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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I can't reason with irrational people.
    Good observation - this is always the same kind of people clinging to their tin foil hats:
    Frkn hell, Daffy, yer not another believer are you?

    Do ya still go to Sunday school and sing hymns and such? Bush used to have a morning payer before his daily staff briefings.

    Are you a loyal anti-disestablishmentarianist?

    Is your world made up of good guys as "leaders" who never lie and anyone with a different view must be a commie or a terrorist?

    Do you always brown-nose the boss?

    Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?


    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.
    “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? John 10:34.

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    Do you always post links which do not support your "argument" ?

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    proofwreck (-verb)

    1. To expose a person’s lack of credibility by use of simple research and elementary logic.

    proofwreck (-noun)

    1. A person thus exposed.

    2. Grandiose claims which do not bear up to scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Some independent researchers have managed to collect samples of the huge amount of dust that blanketed New York after the collapse of the towers. In all of the samples, there are unusually high levels of Diet Coke spheres. Conspiracy theorists believe this is "smoking gun" evidence of a Diet Coke and Mentos reaction.
    When Diet Coke and Mentos react, Coke droplets are sprayed into the air. These droplets then form spheres due to surface tension. The spheres produced in a Diet Coke and Mentos reaction are identical to the observed spheres in the World Trade Center dust. Some photographs of Ground Zero show diagonally cut steel beams with what appears to be the by-product of a Diet Coke and Mentos reaction dripping down.
    However, NIST believe there is a simpler explanation. They believe the Diet Coke droplets were formed during the cleanup operation, because many of the workers at Ground Zero were drinking Diet Coke. Critics argue that that wouldn't explain the presence of Diet Coke droplets in a dust sample that was collected only 20 minutes after the north tower collapsed.
    Electron microscope images of traces of Mentos found in the World Trade Center dust.


    The independent scientists also believe they have found traces of unreacted Mentos. In April of 2009, a paper was published in a peer reviewed Chemistry journal entitled Active Nucleatic Material Discovered in the Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe. The paper details the discovery of tiny chips of powdered Mentos.[1]
    As with all chemical reactions, the speed of a Diet Coke and Mentos reaction increases with surface area. When the Mentos is engineered on a nanoscale, the reaction takes on an explosive quality. Conspiracy theorists view this discovery as absolute proof that several tonnes of Diet Coke and high-tech Mentos were used to demolish the three towers.
    “It isn't just a smoking gun, it's a loaded gun!”~ Danish scientist, Niels Harrit

    Links like this one you posted?


    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I can't reason with irrational people.
    Good observation - this is always the same kind of people clinging to their tin foil hats:
    Frkn hell, Daffy, yer not another believer are you?

    Do ya still go to Sunday school and sing hymns and such? Bush used to have a morning payer before his daily staff briefings.

    Are you a loyal anti-disestablishmentarianist?

    Is your world made up of good guys as "leaders" who never lie and anyone with a different view must be a commie or a terrorist?

    Do you always brown-nose the boss?

    Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?


    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.
    Why do you perceive a criticism of loony theories to be the equivalent of being an equally loony Christian "believer"? Aside from the "loony" connection, I do not see how you are making your argument stick?

    - I don't believe in dumb superstition
    - I don't believe in dumb conspiracy theories
    - I happen to have a sufficiently diverse background to be able to understand physics, architecture, engineering, aeronautics, and metals.
    - oddly enough, most adherents to this popular 9/11 conspiracy stuff lack any sort of understanding of the above.

    Nothing unexpected happened on 9/11 with the WTC buildings.

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    Because you'e a believer in the "official"story, not a thinker.

    You may be all you claim to be, but buildings don't fall at freefall speed without an unimpeded path of collapse.

    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.

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    You, ENT ? A thinker ?

    Don't feed the troll, Cthulhu. (But thanks for entering the "debate", anyway. Such as it is).


    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Links like this one you posted?
    Everyone else on this forum can see in the first 3 lines of my post that it was a piss-take. You are the only one who cannot, because you have absolutely no sense of proportion.
    Stop wasting peoples' time by posting shit-for-links, shit-for-brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    we don't know anything
    There.... fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Because you'e a believer in the "official"story, not a thinker.

    You may be all you claim to be, but buildings don't fall at freefall speed without an unimpeded path of collapse.
    Nowhere did I voice support for the official story - my opinion as to what happened is indepedent of whatever story the government offers.

    Quite simply, claiming (as your side does) that there are no planes, and that no commercial airliners hit those buildings is unsustainable.

    Why?

    Because those planes, their crews and the passengers on those plane are real! They existed. They had a history. A quick glance at AIRLINERS.NET lets you pull up each of those tailnumbers and their history.

    Those planes, now, no longer exist. The crews that were assigned to them, no longer exist. The passengers, real people, on the passenger manifest of those flights, no longer exist.

    Just answer me one simple question (disregarding, for now, anything about collapsing buildings) :

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post

    Nothing unexpected happened on 9/11 with the WTC buildings.

    Quote from the FEMA report (Appendix A).

    Recalling that the North Tower suffered no major structural damage from the intense office fire of February 23, 1975, we can conclude that the ensuing office fires of September 11, 2001, also did little extra damage to the towers.

    Conclusion:

    The jet fuel fires played almost no role in the collapse of the World Trade Center.

    So, once again, you have been lied to by the media, are you surprised?

    How Hot Did The Jet Fuel Heat The World Trade Center?


    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.

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    Answer the question!

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    ENT has demonstrated he enjoys winding people up. It is part of his psychiatric condition.

    I THINK his position is that he agrees that planes did hit the WTC towers, but they did not cause the collapse. But he denies a plane hit the Pentagon.

    After having seen video footage a plane hitting one of the towers, I was amazed it wasn't sliced half through and start to lean immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    ENT has demonstrated he enjoys winding people up. It is part of his psychiatric condition.

    I THINK his position is that he agrees that planes did hit the WTC towers, but they did not cause the collapse. But he denies a plane hit the Pentagon.
    Be that as it may, I just want him to answer my simple question - I am sure he is feverishly Googling as we type.



    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    After having seen video footage a plane hitting one of the towers, I was amazed it wasn't sliced half through and start to lean immediately.
    Wouldn't happen - plane's made of aluminium; building's make of steel columns. The building provided necessary impact absorption by literally tearing the plane apart with the building's structure. (unlike the Pentagon, which was more like solid rock, and carried forth the impact energy of the plane, as it was transmitted to the Pentagon's materials).

    Either way, take some alumnium foil, roll it into a roll, several layers thick, and then drive it into a wall, to get an idea what happened. The few steel components of the plane (turbines, landing gear, etc...) appropriately traveled on, broke off, and were found in the rubble.

    Ditto with the impact site at the Pentagon, where most, if not all, parts of the Boeing 757 were recovered and identified. No big mistery, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Because you'e a believer in the "official"story, not a thinker.

    You may be all you claim to be, but buildings don't fall at freefall speed without an unimpeded path of collapse.
    Nowhere did I voice support for the official story - my opinion as to what happened is indepedent of whatever story the government offers.

    Quite simply, claiming (as your side does) that there are no planes, and that no commercial airliners hit those buildings is unsustainable.

    Why?

    Because those planes, their crews and the passengers on those plane are real! They existed. They had a history. A quick glance at AIRLINERS.NET lets you pull up each of those tailnumbers and their history.

    Those planes, now, no longer exist. The crews that were assigned to them, no longer exist. The passengers, real people, on the passenger manifest of those flights, no longer exist.

    Just answer me one simple question (disregarding, for now, anything about collapsing buildings) :

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?
    THERE WERE NO PASSENGERS ON THE MISSILE THAT STRUCK THE PENTAGON.

    THERE WAS NO SIGN OF A CRASHED AIRLINER Flt 93 IN OHIO

    THE BOEING THAT STRUCK WTC 2 WAS A MILITARY BOEING 767-222 X (BLACK, LONG NOSED, NO WINDOWS)
    Video, below.

    THE BOEING THAT STRUCK WTC1 WAS NOT IDENTIFIED

    NO PARTS WERE FOUND AT WTC TO IDENTIFY ANY AIRLINER.

    ONE UNDERSIZED ENGINE WAS FOUND AT WTC

    Black Boxes

    Contents of Flight Data and Cockpit Voice Recorders Are Missing

    All jetliners are equipped with flight data recorders (FDRs) and cockpit voice recorders (CVRs) contained in "black boxes" designed to survive the most severe crashes. To date, none of the contents of any of the black boxes have been released to the public, With the exception of a partial transcript of Flight 93's CVR, the contents of any of the black boxes remained unknown to the public until August of 2006, when the National Security Archive published long-hidden NTSB Reports including flight path and other studies of the commandeered flights. The studies include FDR data from Flight 77 and Flight 93. Authorities had previously claimed that all but the voice recorder on Flight 93 were either not recovered or too damaged to yield data. The black boxes of Flight 77 were allegedly found on September 14th. 1 2 3


    This book, written by Gail Swanson, and published in 2003, includes accounts of firefighters Mike Bellone, Robert Barrat, and Nicholas DeMasi.
    According to the federal authorities controlling Ground Zero, the black boxes from the two crashed 767s, Flight 11 and Flight 175, failed to turn up in the rubble taken from the site. 4 The 9/11 Commission Report backs the FBI's story, flatly stating: "The CVRs and FDRs from American 11 and United 175 were not found."
    9-11 Research: Black Boxes



    Video of WTC 2 HIT








    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Answer the question!
    Shut ya quacker duckshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Answer the question!
    Shut ya quacker duckshit!
    I repeat: "Answer the question!"

    As in "what happened to the 4 airliners, their crew and their passengers?"

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    Cthulhu, what we are dealing with is a mental midget who has a lot of perseverance. He'll waste an awful lot of your time if you let him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    After having seen video footage a plane hitting one of the towers, I was amazed it wasn't sliced half through and start to lean immediately.
    That's because you're stupid and;

    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Answer the question!
    Shut ya quacker duckshit!
    I repeat: "Answer the question!"

    As in "what happened to the 4 airliners, their crew and their passengers?"
    I answered your question in the previous post, bigmouth.

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    No, ENT. You have proven time and time and time again that YOU are stupid. And it's all here on TD for all to see.
    Go back to shagging sheep, clodhopper.

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    The official story is that 19 Arabs with box cutters non of whom could fly a plane at all, hijacked four commercial Boeings and drove them into three buildings and one field on 11th Sept. 2001.

    There has been no proof ever been given of that contention.

    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911"

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    Did anyone notice the unidentified flying object cross the sky after the WTC strike?

    Watch it again.

    "But as for the simple mechanics of building collapse, it really _IS_ Popular Mechanics stuff" latindancer re. WTC 911"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    After having seen video footage a plane hitting one of the towers, I was amazed it wasn't sliced half through and start to lean immediately.
    and yet you are not amazed when the building collapse in a perfect pancake fashion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I answered your question in the previous post, bigmouth.
    No, you did not - you gave a lot of responses to questions I didn't ask.

    I repeat: "Answer the question!"

    As in "what happened to the 4 airliners, their crew and their passengers?"

    I'm not asking about missiles, about impacts, about falling buildings or anything else of a peripheral nature.

    I ask you, what happened to these and their crews:

    - American [at]Airlines Flight 11, a Boeing 767-200ER, 81 passengers - Tail ID: N334AA
    - United Flight 175, a Boeing 767-200ER, 56 passengers - Tail ID: N644AA
    - American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757-200, 58 passengers - Tail ID: N334AA
    - United Airlines Flight 93, a Boeing 757-200, 81 passengers37 - Tail ID: N334AA

    (the links take you to historical data for the respective planes)

    These planes were real, they had history, as did the crew and the passengers. They are now gone.

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    non of whom could fly a plane at all

    There has been no proof ever been given of that contention.
    Another example of your misinfomation.
    They went to flight school in the USA, and it's well known and documented. The school (or someone there) was a little suspicious that they only wanted to learn certain parts of the process.

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