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jandajoy · 15-10-2009, 02:24 PM

ABC Fora- Christopher Hitchens and Tony Jones: Does Religion Poison Everything?

I tried copying the link but I can't seem to make it work.

This is really worth listening too.

Christopher Hitchens and Tony Jones: Does Religion Poison Everything? -

Christopher Hitchens: Religion Poisons Everything - RN Fora Radio - 14 October 2009

Butterfly · 15-10-2009, 02:33 PM

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

Rural Surin · 15-10-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

Probably true. Regardless of our principles and positions, we're conditioned to attach ourselves to some inkling of spirituality of some sort. Easily indoctrinated all away around....

jandajoy · 15-10-2009, 02:54 PM

listen to Hitchens. Besides being very funny he makes bloody good sense.

slackula · 15-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God.

Erm, no we don't.

Quote:

There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

Erm, no it's not.

Butterfly · 15-10-2009, 03:56 PM

^ sure, it is

what is your god slack ?

SueB · 15-10-2009, 04:02 PM

My god has an "e" on the end.

Well, in France anyway.

Sue.

DaffyDuck · 15-10-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

No, 'we' do not - only dumb, illiterate people stuck in superstitious muck, with no confidence or trust in themselves 'need' a god.

I guess the shoe fits.

Butterfly · 15-10-2009, 04:44 PM

^ you are the perfect example of a believer Quack Quack,

Mactards are true religious zealots, they believe that Macs make them the disciples of God while in fact they are just lazy little tards.

DaffyDuck · 15-10-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slackula

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God.

Erm, no we don't.

Quote:

There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

Erm, no it's not.

I'd green you, but I'm out of ammo.

slackula · 15-10-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

what is your god slack ?

None, as I said, I am not a religious person in any way.

I don't really have a problem with people believing in whatever they want, as long as they don't try to convert me, but I do get angry when religion is used as an excuse for violence and oppression (which it nearly always is imho).

Personally I reject the notion of any greater powers or whatever you might call them just as I reject the existence of ghosts, easter bunnies, leprechauns etc.

Butterfly · 16-10-2009, 11:24 AM

^ I don't disagree, but religions have nothing to do with God, hence my argument that man are religious animals, they need to organize themselves into communities to believe into something, usually a God or set of principles to guide their life.

We all have religious principles, and we usually follow them.

taxexile · 16-10-2009, 12:18 PM

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We all have religious principles, and we usually follow them.

who are you to speak for the rest of us?

we all have our own moral or immoral principles and usually follow them.

religion is nothing more than a form of indoctrination, used since time immemorial to exert control over and gain submission from populations denied the education and freedoms to REALLY think for themselves on these matters.

christopher hitchens book "god is not great" should be required reading for all and should replace the bible as the font of wisdom and common sense.

Rural Surin · 16-10-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God.

No, 'we' do not - only dumb, illiterate people stuck in superstitious muck, with no confidence or trust in themselves 'need' a god.

I guess the shoe fits.

Dogmatic stimulation or obsession can manifest in numerous forms. Needn't not be invented spirituality nor religion.

shunpike · 16-10-2009, 08:25 PM

Thanks for the link Janda, always enjoy giving Hitchens a listen.

Butterfly · 16-10-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by taxexile

we all have our own moral or immoral principles and usually follow them.

religion is nothing more than a form of indoctrination, used since time immemorial to exert control over and gain submission from populations denied the education and
freedoms to REALLY think for themselves on these matters.

so what kind of God are you following ?

taxexile · 16-10-2009, 10:03 PM

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so what kind of God are you following ?

there is no "god".

Norton · 16-10-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by taxexile

so what kind of God are you following ?

Not this one. Heard some folks do though.

Butterfly · 16-10-2009, 10:19 PM

yes, you are correct Norton, if there is a human face to God, it's sure is Chomsky

Butterfly · 16-10-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by taxexile

there is no "god".

of course there is,

you might not know how it looks like, but we all know logically that it exists. I can prove it.

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15-10-2009, 02:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	Man is a religious animal per se, we all believe in some type of God. It's quite sad but we need God. There is no such thing as an atheist, it's a myth, like the unicorn.

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jandajoy Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 06:02 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 14,192	listen to Hitchens. Besides being very funny he makes bloody good sense.

15-10-2009, 03:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	^ sure, it is what is your god slack ?

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SueB Koh Samui Last Online: Yesterday 03:02 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: England Posts: 51	My god has an "e" on the end. Well, in France anyway. Sue.

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Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	^ you are the perfect example of a believer Quack Quack, Mactards are true religious zealots, they believe that Macs make them the disciples of God while in fact they are just lazy little tards.

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Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	^ I don't disagree, but religions have nothing to do with God, hence my argument that man are religious animals, they need to organize themselves into communities to believe into something, usually a God or set of principles to guide their life. We all have religious principles, and we usually follow them.

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Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	yes, you are correct Norton, if there is a human face to God, it's sure is Chomsky

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