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    @ Sharks kill this many people a year, people kill this many sharks an hour. (too long to quote)

    Good, see how well it's working, we are clearly winning.

    Difficult to think of a more horrible way to die. I read a book called "In Harms Way" about 10 years back, it was the story of the USS Indianapolis, difficult to read with tears in your eyes. Worth the read though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    I can probably speak for 90% of the scuba diving community. Diving with sharks is an all too rare privilidge. Its one of the best diving experiences.
    Agreed.

    I did three shark dives at Burma Banks in the Andaman Sea. Not just one of the best diving experiences, but also one of the best life experiences I've had. Loads of big Silver Tips. Was hoping for Hammerheads, but they never showed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Good, see how well it's working, we are clearly winning.
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Difficult to think of a more horrible way to die.
    I would imaging dying, while having next to know understanding of how important beautiful living creatures are, would be a pretty shitty way to go.

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    Interesting comments from the divers. (However, I thought that was a spinner dolphin, not a shark??)

    I understand blue sharks, black-tip reef sharks, bull sharks, makos, and tiger sharks are the ones to watch out for in relatively shallow water (and occasionally great whites), and oceanic whitetips were the real harbingers of death out at open sea.

    I guess it is just like being struck by lightening; the odds are against it, but if you are the one hit, the statistics don't matter a whit.

    As for "animals are afraid of man", I think that axiom only applies to the generations of animals that are routinely killed by man.

    In areas where the animals aren't routinely killed, the resident population can get real aggressive real quick.

    Spend some time in sub-Sahara Africa and you might find that there are a whole lot of animals that routinely prey on people as a food source.

    Good info.

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    ToddDaniels,

    Your post reminds me a lot of the rhetoric taught by the "Grizzly Man". He was a "self-appointed" bear expert who managed to survive several summers living with the Kodiak bears. He taught (gullible school teachers and students) about how we were much more of a threat to the bears, then were the bears to us.

    You and him could probably have some nice conversations. Uh, unfortunately, him and his girlfriend were killed and eaten one night by a bear who hadn't attended one of his classes on bear behavior.

    Cheers,

    RickThai

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post

    I can probably speak for 90% of the scuba diving community.

    Diving with sharks is an all too rare privilidge.

    Its one of the best diving experiences.

    Did the other 10% get eaten ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post

    I can probably speak for 90% of the scuba diving community.

    Diving with sharks is an all too rare privilidge.

    Its one of the best diving experiences.

    Did the other 10% get eaten ?
    Good question (or is "rare" used as in "medium rare")?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    What has been the experience and opinions of shark encounters with the TD divers?
    Out of Cape Tribulation in Northern Australia, maybe a 3 hour ride out on a decent sized boat, my buddy fuked off and left me (a bloody Aussie wanted to dive to 60m to do a swimthrough, I'd only just done my open water...), so there I was minding me own business near the surface when a stingray of some sort shot under me at full speed probably less than a metre away. Just as I was thinking why he/she would do that and a probable thought came into my head... a 3 metre shark of some type shot under me too (less than a metre, virtually touching me), then it stopped, and started circling me (the amazing thing was the speed; I couldn't turn my head quickly enough to follow it...), getting closer and closer. Being a wimp, I started panicking and realized that I was about to drown, so I closed my eyes and focussed on breathing. By the time I had controlled my breathing, and opened my eyes, the bastard had fuked off. Made me realise how silly the tarzanesque shark/croc fighting ideas are; the bloody things move like lightening, you'd have zero chance of defending yerself...

    A couple of weeks later, I went to Townsville and dived in the aquarium with the small blacktip sharks just to get a bit of confidence back; not sure it worked. I went off to the red sea and did some TDI deep diving courses, but never really felt comfortable in the water again; also did a divemaster and instructor course, but reckoned it wasn't the career for me. Bloody hate sharks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post

    I can probably speak for 90% of the scuba diving community.

    Diving with sharks is an all too rare privilidge.

    Its one of the best diving experiences.

    Did the other 10% get eaten ?
    Read the post above this for your answer.......

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    ^^Sharks indeed are speedy fuckers. Never see them until they're almost on you, especially in murky water.

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    [quote=BobR;2536656]@ Sharks kill this many people a year, people kill this many sharks an hour. (too long to quote)

    Good, see how well it's working, we are clearly winning.

    Difficult to think of a more horrible way to die. /quote]

    Well, having cut your fins off and thrown back into the ocean while still alive isn`t a good way to go either.

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    Sharks don't come into the bar where I'm drinking so I don't go in the water.

    Simple really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    Sharks indeed are speedy fuckers. Never see them until they're almost on you, especially in murky water.
    I remember on dive boats in the red sea, coming back around dusk, dolphins would sometimes come close to the boats and folks would want to jump in to swim with them. The Egyptians would point out the large shadows behind and deeper than the dolphins and say 'Oceanic Whitetips' - that kept the people out of the water...

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    ^Yep. I saw a lot of sharks in the Red Sea. I was diving on the Saudi side, where diving was not allowed without a special permit (plus Saudis don't go near the water, they're no tourists allowed, and very few western foreign worker divers), so it was totally unspoiled (other than the fact that the water touched Saudi Arabia). Tremendous diving! Unfortunately, I lived in Dhahran, so couldn't get down to Jeddah as often as I would have liked.

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    Lots of big Manta Rays too, close to the rocky dropoffs, very shallow - one came up behind me and scared the crap out of me once... I'd just caught my skin in my zipper (chest area) and blood was pissing out, so I wasn't keen on seeing a 'shark' at that moment. The funny thing was when the other divers saw I was bleeding they all started to scatter away from me in all directions...

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    Been nibbled on by a shark, after going sear fishing of Foster Tuncurry NSW.

    I have nithing but respect for these amazingly beautiful creatures,

    I used to like Ron and Valerie Taylor but as I started to dive more, I had pretty much loathing for the misinformation they spread, I do think in fairness years later they to said they had made a mistake killing so many sharks.

    Where do you find bears and lions at the same place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTO View Post
    Where do you find bears and lions at the same place?
    The zoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post

    Out of Cape Tribulation in Northern Australia my buddy fuked off and left me (a bloody Aussie wanted to dive to 60m to do a swimthrough.


    I realize us Aussies are pretty friggin stupid mate but I doubt that your mate would of got anywhere near 60 metres on his compressed air and especially to do a swim through.

    30 meters is recreational diving depth and over that ones really cutting into diving time and risking having to decompress if not watching your dive time very carefully.

    My mate and I hit around 45 metres once but it was a bounce dive only to cut a rope from some coral. That was in the Andaman sea.

    Really cut the dive short and sent the dive computer spinning. Na, your Aussie mate would not of got anywhere near 60 metres and was pissing in your pocket.

    Regards bull sharks, these sharks have been responsible for many attacks on swimmers and divers as there unpredictable. In Perth many years ago we had a few swimmers killed by bull sharks that had entered the river.

    On Koh Tao bull sharks hang around the Pinnacle but as has been said are rarely seen these days as there's hundreds of divers everyday diving that pinnacle.

    They keep away from the divers.

    Iv'e seen the whale sharks out there and the've even been spotted at White Rock which ain't far off shore. Got to be lucky to see the whale sharks around Tao but quite a few divers get the privilege.
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    Learn to dive Terry.

    From my log book 18feb00
    Al Ulm Red Sea 70 west of Amoq depth 64.8m total time 48 minutes
    standard aluminium tank

    Followed P down. could hear dolphins during whole of dive. Sharks on the way down with white tip resting on sand at 65m. Slowly ascended and did deco stops at 9,6,3 metres. Reached surface with 50 bar.

    pod of dolphins swam under us as we swam to boat. Large school 40+ barracuda around us at 10m. Pod of dolphins overhead.

    Average depth 21.7m water temp 28.7c.

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    Yep. I saw a lot of sharks in the Red Sea. I was diving on the Saudi side, where diving was not allowed without a special permit
    Where is that? We dived all around Jeddah and never had permits.
    We even dived off the corniche, just making sure that we waited until the coast guard passed before racing down and into/under the water before they realised what was happening. A couple of time they were waiting for us when we came back up, but by that time the dive was done...so we just laughed and gave them a "Mafi mushkila" (no problem)

    When diving the Mecca Wreck, it took too long to get out of the shallows before you could descend, so we always called into the local Coast Guard to ask permission. They never denied that we could dive.

    All the private beaches and dive boats were OK.

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    Tizme it's an eastern province thing. Red sea side doesn't require it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CTO View Post
    Where do you find bears and lions at the same place?
    The zoo.
    Took the words right out of my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    Sharks indeed are speedy fuckers. Never see them until they're almost on you, especially in murky water.
    I remember on dive boats in the red sea, coming back around dusk, dolphins would sometimes come close to the boats and folks would want to jump in to swim with them. The Egyptians would point out the large shadows behind and deeper than the dolphins and say 'Oceanic Whitetips' - that kept the people out of the water...
    I wonder if the Oceanic's were using the dolphins as bait?

    Great story.

    RickThai

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    My mate and I hit around 45 metres once but it was a bounce dive only to cut a rope from some coral. That was in the Andaman sea.

    Really cut the dive short and sent the dive computer spinning. Na, your Aussie mate would not of got anywhere near 60 metres and was pissing in your pocket.

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    Dive buddy and I bounced 50 meters plus - really bounced - hit it and started up. Finsihed the dive with the rest of the group no problems.

    My suunto got f*cked, but it did not bother the Oceanic at all.

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    Sharks kill sharks too


    Researchers with the University of Delaware’s Ocean Exploration – Remote Sensing – Biogeography Group posted this photo of a shark eating a shark in the Delaware Bay on July 21, 2013.

    NBC News shared a photo taken recently in Delaware Bay by a research team from the University of Delaware. They were rounding up tiger sharks, which they had previously tagged with remote trackers, when a small three-foot shark called a smooth dogfish snapped up their bait... and suddenly the circle of life spun a whole lot faster, as a female tiger shark – over three times the little guy's size, as you can see above – jumped up and swallowed the first shark. The tiger was released after her tags were checked, but the little guy wasn't so lucky.

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