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View Poll Results: Is God real ?? Or is religion a scam ??
Yes, God is real. 10 22.22%
No, it's a big scam. 26 57.78%
Not sure, I'll know when I die. 9 20.00%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 27-05-2008, 03:04 PM   #61 (permalink)
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^ by that logic, does this mean that truth is to believe ? what if I believe that the sky is green, is that any true ?
You are mixing up true -false with truth - lie.
If you really believe the sky is green , and you tell me so, then you're not lying.
It's an opinion, it is your truth.
Doesn't necessarily have to match my opinion.

Check the word "perception" if you wanna know more.
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:05 PM   #62 (permalink)
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And belief in god becomes even more believable when millions agree with your belief.
So when everyone thought the world was flat, it was?
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:18 PM   #63 (permalink)
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So when everyone thought the world was flat, it was?
No but it certainly was more believable. Kinda like global warming!
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:35 PM   #64 (permalink)
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And belief in god becomes even more believable when millions agree with your belief.
So when everyone thought the world was flat, it was?
Of course it was. All the explorers who believed it was flat eventually fell over the edge, leaving only the roundies. The world, like the Universe, is created by a consensus of the daft, that's why it's such a bloody mess
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:41 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Not sure. Been working on it for the last 15 years. Will definitely share with you once I come to know.
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:44 PM   #66 (permalink)
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And belief in god becomes even more believable when millions agree with your belief.
And incredible dangerous as well...
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:45 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Not sure. Been working on it for the last 15 years.
Posting on forums is not work Macha....
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:48 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Old 27-05-2008, 03:51 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I have no problem with people saying that they don't believe in God. People that say that God doesn't exist, there is no proof etc etc. Well that is your opinion and there is plenty of proof. As I do believe in God that must mean all of you who say he does not exist think that I am a liar.
People are individuals and they believe in different things God is one of them, and no I would not call you a liar, you have the right to your own opinion. But at the same time I will ask if you also believe that God created the world we live in, cause that's a bit harder to swallow.
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That was my second post for the day.
On TD mate.. What about all the others...
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On TD mate.. What about all the others...
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a consensus of the daft
That's got a nice ring to it. I think my faith in democracy came to an end the day I watched Family Fortunes and the question was "We asked 100 people what part of the chicken you can't eat" and the top answer was "wings".
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But at the same time I will ask if you also believe that God created the world we live in, cause that's a bit harder to swallow.
That is a central part of the Christian understanding of 'god'. He is the creator.
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That is a central part of the Christian understanding of 'god'. He is the creator.
And according to that the earth is 6.000 years old, if to believe the bible...
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Leave him out of it...Later they will burn down embassies and stuff if this leaks out to the media..
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Old 27-05-2008, 04:45 PM   #78 (permalink)
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But at the same time I will ask if you also believe that God created the world we live in, cause that's a bit harder to swallow.
That is a central part of the Christian understanding of 'god'. He is the creator.

Yes, that he's a "seperate entity" existing above and beyond us, his creations, which is where the whole idea goes down the tubes.
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Christianity is not the only religion
It's all the same thing - just a slightly different flavour, depending on who you talk to.
I disagree, the 'flavours' differ strongly, from Paganism to Christianity, Islam to Hinduism.
What they have all in common is the belief in intelligent 'godly'