Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

harry, did you listen to this man's input in that ^^ video?



About how his son died? What he thinks of Robert Mueller? Did you hear when he said "I have no problem with Muslims, they had absolutely nothing to with my son's death(paraphrased)."

No you didn't, did you? Yeah he's a real window licker...

Same man several years back. Bob McIlvaine:

Bob McIlvaine, a former history teacher from Oreland, PA, is one of the most outspoken 9/11 family members. His son, Robert McIlvaine, Jr. (Princeton University '97) was Assistant Vice-President of Media Relations for Merrill Lynch & Co. and perished at the World Trade Center's North Tower on September 11, 2001. From the evidence that Bob has gathered, it is apparent his son was killed by an explosion, likely in the lobby.

Bob is one of the family members who attended every 9/11 Commission hearing as well as numerous 9/11 Truth conferences around the world. He has appeared in several TV, radio and newspaper interviews, as well as the documentary 9/11: Press For Truth, and commercial TV spots on behalf of BuildingWhat.org, calling attention to the mysterious collapse of a third WTC tower which was not hit by an airplane.

I had to look up "Lord Haw haw".

But it's spot on, what foobar calls you hairy, you are indeed a treasonous turn coat.

A traitor, a malign cell, a dirty corporate sell-out.

Yes, describes you to a tee.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere's the poster boy for whackjob youtube videos!

The conspiracy movement is a real tribute to human stupidity and gullibility, especially in this case. It is entirely feasible that the fireball came down the building when it collapsed, and blew out windows etc. Basically, a building that had been burning for some time at great heat, pancaked, collapsing quickly. How could it NOT cause injuries at ground level similar to those of an explosion ???

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Basically, a building that had been burning for some time at great heat, pancaked, collapsing quickly. How could it NOT cause injuries at ground level similar to those of an explosion ???

Errm, because this particular victim was entering the building before or simultaneously any plane hit. Do you think he'd have tried to enter it after the impact? So, it had not been burning "for some time".

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How could it NOT cause injuries at ground level similar to those of an explosion ???

Cuz of this:-

this becomes even more impossible, he argues, when you consider that the tower was divided into three vertical sections. Each elevator (except for the basement-to-penthouse maintenance elevator) serviced only one section. Thus, someone travelling from top to bottom would have had to take three different elevators. This configuration would have prevented fuel from pouring down the multiple elevator shafts and causing all that destruction.

In short, says McIlvaine, “It’s impossible for a fireball to come down that far and create that kind of damage.”

In short, says McIlvaine, “It’s impossible for a fireball to come down that far and create that kind of damage.”

The official account says McIlvaine's eldest son — an aspiring fiction writer who graduated from Princeton University — was working as a media relations specialist for Merrill Lynch on the 106th floor when American Airlines Flight 11 struck the north tower.

McIlvaine suspects otherwise. Based on injuries his son sustained, including to his face and chest, he maintains Bobby was killed by an explosion, possibly before the plane crash. As Bobby was among the first 10 bodies found, he says, McIlvaine believes his son was in the tower's lobby.

For his part, McIlvaine doesn't care about the Truther movement one way or the other, or about the many articles and investigations that have debunked 9/11 conspiracy theories.
He remains convinced about his own narrative.

So this delusional grieving father just made up a story about his son not being at work in the place where he worked and at the time he was supposed to be at work and decided he was downstairs instead - without any evidence.

You fucking morons.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So this delusional grieving father just made up a story about his son not being at work in the place where he worked and at the time he was supposed to be at work and decided he was downstairs instead - without any evidence.

If you think about it, Harry, your response here is exactly the type of response Trumptards make on other issues; full of hopeful imagination and cynical imagination.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The official account says McIlvaine's eldest son

So the official version is the correct version? And you call us 'Morons'? Nice one Hairy.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

If you think about it, Harry, your response here is exactly the type of response Trumptards make on other issues; full of hopeful imagination and cynical imagination.

"Imagination" is when you take the premise that a bloke who rightfully be expected to be in his office during working hours would randomly not be in his office just because you think so.

But of course I'd expect that to go over your head.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

So the official version is the correct version? And you call us 'Morons'? Nice one Hairy.

It seems you have very little understanding of the word "official". In the lower IQ whackjob's lexicon, this means "Not to be believed".

To normal people, it simply means:

adjective

1. 1.
   relating to an authority or public body and its activities and responsibilities.
   
   
   
   

The official version also claims a plane hit the Pentagon and a plane crashed near Shanksville. Next Hairy you'll be telling us is that Libya had weapons of mass destruction.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

The official version also claims a plane hit the Pentagon and a plane crashed near Shanksville. Next Hairy you'll be telling us is that Libya had weapons of mass destruction.

Oh look, let's try and change the subject and conflate two completely unrelated news stories in a feeble attempt at making an argument.

And that's another silly 9/11 fairy tale down the toilet then.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"Imagination" is when you take the premise that a bloke who rightfully be expected to be in his office during working hours would randomly not be in his office just because you think so.

But of course I'd expect that to go over your head.

No, imagination is speculating at what time he was supposed to be at the conference and ignoring that his body was found outside the building with evidence of glass shrapnel having killed him before the building collapsed.
Your argument makes no sense at all. Whether or not he was supposed to be in his office is irrelevant. The fact is he was found by medics before the collapse.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

No, imagination is speculating at what time he was supposed to be at the conference and ignoring that his body was found outside the building with evidence of glass shrapnel having killed him before the building collapsed.
Your argument makes no sense at all. Whether or not he was supposed to be in his office is irrelevant. The fact is he was found by medics before the collapse.

Let's see this evidence about the medic finding him outside the building before it collapsed shall we, and about him being at some conference then.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Let's see this evidence about the medic finding him outside the building before it collapsed shall we

You only believe the official versions of 9/11 so here ya go.

The official government narrative (the nonsense narrative) claims that a fireball from the plane’s impact descended down the elevators and blew into the lobby. On its way down, the fireball bypassed the skylobbies and damaged only some of the floors on its 93-floor descent. The fireball allegedly also blew out the 72nd and 23rd floor — then found its way to the lobby and killed Bobby McIlvaine who was entering the building.
His body was one of the first to be recovered and taken to the New York City morgue before the building collapsed.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

You only believe the official versions of 9/11 so here ya go.

But do you have a link that isn't a whackjob website?

You know, like the commission report.

'Cuz you do know whackjobs make shit up, right?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You know, like the commission report.

'Cuz you do know whackjobs make shit up, right?

Commission report being correct over everything else? Yor havin a laaarrrfffff Hairy.

people are idiots, why not lie to them? they don't deserve the truth

Originally Posted by SKkin

The US Government's official version of 9/11 was an even bigger lie than this one(Iraq WMD):





I have thought that the official 9/11 narrative was a lie from the very beginning. Long before any "9/11 truthers" came around.

Even though I had no family members killed that day, I understand the anger Bob McIlvaine speaks of. I am angry about what has transpired since, all excused by the official lies.

It is a national disgrace.

Oooooo I hope you were puffing your little chest out when you wrote all that.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Commission report being correct over everything else? Yor havin a laaarrrfffff Hairy.

So that's your reason for posting any old fairytale bollocks and claiming that it's true, even when it provably isn't.

Robert Mueller and the 9/11 "investigation"

Mueller’s History of Cover-Ups

Describing Mueller’s role in the BCCI cover-up more clearly, reporter Chris Floyd wrote:

“When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI’s operations in the late Eighties, President George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. The U.S. Senate later found that the probe had been unaccountably ‘botched’–witnesses went missing, CIA records got ‘lost,’… Lower-ranking prosecutors told of heavy pressure from on high to ‘lay off.’ Most of the big BCCI players went unpunished or, like [Khalib bin] Mahfouz, got off with wrist-slap fines and sanctions. Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001–by George W. Bush.”

Yes, in the summer of 2001, when the new Bush Administration suspected it would soon need a cover-up, Mueller was brought in for the job. Although suspect Louis Freeh was FBI Director in the lead-up to the crimes, Mueller knew enough to keep things under wraps. He also had some interesting ties to other 9/11 suspects like Rudy Giuliani, whose career paralleled Mueller’s closely during the Reagan and first Bush administrations.

Under Mueller, the FBI began the whitewash of 9/11 immediately. Mueller himself lied repeatedly in the direct aftermath with respect to FBI knowledge of the accused hijackers. He claimed that the alleged hijackers left no paper trail, and suggested that they exercised “extraordinary secrecy” and “discipline never broke down.” In fact, “ring leader” Mohamed Atta went to great lengths to draw attention to himself prior to the attacks. Moreover, the evidence the accused men supposedly left behind was obvious and implausibly convenient for the FBI.

Meanwhile, Mueller’s FBI immediately seized control of the investigations at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA where United Flight 93 was destroyed. Under Mueller, leaders of the Bureau went on to arrest and intimidate witnesses, destroy or withhold evidence, and prevent any independent investigation. With Mueller in the lead, the FBI failed to cooperate with the government investigations into 9/11 and failed miserably to perform basic investigatory tasks. Instead, Mueller celebrated some of the most egregious pre-9/11 failures of the FBI by giving those involved promotions, awards, and cash bonuses.

As FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley later wrote with regard to 9/11, “Robert Mueller (and James Comey as deputy attorney general) presided over a cover-up.” Kristen Breitweiser, one of the four 9/11 widows known as the “Jersey Girls,” stated something similar:

“Mueller and other FBI officials had purposely tried to keep any incriminating information specifically surrounding the Saudis out of the Inquiry’s investigative hands. To repeat, there was a concerted effort by the FBI and the Bush Administration to keep incriminating Saudi evidence out of the Inquiry’s investigation.”

Supporting Breitweiser’s claims, public watchdog agency Judicial Watch emphasized Mueller’s role in the cover-up.

“Though the recently filed court documents reveal Mueller received a briefing about the Sarasota Saudi investigation, the FBI continued to publicly deny it existed and it appears that the lies were approved by Mueller.”

Mueller’s FBI went on to “botch” the investigation into the October 2001 anthrax attacks. As expected, the result was a long series of inexplicable diversions that led nowhere. The anthrax attacks occurred at a time when Mueller himself was warning Americans that another 9/11 could occur at any time (despite his lack of interest in the first one). They also provided the emotional impetus for Americans and Congress to accept the Patriot Act, which had been written prior to 9/11. Exactly why Mueller’s expertise was needed is not yet known but examining the evidence suggests that the anthrax attackers were the same people who planned 9/11.

With knowledge of Mueller’s past, people can see that he is not in the news today to reveal important information about Russia and the Trump Administration. To the contrary, Mueller is in the news to divert attention away from important information and, most likely, to prevent the Trump Administration from being scrutinized in any real way.

There sure is a lot of smoke for there not to be any fire. Of course all these stories are the products of lying wackjobs, right harry? I understand some of the following are opinion pieces.

Although IMO all this finger pointing at Saudis is just another misdirection away from pinpointing the real perps. Not saying that Saudis played no role at all in 9/11...


Why Did Robert Mueller Obstruct Congress’s 9/11 Probe?
https://original.antiwar.com/justin/...sss-911-probe/

9/11 Whistleblower Rowley on Mueller’s History of “Cover-up”
9/11 Whistleblower Rowley on Mueller?s History of ?Cover-up? | Accuracy.Org

Robert Mueller involved in FBI release of deceptive statements about Sarasota 9/11 probe
Robert Mueller involved in FBI release of deceptive statements about Sarasota 9/11 probe

Robert Mueller’s Questionable Past
Robert Mueller's Questionable Past - 911Truth.Org %

Robert Mueller's forgotten surveillance crime spree
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal...ce-crime-spree

Robert Mueller was the biggest obstacle for Sept. 11 families who wanted to sue Saudi Arabia
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...e-saudi-arabia

At FBI, Mueller Oversaw Post-9/11 Abuses
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/2...t-911-torture/


Anthrax And “Russiagate”: Mueller’s Special Counsel Appointment Should Raise Concern


Good Agent, Bad Agent: Robert Mueller and 9-11