando Sentinel : Lake County News GOP candidate Romney defends religion in Villages - Orlando Sentinel : Lake County News

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    Feb. 18, 2007 — Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, together with his wife Ann, faced up to questions about their political, religious, and private journeys in an interview with ABC News' chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos on Friday.
    "I'm not running for pastor-in-chief. I'm running for commander-in-chief," Romney said, dismissing concerns about the influence of his Mormon faith on his politics. "If I'm lucky enough to be elected president of this country and I take that oath of office, there will be no higher promise than to abide by the Constitution and the rule of law."
    In light of speculation among political analysts as to whether his Mormonism will alienate the Evangelical vote, the former governor highlighted common values and beliefs shared by all religions.
    "I think we are, if you will, one family of humanity," Romney said, in what appeared to be an attempt to reach out to voters suspicious of his religious affiliation.
    the pastor in chief line will work well with moderates, but 'one family of humanity' is not going to sway skeptical southern baptists.


    and it is this type of thing that is going to sink him if he ever gets through to the general election.....

    While discussing the Mormon faith, Stephanopoulos asked Romney how Muslims might view the Mormon doctrine that teaches that Jesus will probably return to the United States and reign on earth for 1,000 years. Romney responded by saying "that doesn't happen to be a doctrine of my church."
    "Our belief is just as it says in the Bible, that the messiah will come to Jerusalem, stand on the Mount of Olives, and that the Mount of Olives will be the place for the great gathering and so forth," he said.
    But when contacted by ABC News for a clarification of Mormon theology, a church spokesperson said the Mormon Church does teach, in part, that Jesus will someday return to North America.
    "We believe that Christ will return again to the Earth, and while that day is not imminent, it is our responsibility to prepare for that eventuality. One appearance will be to the new Jerusalem and another will be to the Jerusalem of the old world," said spokesperson Michael Purdy. "It is our belief that the new Jerusalem will be established within the state of Missouri."
    missouri? my money was on kansas.
    ABC News: Romney: 'I'm Not Running for Pastor-In-Chief'
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    Romney's campaign will be interesting, no doubt. Part of the debate with the religious right will be the continued question of whether the LDS are a "Christian" denomination. LDS says yes, many say no.

    I'm a liberal Democrat, but what I find the most appealing about Romney is the health-care solution put in place in Massachusetts. It may not be perfect, but at least the state was attempting to do something, while other states are sitting back and waiting for the federals to come up with something (and that's a guarantee that no one will like or agree to the solution). And the Massachusetts healthcare plan puts the onus for coverage where it belongs -- with the employers.

    As to the rest, sorry -- can't handle the Republican platform that all the candidates assume they must jump onto (pro-life, etc.). Can't wait to see how Giuliani handles that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesBonsTemps
    can't handle the Republican platform that all the candidates assume they must jump onto (pro-life, etc.). Can't wait to see how Giuliani handles that.
    i don't see how any of these guys (mccain, guiliani (sp?), romney) are going to get through the primaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LesBonsTemps
    can't handle the Republican platform that all the candidates assume they must jump onto (pro-life, etc.). Can't wait to see how Giuliani handles that.
    i don't see how any of these guys (mccain, guiliani (sp?), romney) are going to get through the primaries.
    I agree....

    But the part is....it's a situation that the Demos have experienced for too long....

    There isn't anybody who grabs the populace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    There isn't anybody who grabs the populace.
    Not since Robert Kennedy in 1968. Even the normally disaffected urban Blacks treated him like a rock star.

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    Nest Gingrich had a great comment on the Sunday morning talk shows yesterday -- said that all the candidates were out campaigning WAY too soon, and they would "end up looking like an episode of Campaign Survivor" -- who can outplay, outwit and outlast the others?

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    Mitt Romney turned in another steller performance tonight during the Republican Debates.

    All agree that he was the clear winner this round too although he hasn't sold me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Mitt Romney turned in another steller performance tonight during the Republican Debates.All agree that he was the clear winner this round too although he hasn't sold me.
    Ron Paul won the debate hands-down. He was the only guy who could logically tie his political views to traditional conservative thought. Romney has the look, the sincerity and the depth of a T.V. gameshow host.

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    Booners, you're right about Romney having a good night, but Dr. Paul did amazingly well (note warmonger McCain's numbers). According to Fox's own call-in poll:

    You Decide GOP Primary Poll Results

    — 29% Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney
    — 25% Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas
    — 19% Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani
    — 8% Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
    — 5% Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. Hunter
    — 4% Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
    — 3% Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.
    — 1% Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.
    — 0% Former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore
    — 0% Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesBonsTemps
    they would "end up looking like an episode of Campaign Survivor" -- who can outplay, outwit and outlast the others?
    they're all fighting to get their asses kicked by any dem. nominee (except hillary).

    Quote Originally Posted by floorpotato
    Dr. Paul did amazingly well
    i didn't see the debate, and can't be bothered to read a transcript....but i did read that paul said something along the lines of 'america had it coming' in regard to 9/11.

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    and btw, why is romney refusing to release his tax returns?

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    I think Ron Paul was saying, in effect, that our failed policies in the Middle East led to 9/11 in the same way that out interference in Asia and sanctions led ultimately to Japan attacking us.

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    that's not going to play well with republican primary voters.

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    No shit...Ron Paul blew his last chance with those statements that 'America had it coming'...

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