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    ^good to "see" you again, callippo. Are you back in PI or still trotting around?

    Re: du30 & Boracay, yeah, Boracay needs to be cleaned up. Last year, it was flooded before Xmas due to rains from typhoon Urduja (or was it Vinta) - saw pics in the news. It's a small island and it's been overdeveloped. There was a study by De La Salle Uni some years ago that they found fecal coliforms in Bora waters. Seems the problem hasn't been addressed properly. When I visited there in 2015, there were still lots of construction for new hotels & guesthouses.

    Edit: Bora still draws in tourists. Last Xmas season, I rode the 2go ferry (Batangas-Caticlan) to go to the province. Lots of ppl on the ferry were off to Boracay for some holidays.
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    Thanks Katie. Having never visited the Philippines I had Boracai on my list. A recommendation of a nice place with decent beach and water would be good.

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    ^Lots of beaches in PI, depends on where you want to go. If you can spare the 2nd flight from Manila or Clark, then you can try Palawan (Graceless Fawn has a thread). You could also try Dumaguete City, lots of resorts & accdg to a colleague, lots of (white) foreigners lately. Bohol & Panglaw island are possibilities, or you could try Cebu City & from there, take a day trip to Oslob to see the whales.

    If you want an island but not fly from Luzon, you could try Puerto Galera. I have a thread abt it but the pics are gone - I might reload pics in future, when I've more time. The Batangas coast is also good. If you want north, you can try the beaches (& b*tches) in Subic. Or still further north, Pagudpod beach - but no b*tches there. Cheers.

    Btw, when I went to Bora, it was Sept, so off season. The waters were okay, no stink nor algae, but it sometimes rained in the afternoon. Our room was ~1k pesos (~20 usd). Double that price during high season (March-June & Xmas).

    For all its faults, re: all the beaches I've been to, Boracay sand is still the finest. (Crocman said the same). Sand in Calaguas island (eastern part of PI) is a close second.

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    As you know Katie the Dragonlady and I have been to Boracay many times over the years, unfortunately the last couple of times were not as enjoyable. The water quality has been steadily getting worse. I know a lot has been spent on upgrading the sewerage system but when most hotels aren't connected it makes it a waste of time. Even Puka Beach, which I believe is comparable to any in the world, has now been ruined. It has recently been opened up for vendors which means the beach is now lined with souvenir shops and a brand new resort.

    I dont know know what the answer is but I do know Boracays success is killing it.
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    @croc - I think you mentioned before that you visited Bora during Holy Week? Then that would be super peak season during summer, and yeah, the sewers would be clogged too. I went there during off season, so not much sewer problem. But yes, there IS a big sewer problem in Boracay, as evidenced by the flooding pre-xmas last year. According to experts, that amount of rainfall in Bora should've been manageable, but it wasn't. So many establishments now, big & small. Most of the big businesses there aren't owned by locals from Boracay, but from neighboring provinces, because Bora is where the money is. The spa where I had a massage is owned by a woman from Bulacan. Most of the massage ladies were from Luzon too. Even the resort my group stayed at is owned by a Japanese consortium.

    Sigh...I agree with most of what you've said. Success is killing the island.

    Actually, I have no great desire to return to Boracay. I prefer Puerto Galera - it's quieter, cheaper and not as commercial. Nearer too, so that's another plus.

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    I've never been to Boracay and probably never will.

    There are so many less crowded and commercialised beaches around the Philippines.

    I guess its just like Australia, all the tourists go to Bondi to swim with the turds but never get to see far more beautiful beaches.

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    ^I went in 1991. It was unspoiled, only had power a few hours in the evening, and was great. Now, after living here for over two decades, I've never had the urge to return. At this point, it's like swimming in Pattaya.

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    For our flipper folk. What is the talk on the street regarding Dutrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    For our flipper folk. What is the talk on the street regarding Dutrete?
    Seems to be doing fine. Hasn't done/said anything really outrageous in a while. Still popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Seems to be doing fine. Hasn't done/said anything really outrageous in a while. Still popular.
    Figured as much. Rather hear from folks like you who live there than the "media" who are prone to sensationalism.

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    Spoke a bit too soon, before yesterday's "shoot them in the vagina" comment.

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    Seems like he could bugger the Pope on the front steps of the San Agustin Church and the majority of the Flips I speak to would still support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe View Post
    Seems like he could bugger the Pope on the front steps of the San Agustin Church and the majority of the Flips I speak to would still support him.

    Quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^I went in 1991. It was unspoiled, only had power a few hours in the evening, and was great. Now, after living here for over two decades, I've never had the urge to return. At this point, it's like swimming in Pattaya.
    Its not quiet as bad as Patters Davis, but it will get there in a few years if the gov't doesn't intervene.

    I'm still hoping for the best. All it needs is a new leadership/politician with a conscience, half a brain, who cannot be bribed and who is not afraid to implement the rules and regulations.

    Believe it or not, as dirty as PI politics is, there are still a few good eggs left out there.......
    I am so unlucky that if I fall into a barrel full of D*ick**s, I'd come out sucking my own thumb!

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    ^yes, there are a few good eggs, GF. The problem is, the good eggs tend to die young, often in "mysterious" circumstances.

    Take the case of former Sec. Robredo, the current VP Leno Robredo's late husband. He went on a trip to the province. On the way back to Manila, his helicopter crashed. Pilot & passengers dead. There was a rumor that he was about to make an expose upon his return. Result, dead cabinet secretary, no expose.... Sigh...

    Re: Du30, most of my colleagues don't like him & didn't vote for him. But then, they're educated and not part of the masses.

    To be fair, there have been some good changes brought about by the Du30 admin. I've some friends who visited Davao city recently. They said it was very clean & orderly. But then, it's also because ppl are too scared to do crimes, bcos they might get killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    The problem is, the good eggs tend to die young, often in "mysterious" circumstances
    Not much has changed since I first set foot in your fine country 50+ years ago.

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    Philippine Leader Challenges International Criminal Court Probe

    Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said Wednesday that the International Criminal Court could not bring charges against him even as it moves forward with a preliminary investigation into thousands of killings tied to his drug war.


    Speaking to local officials in the northern city of Tarlac, Duterte dismissed the ICC threat as hollow and said it was only meant to distract him from governance.


    “You don’t have jurisdiction over me,” Duterte said, referring to The Hague-based ICC.


    Duterte’s police force counts more than 4,000 deaths in the drug war, lower than the estimated figure of 12,000 deaths that rights groups have claimed. The official figure excludes deaths blamed on pro-government vigilantes.


    On Tuesday, Duterte said he was not responding to a statement by the “black lady” because he did not believe in the probe.


    While he did not name anyone, Duterte apparently was referring to ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda. The attorney last month announced the preliminary investigation into accusations that Duterte and other officials may have committed crimes against humanity in the course of his deadly drug crackdown.


    “You cannot acquire jurisdiction over me, not in a million years,” Duterte said.


    Last month, Duterte’s spokesman said the president welcomed the investigation as a chance to prove his government had nothing to hide.



    Duterte: dealers were forewarned


    The president on Tuesday reiterated that drug dealers and addicts were forewarned before he was elected.


    “When I became the president, I said don’t destroy my country. Do not make this into a Colombia or Mexico,” Duterte said. “Do not do that or I will kill you.”


    He said he had a duty and a “solemn promise” to the Filipino people, about 16 million of whom voted him into office, to eradicate the drug problem.


    “So the war against drugs will continue with or without the ICC, with or without the human rights, with or without the politicians,” Duterte said. “It will last until the last day of my term as president.”


    Facing mounting international and local criticism after the deaths last year of three teenagers, Duterte removed the police from the lead role in the drug war. The official police versions said that the teenagers were drug couriers who were killed because they fought it out with arresting officers.


    But in one of the cases, a closed-circuit television camera showed the police carting away the suspect before he was killed. The incident triggered widespread protests, including from the politically influential Catholic Church, and galvanized opposition to Duterte’s drug war.


    The ICC’s investigation is based on a 77-page complaint filed by a former police officer and a self-proclaimed assassin who claimed he was employed by Duterte’s “death squad” during his reign as mayor of Davao city before being elected president.


    That complaint, filed in April 2017, includes “crimes against humanity through mass murder” allegedly committed by Duterte and his death squad. Duterte has denied the allegations and the existence of the group.


    Duterte spokesman Harry Roque has sought to play down the inquiry, saying the ICC prosecutor was exercising her mandate to check if there was reasonable basis to proceed forward, but called the action a “waste of the court’s time and resources.”

    https://www.benarnews.org/english/ne...018120026.html

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    U.N.'s Zeid says Philippines' Duterte needs psychiatric evaluation


    "ENEVA (Reuters) - Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte’s slurs against U.N. human rights activists suggest he needs to see a psychiatrist, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein told a news conference on Friday.

    “These attacks cannot go unanswered, the U.N. Human Rights Council must take a position,” Zeid said, after Duterte’s government sought to get a U.N. investigator, a former Philippine lawmaker and four former Catholic priests declared as “terrorists”.
    “He needs to submit himself to some sort of psychiatric examination. This kind of comment is unacceptable, unacceptable,” Zeid said. "

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-regbels-un/u-n-s-zeid-says-philippines-duterte-needs-psychiatric-evaluation-idUSKCN1GL0YU
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    The Chinese appear to have an online app that determines mental health, possibly the same one MK has posted here. Whatever, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, at a public press conference, had this to say:




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    Q: According to the Guardian, the Philippine Department of Justice last month listed more than 600 people it wanted to be categorized as rebels for "using acts of terror" to undermine the government. Among them was the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights Victoria Tauli-Corpuz. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein, said in response that President Duterte needs to submit himself to some sort of psychiatric examination. What is your comment?

    A: Anyone without bias can see that President Duterte has made positive efforts since assuming office to combat drug-related crimes as well as terrorism, develop the national economy, and improve people's livelihood, which have effectively protected and promoted the Philippine people's fundamental rights to security and development. The achievements made by the Philippine government led by President Duterte on these fronts have won great approval and extensive support among the Philippine people.

    Relevant sides of the international community, including the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, shall respect the sovereignty of the Philippines and the will of its people, view the outcomes of the Philippines' fight against drug and terrorism in a comprehensive, unbiased and objective way, and support its efforts to move forward its human rights cause in light of its national conditions. As an agency of the UN, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights is expected to fulfill its duties within the framework set out by the purposes and principles of the UN Charter.

    Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Kang's Regular Press Conference on March 12, 2018

    It seems President Duterte has an Asian friend.
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    Activists burn a giant effigy of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte as they march towards the presidential Malacanang palace during a May Day rally in Manila on May 1, 2018


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    Duterte: China has promised to protect PH.

    Link here, can't post the whole thing, am on phone.

    Duterte: China has promised to protect PH | Inquirer Global Nation

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    Seems the Du30 & China friendship is getting stronger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Seems the Du30 & China friendship is getting stronger...
    How is the Chinese/Russian frenship going down with the general public? Are the on board or muttering discontent?

    Hows public opinion on his war on drugs holding up. Fully supportive or anxious citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    Activists burn a giant effigy
    What are the % support in the polls, how large is the support for the activists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    How is the Chinese/Russian frenship going down with the general public? Are the on board or muttering discontent?
    Perhaps not a good sampling but reading the comments at katie's link, not well recieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Seems to be doing fine. Hasn't done/said anything really outrageous in a while. Still popular.
    He will try to win as many seats in the senate in the next national election for his planned federal government to materialize. Right now, he doesn't control the majority in the senate.

    He's doing a piss poor job handling the fast deteriorating ties between PI and Kuwait, and hasn't come-up with an alternative job for Flippers who were laid off/sent home from Kuwait.

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    ^Agree re Kuwait. Re 'drug war', it hasn't been in the press as much lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Perhaps not a good sampling but reading the comments at katie's link, not well recieved.
    The quoted source, the US ambassador states, "Kim vowed the United States would do “whatever we can” to protect the freedoms of navigation,". Not exactly positive just a hint for a country that has a "Defence Agreement" in place now with a foreign country.

    The agreement states that they two will act if either is attacked, by bringing the problem to their own government and hence politicians will become involved and vote for war/action or not. They also will both bring the problem to the UN and accept any UN directives. More like we will act if ameristan interests are threatened, when it suits their domestic political and their countries global objectives.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual...93Philippines)

    bobo's link only states "activists" and showing a crowd of onlookers or active participants? Which could indicate thousands or dozens. Are they rallying on a specified day to commemorate the annual "may day", which may or may not be considered "pro government" or are they marching for other grievances? There is also a absence of police or soldiers, upholding the law, which may indicate the government considers the march to be non threatening.

    I was thinking katie may have a grass roots opinion she could share.

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