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View Poll Results: Is God real ?? Or is religion a scam ??
Yes, God is real. 10 22.22%
No, it's a big scam. 26 57.78%
Not sure, I'll know when I die. 9 20.00%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 26-05-2008, 02:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Religions do exist and yes most are scam, the US is a leader in that particular industry
Here, here....
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What do you think ???

For me there is no doubt, it's all a scam to unite people at that time, sort of a union but they just coulden't get along, therefor is the result the many religions that exist today, and they still cant get along....
Real or not people needed it. In the past that is. You have to have something / someone to blame things on. So, spotting a gap in the market the power brokers step in, organise things a bit and Bigo you've got organised religion. It's a bit like Tescoes or any other multinational, just a lot more hypocritical.

As life and society become more and more complicated there's an inevtable rush for the safety and security of some "superior" being that will help to make sense of it all. The powers know this and evangelism, closely followed by fundamentalism spread like cancers.

Manipulation of the masses. Keep 'em frightened and confused and you'll keep control.
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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hmmm, a blatant attempt at creating a century thread, should be deleted IMO
Whoever taught this monkey to write, should be severely punished...
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:49 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Manipulation of the masses. Keep 'em frightened and confused and you'll keep control.
It worked in the older days, and still some countries are able to keep control that way.
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Religions do exist and yes most are scam, the US is a leader in that particular industry
Take this thread for example. Four Americans posted, four don't believe in god.

Damn, how did you Frenchies get so smart?
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Four Americans posted, four don't believe in god.
Cept for the beer and dancing girl gods, I agree.
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:54 PM   #27 (permalink)
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^^ gee, what a sample, I bet you were at the top in statistics class
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Old 26-05-2008, 02:54 PM   #28 (permalink)
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^^^ Easy now cow-boy, US got a huge amount of self-invented preachers, who's only mission is to rip people off as mush as they can....
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Old 26-05-2008, 06:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 26-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #30 (permalink)
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gee, what a sample, I bet you were at the top in statistics class
his effort here indicates he probably didn't do too well with reading comprehension either.
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Old 26-05-2008, 07:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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It's all true, i saw god once with the loch ness monster!
Heh...I saw Jesus and the whole Holy Host one time too.
After a few hours on some kick-ass Laguna Beach Sunshine!
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Old 26-05-2008, 08:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You have to have something / someone to blame things on. So, spotting a gap in the market the power brokers step in, organise things a bit and Bigo you've got organised religion. It's a bit like Tescoes or any other multinational, just a lot more hypocritical.
When and where has this happened?
What does Tescoes have to do with blaming, power-broking or religion?

What does any of this have to do with the question whether there is a god or not?
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I'll go with this one written by Einstein which stroller can translate...




I'll translate only a small part:

“the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”
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I thought Einstein was a believer in God?
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
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Spinoza asserted that for a concept of god to make any sense at all, it must simply be nature. That is, god cannot be something outside nature that controls it, but must necessarily be part of it. According to Spinoza, God IS nature.
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^ So nature is the creator of life....makes sense through.. But how did humans manage to mess it all up that bad ??? Must be in there power hungry and destructive way of life.....Indeed sad...
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Old 26-05-2008, 10:51 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I would not worry that much about that.
At the end nature will prevail.
Dinosaurs spent hundred of millions of years on earth and they disappeared.
We'll disappear far faster than that...
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Old 26-05-2008, 10:57 PM   #40 (permalink)
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i stopped believing in god after my granny used to thank the lord for the food we ate
i questioned her once and asked why she thanked the lord and shouldn't she be thanking the local supermarket for her food ,we never talked about it again and i was in the dog house bless her soul
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