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Old 05-04-2008, 08:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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There has just been too many ghost sightings throughout history to completely discount the idea.
Most people believe in a god too, but it's still a crock of shit.
But how many people claim to have seen God?

yes yes I know there's a few, but not nearly on the scale of ghost sightings.

Why are you so convinced that there is no such thing as ghosts Marmite? What's the one main reason that makes you say 'its a crock of shit'?
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:09 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Ghosts are more popular and don't have religion. God doesn't believe in them.

Incidentally, very few people have been killed in the name of ghosts.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:45 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Animals can see and hear stuff we can't, we put it down to God and ghosts and whatever because we are an irretrievably stupid and arrogant race.

What animals know and what is beyond space is beyond our comprehension but we can't accept that, being the best species and all - so we make it up in what ever context suits us.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:11 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Why are you so convinced that there is no such thing as ghosts Marmite?
Because there's no proof.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:19 PM   #65 (permalink)
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How would you know ghosts don't have religion?I'd think quite a few of them do. God would "know", not believe, and he (assuming you mean the Christian god) has not commented on the existence of ghosts. But he demands people do not worship anything besides him.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:24 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Because there's no proof.
That's why it is called a "belief". Plenty of witness acounts though, and case studies where no plausible explanations for phenomena are found.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:26 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Because there's no proof.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:37 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Most of us are guests in a foreign country. We have no business telling the natives what they should and shouldn't believe in. If they want to believe in things that go bump in the night then let them. I'm not racist, but i hate immigrants to the UK and other countries demanding (and often getting) things their way. I'll never be like that.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:40 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Plenty of witness acounts though


When your 'witnesses' are morons like these it's a safe bet that they are full of shit.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:43 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Why are you so convinced that there is no such thing as ghosts Marmite?
Because there's no proof.
So unless there is scientific proof you believe that it cannot possibly exist?

Perhaps it's something we are incapable of proving yet?
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:52 PM   #71 (permalink)
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When your 'witnesses' are morons like these it's a safe bet that they are full of shit.
Yawn...
Showing a few unreliable witnesses does not disprove or discredit anything.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:48 PM   #72 (permalink)
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So unless there is scientific proof you believe that it cannot possibly exist?
Not at all. If there's not any scientific proof, I am unwilling to believe it exists.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:57 PM   #73 (permalink)
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The missus got up the other morning and said a Ghost had been touching her foot. I hadn't the heart to tell her it was the Dog's tail......she wagged it when I came into the room!
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:03 AM   #74 (permalink)
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How would you know ghosts don't have religion?I'd think quite a few of them do. God would "know", not believe, and he (assuming you mean the Christian god) has not commented on the existence of ghosts. But he demands people do not worship anything besides him.
The Holy Ghost? hehe
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It's a waste of time trying to convince folks there are no ghosts...
And a waste of time trying to convince folks that there are. You either got the sight or you don't. And, once physicists come up with the calcs that prove that there are, well, it won't be so cool to talk about ghosts anymore. Another dimension, folks, another dimension.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:26 AM   #76 (permalink)
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So unless there is scientific proof you believe that it cannot possibly exist?
Not at all. If there's not any scientific proof, I am unwilling to believe it exists.

Now are you telling me Casper does not exist (bollox)
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:22 AM   #77 (permalink)
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and he (assuming you mean the Christian god) has not commented on the existence of ghosts. But he demands people do not worship anything besides him.
wrong mate, plenty of mentions of spirits, demons, devils work, false gods, angels and saints.

Wasnt till the 15th century (or thereabouts, I havent googled the exact dates yet) when the Christian church made attempts to remove all references to magic and ghosts to separate itself from Paganism in the minds of the people.
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Now are you telling me Casper does not exist (bollox)
I forgot about him. OK, I'm converted.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:59 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Next time that you want to tell a Thai person that ghosts don't exist,go to a Church/Mosque/Temple and tell one of the worshipers that their religion is complete bollox.When you succeed converting these people to atheism,you are now ready to tell Thais that ghosts don't exist.
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It's not just Thai people that believe in ghosts. Yes, they believe in them to an extreme I wouldn't go to (ie we were offered some land in a temple next to the crematorium & empty tombs because the Thais wouldn't use it for anything. I would take it, I didn't get a bad feeling there, at all) However, I've seen & experienced ghosts. So has Jet. We're not morons or in an advanced stage of mental illness (thanks Shitman!). Perhaps we're just more perceptive?

As for proof: for hundreds of years it was supposed by some 'cranks' that the Earth was round. Of course, the flat-earthers knew different. They knew (without proof on either side) that if you sailed a boat to the edge of the world it would drop off.