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Old 03-07-2008, 01:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Indigenous men make collective apology over abuse

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Aboriginal men from across Australia have made a collective apology to women for past violence and abuse.
Male leaders from Central Australia were joined by others from the Top End, Cape York, New South Wales and Western Australia.
They have spent the last three days at a camp site near Alice Springs discussing ways to be better male role models.
The conference was called in response to the federal intervention, which the men say has painted them as rapists, child abusers and wife beaters.
But while their main catch-cry was "All men are not bastards", the men also say they need to take responsibility for the violence towards women and children.
The men gave politicians and those in charge of the intervention a list of recommendations to improve male health and welfare in communities.

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So that's OK then.
Say sorry, everything's OK, you're forgiven, carry on as before. BOLLOX
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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^agreed, biggest bunch of two faced bastards I've ever had to deal with.
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I don't think saying sorry is going to change one goddamn thing. As long as aboriginals have access to alcohol the cycle of child abuse and abuse of women will continue. I worked on aboriginal missions nearly fifty years ago and the living conditions and the health of aboriginal is as bad, if not worse now, than it was then. That's despite the billions of dollars that have been thrown at the problems. Until aborigines start to accept some responsibility for their problems, instead of blaming everything on "whitey", nothing will ever change. They have become too dependant on what they call "sit down money" (the dole).
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I remember as a young lad sitting on the outhouse roof with my brother every Saturday afternoon to watch the Abo's fight in the park behind our house. Thing is it was the women who mostly beat up the men. They would wait for them to get back from the dole office all cashed up, smack them over the head with a bottle and take all the money. Then the men got wise and used to stash part of it in the laneway that ran beside our place. That is until my brother and I discovered it.

So maybe the women should apolagise to the poor old men?

Just another side to the story.
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So what is the solution then??
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They have spent the last three days at a camp site near Alice Springs discussing ways to be better male role models.
Three days of Dreamtime should get it all sorted.

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I wonder if it was a dry three days or did they need a few flagons to get the conversation rolling?
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So what is the solution then??
The "final solution"?
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Allow them to open casinos. Worked for the indigenous Americans.

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Allow them to open casinos. Worked for the indigenous Americans.

Who would operate the casinos? Certainly wouldn't be aboriginals, they couldn't organise a chook raffle. Someone else would have to all the hard work so they could sit back and just spend the profits.
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^That's not too far off from the reality in the US. Most management types are not Native American. Most tribes have it set up that all the profits from the casino are evenly distributed amongst all the members. It's a much more lucrative welfare racket than the Feds were giving them.
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Unfortunately the majority of the aboriginals would just buy more alcohol.
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More government programs it sounds like.
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And what does this thread have to do with religion?
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Possibly more to do with philosophy . . .

Never had dealings with aborigines, not many of them living in the eastern suburbs - - - but it cannot be denied that 'whitey' had a major negative impact on the society
as such . . . the question is how far does this go, how many years will it take for the communities to take responsibility for their own actions.

If we look at Africa and the Middle East . . . yes, colonial powers were to blame for many of the problems with their apparent willy-nilly attempts at drawing 'national' borders . . . The problems still persist to this day.

How long will it take to accept the status quo and work towards accepting it and working on building something better instead of simply breaking it down and decrying others and the past.

(Did any of that make sense?)
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