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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post

    Herman is displaying his massive ignorance again (and his plagiaristic tendencies). What he's failing to understand this time is Gematria. Gematria is part of the Jewish kabbalistic tradition and is normally only applied to Jewish scripture. It can, however, be used with any text where the there is a correspondence between numbers and letters in the written language. Some Arabic scholars (not many, this is a very minor part of Islamic scholarship) have used the Abjadi numerical system to apply this analytical technique to the Koran.
    Sorry DrB0b if I was a bit too harsh.

    What I was trying to say is that Arabic scholars (incl. Macha) have never had any solid proof of the Koran. Playing with numbers (what Islam scholars still try to do today) to find mystical and esoteric symbols in the Koran is not even worthy of any David Copperfield show.
    The Hebrew show of gematria is a bit more exciting...but fails to convince me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post

    Herman is displaying his massive ignorance again (and his plagiaristic tendencies). What he's failing to understand this time is Gematria. Gematria is part of the Jewish kabbalistic tradition and is normally only applied to Jewish scripture. It can, however, be used with any text where the there is a correspondence between numbers and letters in the written language. Some Arabic scholars (not many, this is a very minor part of Islamic scholarship) have used the Abjadi numerical system to apply this analytical technique to the Koran.
    Sorry DrB0b if I was a bit too harsh.

    What I was trying to say is that Arabic scholars (incl. Macha) have never had any solid proof of the Koran. Playing with numbers (what Islam scholars still try to do today) to find mystical and esoteric symbols in the Koran is not even worthy of any David Copperfield show.
    The Hebrew show of gematria is a bit more exciting...but fails to convince me too.
    Macha what?? You moron. I am not an Arab, twit.

    By the way, are you a Jew cos if you are that explains it all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^^ No link or reference provided HTG, as required in Issues.
    Could you sort one out please?

    Numerology ain't my thing, but what is the significance of all this 9/19/29 stuff?
    I will ask you again! Which muslim country is not fuc*ed up?

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    What about all the comments which exposed you as a vile and dishonest Mussie-hating ignoramus of the first order?

    Are you Jewish?

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    I have not made any comparison, just pointed out an earlier statement to be false. Learn to read and comprehend.

    Is there no English-Yiddish software to help you make sense of what you read?

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    Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

    Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

    Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

    Which Sura you want to start with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

    Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

    This is what I said and nothing less (the red part). Don't start to crawl out of it (again) before we have begun. To discuss the disorganization of the Koran will go too far here. So let's keep it basic, simple. Or is the Sure 1 not part of the Koran ? C'mon Macha give it a try, again:

    Who wrote this?
    Who was it meant for?
    What worlds are meant!
    Is there more then one (world) ?
    Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
    What does merciful and gracious mean?

    You are allowed to take one question at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

    Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

    This is what I said and nothing less (the red part). Don't start to crawl out of it (again) before we have begun. To discuss the disorganization of the Koran will go too far here. So let's keep it basic, simple. Or is the Sure 1 not part of the Koran ? C'mon Macha give it a try, again:

    Who wrote this?
    Who was it meant for?
    What worlds are meant!
    Is there more then one (world) ?
    Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
    What does merciful and gracious mean?

    You are allowed to take one question at a time.
    Every verse is a part of Quran. I don't see your objection though!

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    Hmm, I see my comment about the lack of decent moderation in this part of the forum has been deleted while herman's foul-mouthed rants are allowed to stand.

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    Herman is exempt from citing sources for his quotations as well, it seems.
    His frequent refusals go unchallenged.

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    If you're anti-muslim whatever you say stands, no standards are required, have you seen the comments made by the retards who crawled out from under their rocks in response to to the muhammed troll?

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    Yes, but that is in MKP, got nothing to do with Issues.
    There are some very nasty insults towards a pastor asking for building advice in the Lounge as well.

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    Point was that people who affect a reasonable attitude in the more serious sections showed their true attitudes when they realised they were responding to a troll in MKP.

    Didn't the pastor's building thread get deleted because a mod decided he didn't want christians on the board? I remember seeing a few posts to that effect.
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    Not sure I'd call anyone's comment in MKP their "true" attitude.

    No, the mod (hillbilly) moved it to the less moderated Lounge, so he needn't comply to the standards of the 'serious' Building Forum and could insult the guy.
    - what a pansy.
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    Macha is neither an Arab nor a Koran scholar.

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    Bring any. YOu are the one claiming that Quran is full of bullshit n all that, Rabbi Herman.

    Now go ahead and bring them on (remember one by one). Also do bother to tell us what is your objection on the verse, oh holy one.

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    It seems like you are finding it hard to get your hands on some anti-Islamic material on Faith Freedom International , oh holy one.

    Ok I will answer all your questions but please do tell me what is this Rabbi on about by saying:

    "A MILLION ARABS ARE NOT WORTH ONE JEWISH FINGERNAIL." Rabbi Ya' acov

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    It seems like you are finding it hard to get your hands on some anti-Islamic material on Faith Freedom International , oh holy one.

    Ok I will answer all your questions but please do tell me what is this Rabbi on about by saying:

    "A MILLION ARABS ARE NOT WORTH ONE JEWISH FINGERNAIL." Rabbi Ya' acov

    Good way to start our discussion! Because I think we both agree on this one.
    This Rabbi is an idiot.


    But what would happen if we take all the jews in the world that have said or thought, "Death to all muslims". And let them who have said this be struck by lightning.

    And what would happen if we take all the muslims in the world that have said, "Death to all jews". And let them who have said this be struck by lightning.

    I think you would loose a lot of brothers bro.

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    Might as well start with the beginning:

    1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
    2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
    3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
    4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
    5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
    6. Show us the straight way,
    7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.







    Who wrote this? Who was it meant for? What worlds are meant! Is there more then one ?Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
    What does merciful and gracious mean?



    Let's not forget this is the opening of or the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Might as well start with the beginning:

    1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
    2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
    3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
    4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
    5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
    6. Show us the straight way,
    7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.







    Who wrote this? Who was it meant for? What worlds are meant! Is there more then one ?Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
    What does merciful and gracious mean?



    Let's not forget this is the opening of or the start.
    What? Where is the verse?

    As I said earlier one question at a time, oh holy one.

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    Fuck the lightening. How dare the lightening strike at the Jewish side. I mean you guys are the promised ones, oh holy one.

    By the way you said "This Rabbi is an idiot." Same is true about the fuckwit Mullahs! No?

    On a serious note, if you take the ratio of Muslims:Jews, believe me Jews will be the winner.

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    So where's the verse? The questions you asked make no sense and they ain't verses either.

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    I was muslim. Thought it was the word of god, It is not it is is an evil cult!
    I am under threat of death because I chose to leave Islam!
    There is no such thing as a moderate muslim.
    You stupid people are killing your own kind.

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    I was muslim. Thought it was the word of god, It is not it is is an evil cult!
    An evil cult? Care to elucidate?

    A red on its way, for inciting hatered and giving wrong info, after I spread some love.

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