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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
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    There should be spaces between the and and and and and and...
    I can remember that one
    Something about signwriting a pub sign was it ?
    Yeah.....that's the one.

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    What is the difference between time, tense, aspect and mood?
    Does the past simple refer only to past time?
    Does the present simple only refer to present time?

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    Good questions benbaaa, though I suspect you know the answers already.

    I'll answer the obvious one first...


    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    Does the present simple only refer to present time?
    No it doesn't.
    It can be used to talk about future time, especially with regard to timetables.

    "the plane takes off at 3.00 tomorrow."

    in joke narrative also.

    "I am in this pub right, when this bird walks in yeah...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    Does the present simple only refer to present time?
    I always call it the 'usual tense', because it refers to what usually happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    Does the past simple refer only to past time?
    I'll have to give this one some thought.

    I had assumed it did.
    I suspect from your question that it doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    Does the past simple refer only to past time?
    still not sure, but how about in the case of formal, polite enquiries.

    "I wonder if you could open the window."

    is this actually the past simple or not?

    or reported speech.

    "He told me he was Welsh."

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    I'd tell you the answer if I knew.

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    He knows.
    I guess he knows.
    I would imagine that he knows.
    I would think that he knew.

    Any help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    I'd tell you the answer if I knew.
    I know that we use the past simple form of the verb in the second conditional, but it's not strictly speaking the past simple tense is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I know that we use the past simple form of the verb in the second conditional, but it's not strictly speaking the past simple tense is it?
    What tense is it, then?

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    the second conditional tense.

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    No such animal.

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    A language consistency question.

    Which is correct, "Chiang Mai Noon" or "ChiangMai noon"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Let's not ruin this thread with the UK vs US English.
    Agree. If a new topic comes up such as above, someone can start a thread about it. There can be good in this section. I always need new ideas and I'll be in the classroom again soon.
    They are both valid and both part of the English language. To suggest one is better than the other is simple bigotry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    The other one has already been answered to my satisfaction by me. there is no difference in usage these days whatever you or Burr believe
    You are wrong and it has become quite fashionable for British people who must not have learnt correct grammar to call all incorrect speech either 'common usage' or 'American English'.

    Did they teach grammar in British schools in the seventies, eighties and nineties?
    English is what is spoken by native English speakers in everyday life. It's dynamic and slowly changes over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    ^
    it's very American.
    they have disposed of the use of the perfect tense.

    "I have done it already"
    becomes
    "I did it already"

    It's twisted and utterly wrong.
    To suggest Americans don't use the present perfect is "twisted and utterly wrong." How long have you lived in the U.S., by the way, to come up with such an informed observation?

    Similarly, Americans say "I've gotten over it" and the British say 'I've got over it," which is correct?

    Neither. It makes no difference to meaning, which is paramount. The rest is chauvinism
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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie View Post
    There are time I will want to use the word "But" to begin a sentence this being a cursed no-no when I was going to school. When, O Great Wise Ones, do you think this is appropriate? When is it not? What are the rules!?!?
    It's a difference of register (formality). "But" is fine at the beginning of an informal written sentence. Otherwise "however" or "on the other hand" or "conversely," followed by a comma, will suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    shit, shat, shit.

    definitively.

    "i shit daily."

    "i shat yesterday"

    "i have shit thrice today, my belly hurts like a tractor"
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowspole View Post
    Isn't that final shit a noun?
    Past-participle! In old days they probably said shat, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I know that we use the past simple form of the verb in the second conditional, but it's not strictly speaking the past simple tense is it?
    What tense is it, then?
    The second conditional is not actually a tense, since it refers to hypothetical or unreal situations.

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    Thanks for boosting the thread so hootad.
    it is meant to be light hearted.

    I base my observations on the lack of perfect usage on teahers that strugle with it more than students especially in regard to the yets and already's.
    also movies and HBO series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I know that we use the past simple form of the verb in the second conditional, but it's not strictly speaking the past simple tense is it?
    What tense is it, then?
    The second conditional is not actually a tense, since it refers to hypothetical or unreal situations.
    Subjunctive, innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    What's the difference between Continually and continuously?
    One vowel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a. boozer
    One vowel.
    And one more post for yet another century....

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    Excellent work me.

    that's number 48 up.

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