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Mid · 18-03-2008, 10:46 PM

Briton nabbed for encroaching on public land in Samui

BANGKOK, March 18 (TNA) – A British businessman was arrested on Tuesday for allegedly encroaching on public land on the southern resort island of Samui, according to a senior officer at the Department of Special Investigation (DSI).

DSI spokesman Pol. Col. Narat Sawetanant said at a press conference on Tuesday Laurence Daniel James Fay, 32, was to face charges against Mr. Fay for hiring a Thai nominee to run a real estate company.

As founder of Sabai Thani Property Co Ltd, Mr. Fay purchased several plots of public land on Samui Island before constructing a condominium and housing community, according to the spokesman.

Col. Narat added Mr. Fay owned 49 per cent of the company shares, but that he had hired a number of Thai nationals to possess the other remaining 51 per cent of the shares, making him the de facto owner of the company.

DSI will ask the Land Department to revoke the company's ownership, which might affect a large number of Sabai Thani clients, said the DSI spokesman.

If found guilty, the suspect might face a maximum of three years imprisonment. (TNA)-E002

enews.mcot.net

Sabai Thani Luxury Villas and Apartments, Samui

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Marmite the Dog · 19-03-2008, 12:55 AM

Surely, by Thai law, the other shareholders should be in the shit just as badly, as nominee shareholders are not recognised as such?

Spin · 19-03-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mid

Department of Special Investigation (DSI).

These guys are gonna be busy on Samui, and they're gonna end up with a right few quids worth of properties on their hands.

dirtydog · 19-03-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Surely, by Thai law, the other shareholders should be in the shit just as badly, as nominee shareholders are not recognised as such?

Nope, They are nice Thai people that have been duped by Mr Nasty Farang....

John · 19-03-2008, 12:08 PM

I feel that people like Mr. Fay should not have ANY visa for Thailand - or perhaps even any other country... Thailand has criminals enough. No need for an import.

klongmaster · 19-03-2008, 12:24 PM

Sabai Thani Luxury Villas and Apartments, Samui

This headland site is exceptionally beautiful and sits directly above the ocean with stunning sea views both towards Big Buddah and the internationally famous fishing village of Bo Phut. To date the infrastructure for the entire site and the construction of the first three villas has been completed. The project benefits from its own ample supply of water taken from deep water wells located on the site as well as an independent electricity system for the entire project.

The master plan has recently been revised and the project will now consist of 15 luxury villas and 26 one and two bed apartments all with stunning sea views. Construction work on the first apartment complex started in mid 2005 and new villa construction on the remaining units will continue through 2005.

Sabai Thani has four different villa designs which can be tailor made to suit the individual owners demands:
* Tawan 3 bed approx 217 sq.m
* Prajan 3/4 bed approx 313 sq.m
* Don Duern 3/4 bed approx 372 sq.m
* Type 4 3/4 bed currently under design

Alongside the 15 luxury villas, there will be 26 one and two bed apartments built in four 3 storey blocks. Each block will contain:

* 3 one bed apartments of approx 87 sq.m
* 2 two bed apartments of approx 150 sq.m
* 2 two bed penthouse apartments with magnificent roof terraces. Total sq.m approx 270 sq.m

To date over 70% of the villas have been sold and the first block currently under construction is nearly sold out

To receive the latest information package with complete specifications, layouts and pricing structure either phone +66 2 646 1500 or e-mail us on
sabaithani[at]martellorealty.com
www.sabaiproperties.com

Texpat · 19-03-2008, 12:37 PM

Wonder if he did a deed search of the property before busting up the "public land" to start building his condos with stunning sea view?

When my wife and I bought our poxy few rai, I suggested to the seller and my wife that we all go down to the local land office together and research the ownership of the land with assistance from the clerk at the office.

The seller poo-pooed my suggestion pointing to the shiny embossed garuda on the chanote, and my wife started into me with, it really isn't necessary and it's not how it's done here.

Bullshit. That's how people get taken. That's probably why Fay will be fried.

Thetyim · 19-03-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mid

Col. Narat added Mr. Fay owned 49 per cent of the company shares, but that he had hired a number of Thai nationals to possess the other remaining 51 per cent of the shares, making him the de facto owner of the company.

So how would that fit in with the Temasak/Shinawatra problem?
or is Col. Narat making up the rules as he goes.?

Mid · 19-03-2008, 12:57 PM

^

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Katana · 19-03-2008, 09:14 PM

Hi

Ahh what exactly is the problem here the story says 'encroachment of public land' ie using or taking public land but describes the use of fake directors to circumvent the no foriegn ownership of Thai land.

Either way this guy looks to be deep in the poo although with no finger pointing pictures his guilt is still in doubt.

Mark

stroller · 19-03-2008, 09:27 PM

I feel sorry for the people who bought property from him, they'll be in dire straights without any fault on their part.

EmperorTud · 21-03-2008, 09:23 AM

They should clean up Samui and start with the foreigners making fat profits by lying to other foreigners and selling them land they cannot legally own.

Over on the forum of strict moderation a couple of his mates are losing the plot.

English Noodles · 23-03-2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

a couple of his mates are losing the plot.

Pun intended?

EmperorTud · 23-03-2008, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

a couple of his mates are losing the plot.

Pun intended?

EmperorTud · 23-03-2008, 07:41 AM

They've shut the thread over there because some guy was threatening legal action against them.

I really have nothing but contempt for that forum now and their inability to allow open discussion.

taxexile · 25-03-2008, 12:48 PM

inclined to agree with you mr tud , that thread was just starting to get interesting. i was sorry to see it closed.

i dont know if sites are legally responsible for the nature of the posts they host.

a hua hin website decided to close a property development related thread a few days ago after they reported being threatened by "influential and powerful people".

posters on the thread were naming and shaming developers that werent keeping to their contracts.

all relevant posts were deleted.

sunsetter · 30-03-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

I feel that people like Mr. Fay should not have ANY visa for Thailand - or perhaps even any other country... Thailand has criminals enough. No need for an import.

very true and wise words i would say, let them get what they deserve, would they get away with it at home? dont think so

Troubled · 30-03-2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Surely, by Thai law, the other shareholders should be in the shit just as badly, as nominee shareholders are not recognised as such?

Agreed that was my understanding. The government would put pressure on the Thai nominees for them to show they were true owners of the company and had paid for their shareholding and if not they would all be in the soup.

I am guessing that perhaps when necessary DD's explanantion is put into effect

chinthee · 30-03-2008, 06:56 PM

Samui is much messier than Phuket in this regard. Most of the scams have already been tried here so buyers are much smarter...usually.

Dougal · 30-03-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taxexile

a hua hin website decided to close a property development related thread a few days ago after they reported being threatened by "influential and powerful people".

You mean that the influential and powerful people threatened to stop advertising on their web site?

18-03-2008, 10:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mid Nautical Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,941	Briton nabbed for encroaching on public land in Samui Briton nabbed for encroaching on public land in Samui BANGKOK, March 18 (TNA) – A British businessman was arrested on Tuesday for allegedly encroaching on public land on the southern resort island of Samui, according to a senior officer at the Department of Special Investigation (DSI). DSI spokesman Pol. Col. Narat Sawetanant said at a press conference on Tuesday Laurence Daniel James Fay, 32, was to face charges against Mr. Fay for hiring a Thai nominee to run a real estate company. As founder of Sabai Thani Property Co Ltd, Mr. Fay purchased several plots of public land on Samui Island before constructing a condominium and housing community, according to the spokesman. Col. Narat added Mr. Fay owned 49 per cent of the company shares, but that he had hired a number of Thai nationals to possess the other remaining 51 per cent of the shares, making him the de facto owner of the company. DSI will ask the Land Department to revoke the company's ownership, which might affect a large number of Sabai Thani clients, said the DSI spokesman. If found guilty, the suspect might face a maximum of three years imprisonment. (TNA)-E002 enews.mcot.net Sabai Thani Luxury Villas and Apartments, Samui . __________________ "Keeping quiet while monks and other peaceful protesters are murdered and jailed is not evidence of constructive engagement." - Arvind Ganesan, Human Rights Watch. "I think...I think it's in my basement. Let me go upstairs and check" - M.C. Escher

19-03-2008, 12:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
klongmaster Elite Member Last Online: Today 12:49 PM Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Encircled by love Posts: 3,433	Sabai Thani Luxury Villas and Apartments, Samui This headland site is exceptionally beautiful and sits directly above the ocean with stunning sea views both towards Big Buddah and the internationally famous fishing village of Bo Phut. To date the infrastructure for the entire site and the construction of the first three villas has been completed. The project benefits from its own ample supply of water taken from deep water wells located on the site as well as an independent electricity system for the entire project. The master plan has recently been revised and the project will now consist of 15 luxury villas and 26 one and two bed apartments all with stunning sea views. Construction work on the first apartment complex started in mid 2005 and new villa construction on the remaining units will continue through 2005. Sabai Thani has four different villa designs which can be tailor made to suit the individual owners demands: * Tawan 3 bed approx 217 sq.m * Prajan 3/4 bed approx 313 sq.m * Don Duern 3/4 bed approx 372 sq.m * Type 4 3/4 bed currently under design Alongside the 15 luxury villas, there will be 26 one and two bed apartments built in four 3 storey blocks. Each block will contain: * 3 one bed apartments of approx 87 sq.m * 2 two bed apartments of approx 150 sq.m * 2 two bed penthouse apartments with magnificent roof terraces. Total sq.m approx 270 sq.m To date over 70% of the villas have been sold and the first block currently under construction is nearly sold out To receive the latest information package with complete specifications, layouts and pricing structure either phone +66 2 646 1500 or e-mail us on sabaithani[at]martellorealty.com www.sabaiproperties.com __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

19-03-2008, 09:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Katana Rayong Last Online: 01-12-2008 07:43 PM Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chiang Mai Posts: 214	Hi Ahh what exactly is the problem here the story says 'encroachment of public land' ie using or taking public land but describes the use of fake directors to circumvent the no foriegn ownership of Thai land. Either way this guy looks to be deep in the poo although with no finger pointing pictures his guilt is still in doubt. Mark __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pirates Cove Bar : Food, Drinks and Accommodation. 58/60 Ratchamankha Rd Chiang Mai.

19-03-2008, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Marmite the Dog Too drunk to fuck Last Online: Today 12:27 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fuckwitistan Posts: 25,919	Surely, by Thai law, the other shareholders should be in the shit just as badly, as nominee shareholders are not recognised as such?

19-03-2008, 12:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
John Kamphaeng Phet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pattaya Posts: 334	I feel that people like Mr. Fay should not have ANY visa for Thailand - or perhaps even any other country... Thailand has criminals enough. No need for an import.

19-03-2008, 12:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Yesterday 01:21 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 9,788	Wonder if he did a deed search of the property before busting up the "public land" to start building his condos with stunning sea view? When my wife and I bought our poxy few rai, I suggested to the seller and my wife that we all go down to the local land office together and research the ownership of the land with assistance from the clerk at the office. The seller poo-pooed my suggestion pointing to the shiny embossed garuda on the chanote, and my wife started into me with, it really isn't necessary and it's not how it's done here. Bullshit. That's how people get taken. That's probably why Fay will be fried.

19-03-2008, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mid Nautical Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,941	^ wordpress.com

19-03-2008, 09:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 01-07-2008 11:03 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,181	I feel sorry for the people who bought property from him, they'll be in dire straights without any fault on their part.

21-03-2008, 09:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
EmperorTud Twisted Mentat Last Online: Today 05:05 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LV-426 Posts: 3,915	They should clean up Samui and start with the foreigners making fat profits by lying to other foreigners and selling them land they cannot legally own. Over on the forum of strict moderation a couple of his mates are losing the plot.

23-03-2008, 07:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
EmperorTud Twisted Mentat Last Online: Today 05:05 AM Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LV-426 Posts: 3,915	They've shut the thread over there because some guy was threatening legal action against them. I really have nothing but contempt for that forum now and their inability to allow open discussion.

25-03-2008, 12:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
taxexile Khao San Road Last Online: 01-12-2008 09:16 AM Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 59	inclined to agree with you mr tud , that thread was just starting to get interesting. i was sorry to see it closed. i dont know if sites are legally responsible for the nature of the posts they host. a hua hin website decided to close a property development related thread a few days ago after they reported being threatened by "influential and powerful people". posters on the thread were naming and shaming developers that werent keeping to their contracts. all relevant posts were deleted.

30-03-2008, 06:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 23-09-2008 07:21 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,033	Samui is much messier than Phuket in this regard. Most of the scams have already been tried here so buyers are much smarter...usually.