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Old 04-04-2008, 02:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^ I'm not asking Macha to solve the problem, but the muslims should clean out the trash in there back yard and move on with the peace-full way of life.
Not asking Macha but the Muslims? Whatever that means, Dalts. I, Macha, am a Muslim and like NR correctly pointed out I have a family to spend time with, friends to have a laugh with, dogs to love, businesses to run. You are not expecting me (and other Mulims like myself) to leave our dialy lives and plans, pick swords/guns up and go after extremists?
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Anyone who doesn't care to go through the historical context is wrong. Simple.
Well, good luck getting that message out.


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For the fuck wits, Yes.
There seem to be quite a lot of them around, so many that it becomes a problem.


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Okay but when they retaliate then you can't run around dancing that Islam this Islam that and dropping 20000lbs bombs on the entire neighborhood doesn't help either
It will get worse before it gets better.


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So how do you suppose it should be done.
The 20000lbs bomb sounded like a good start...
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If only they were like us, everything would be OK, right? After all, who has ever heard of a western country starting a war? Or Christian clergy abusing their powers? Or a western man beating his wife?
I never said the west is perfect, and I'm against all kinds of religion, not just Islam, religion is causing more problems that peace.

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You are beginning to sound like a fundamentalist, Dalton. I bet you have more in common with those people than you think.....
I'm indeed, in my own little world...
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You are not expecting me (and other Mulims like myself) to leave our dialy lives and plans, pick swords/guns up and go after extremists?
I think there is something like military and police to that kind of jobs.....


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dogs to love,
Isent there a thing about not being allowed to touch a wet dog or something like that ???
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:06 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well, good luck getting that message out.
Thanks. I do my part.

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There seem to be quite a lot of them around, so many that it becomes a problem.
Actually you pay too much attention to them.

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It will get worse before it gets better.
I hope for the best.

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The 20000lbs bomb sounded like a good start...
The more innocents killed the more recruitment stuff for the fuck wits.

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I never said the west is perfect, and I'm against all kinds of religion, not just Islam, religion is causing more problems that peace.
I disagree. If people fail to follow their religion there is nothing wrong with the religion.

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I think there is something like military and police to that kind of jobs.....
Yes and don't you see the armies of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq doing their part?

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Isent there a thing about not being allowed to touch a wet dog or something like that ???
Only when you are going for prayers. It is required that a person should look presentable when praying to the almighty. I have three dogs and people, Muslim and non Muslim, who say such things are idiots of the highest degree.

Find one verse in the Quran where God has ordered Muslims not to touch a wet dog? Come on Dalts you sound like an educated man , bred and fed in a multi-cultural society. These things sound good with the fuck wits.
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:29 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Actually you pay too much attention to them.
It's hard not to, they are on the news 24/7


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The more innocents killed the more recruitment stuff for the fuck wits.
What else to do ?? Bore them to death with peace talk ??


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I disagree. If people fail to follow their religion there is nothing wrong with the religion.
Some people want to create problems using there religion as the cause.

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Yes and don't you see the armies of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq doing their part?
I do, but still fuck wits seem to get stronger.

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Find one verse in the Quran where God has ordered Muslims not to touch a wet dog? Come on Dalts you sound like an educated man , bred and fed in a multi-cultural society. These things sound good with the fuck wits.
I get your point, but you gotta give me that there is quite a few strange verses, there can be understood in different ways..
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Some people want to create problems using there religion as the cause.
Still the religion is not the problem, you think there would have been no problems if there were no religion?

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I get your point, but you gotta give me that there is quite a few strange verses, there can be understood in different ways..
Yes there are verses that can be understood differently but for the very reason the book (Quran) orders every Muslim man and women to educate themselves and has made it compulsory.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
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What else to do ?? Bore them to death with peace talk ??
So, there are only two options, bore 'them' to death with peacetalks or dropping bombs to kill whoever is in the vicinity?

Aren't you a bit oversimplistic in your approach?
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Aren't you a bit oversimplistic in your approach?
Sometimes that is what it takes to get things done, negotiations and talks drag time out, and more people suffer and get hurt in the mean-time...This ain't your left-wing philosophy, I'm fully aware of that but then again how much has that helped in the past ?? Some people regardless who they call god, just dont want to have peace.
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you think there would have been no problems if there were no religion?
I'm not naive Macha, of-cause there would be problems, humans are destructive by nature, it's in our blood and we cant change it, we are our worst enemy..
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