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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    And what percentage of the population is too sick? State I.D.s last for several years. I had one once (in addition to my driver's license). What percentage of people are too poor to pay $11 dollars for a state ID that lasts for several years? ($11 in my state is what it costs). Too elderly? My grandmother is 96 years old. She has photo ID. "Opposition" does not want these people to vote? I do not think they care. The numbers (as you state) are too low for any "opposition" to want them not to vote.
    Once again you either miss or avoid the point.
    The point is that there has never been established a problem of voter fraud at the ballot box.
    You offer a "solution" in search of a problem.

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    The US is in desperate need of electoral reform. Having the electoral processes controlled by elected officials in each state facilitates political manipulation. Florida is a perfect example where Rick Scott introduced limitations on early voting seemingly by whim. Standards on elections procedures in the US should be set by the federal government and supervised by an independent body of officials not beholden to any political party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Standards on elections procedures in the US should be set by the federal government and supervised by an independent body of officials not beholden to any political party.
    Now there is a demonstrable problem with a history that needs a soulution.

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    Indeed- as I've pointed out, there are two states in the US where you can vote while in jail, another two states where you can never vote again if jailed. It is just ridiculous that fifty individual states have mandate over the right to vote in national elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    It is just ridiculous that fifty individual states have mandate over the right to vote in national elections.
    Agree but not so simple. Single ballots are used for all. National and local candidates/measures. Separate ballots for every precinct.

    If different rules for eligibility between local and federal would really make voting and counting complicated.

    A sample/typical ballot here.

    http://www.sos.state.nm.us/uploads/F...WSAM-001.1.pdf
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    If it were that simple...the short answer is "Federalism" and the rights given to the States and confirmed in the 14th amendment to the Constitution. As it is, and as it should be, the voting franchise is removed from those convicted of Felonies in most instances....I can think of.

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    Never existed eh? Well Sir, it did for me and mine.....say what you may, the country was ready willing and able to work hard for what it got. Today...we look more like England..God help us.

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