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Old 08-01-2017, 12:51 PM   #476 (permalink)
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Duterte Orders Troops to Blast Militants — and Their Hostages

MANILA, PHILIPPINES —
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, in a bid to stop a wave of kidnappings at sea, said Saturday that he had ordered his troops to bomb extremists who flee with their captives, calling the loss of civilian lives in such an attack "collateral damage."

Duterte has previously said he told his Indonesian and Malaysian counterparts that their forces can blast away as they pursue militants who abduct sailors in waters where the three countries converge, and that they can bring their kidnap victims to the southern Philippines. He said in a speech late Saturday that he had given the same orders to Filipino forces.

He said he instructed the navy and the coast guard that "if there are kidnappers and they're trying to escape, bomb them all."

"They say 'hostages.' Sorry, collateral damage," he said in a speech to business people in Davao, his southern hometown.

Duterte said such an approach would enable the government to get even with the ransom-seeking militants. "You can't gain mileage for your wrongdoing. I will really have you blasted," he said.

His advice to potential victims? "So, really, don't allow yourselves to be kidnapped."

Duterte's remarks reflect the alarm and desperation of the Philippines, along with Malaysia and Indonesia, in trying to halt a series of ransom kidnappings, primarily by Abu Sayyaf militants and their allies, along a busy waterway for regional trade.

On Saturday, ransom-seeking Abu Sayyaf gunmen freed a South Korean captain and his Filipino crewman who were abducted three months ago from their cargo ship.

The gunmen handed skipper Park Chul-hong and Glenn Alindajao over to Moro National Liberation Front rebels, who turned them over to Philippine officials in southern Jolo town in predominantly Muslim Sulu province.

The Moro rebels, who signed a 1996 peace deal with the government, have helped negotiate the release of several hostages of the smaller but more violent Abu Sayyaf, which is blacklisted by the U.S. as a terrorist organization for kidnappings, beheadings and bombings.

Duterte's adviser dealing with insurgents, Jesus Dureza, said he was not aware of any ransom being paid in exchange for the freedom of the sailors. At least 27 hostages, many of them foreign crewmen, remain in the hands of different Abu Sayyaf factions, he said.

There has been persistent speculation, however, that ransom was paid for most of the freed hostages.

Without a known foreign source of funds, Abu Sayyaf has survived mostly on ransom kidnappings, extortion and other acts of banditry.

A confidential Philippine government threat assessment report seen by The Associated Press last year said the militants pocketed at least 353 million pesos ($7.3 million) from ransom kidnappings in the first six months of 2016.

The militants have mostly targeted slow-moving tugboats in the busy sea bordering the southern Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia.

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So, really, don't allow yourselves to be kidnapped
Wise advice.
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calling the loss of civilian lives in such an attack "collateral damage."
Accepted by some for 100's of years,
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Brilliant Mr. Duterte, you alienated the United States because you apparently thought you could deal with China alone. It now appears that didn't work out so well, what a surprise.

Will you be kissing the President's shoes apologizing for all the anti-American macho rhetoric?

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MANILA - The Philippines has filed a diplomatic protest with China, its foreign minister said on Monday, over Beijing's installation last year of anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems on its man-made islands in the disputed South China Sea.

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I'm sure the standard diplomatice response has been sent, it has been duly noted and filed away until any discussion regarding sovereignty begin.

When will they start maybe 2097

"I just want to assure the Filipino people that when we take action at engaging China in this dispute, we do not want to take such aggressive, provocative action that will not solve the problem," he said.

Asian diplomacy as opposed to ameristani bombing back to the stone age. You choose.

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It now appears that didn't work out so well
As another Chinese leader once said, "It is too early to tell".
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Tough guy...

That said, Davao is one of the cleanest cities I've ever been in. The surrounding areas are an NPA stronghold, but the city is safe and near crime free.

He's very attractive to Filipinos who see him as a tough, law and order guy. My wife likes him as well.

Bit of a thug. Plays well as a local Mayor, but I don't think he has the brain power to be an effective President.l
Agreed. I visited Davao about eight years ago and he was very popular even then. Davao is clean and no stray dogs, supposedly the city was treating too many people for rabies and the Mayor said enough already.

But Davis called it correctly two years ago with respect to Mr. Ds intellect
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'Democracy as we know it is dead': Filipino journalists fight fake news

Filipinos spend more time on social media than anyone else in the world

Like much of our connected world, the Philippines has a problem with fake news.
But it faces some unique challenges in trying to fight it.
The bogus stories that pollute the internet in the Philippines are startling in their venom, frequency and sometimes clumsy attempts to look like the real thing.
For example, a number of the stories say Senator Antonio Trillanes, a critic of President Rodrigo Duterte, was arrested for drugs and accepted massive bribes. Trillanes's team maintains they are all made up.
Some of the most shocking fake tales, however, focus on Senator Leila de Lima, one of the fiercest critics of Duterte, whose war on the drug trade has resulted in the deaths of thousands.
The news sites they allegedly come from may look authentic, but they're not. Neither are the claims — for example, that de Lima's son was arrested for drug trafficking, that de Lima pole dances in Germany, that de Lima was ousted, that she attempted suicide.
Surely a little fact checking might make that clear, but in the Philippines, this gets complicated.
The cost of fact-checking

Mobile internet coverage in the Philippines is among the slowest and most expensive in Asia. So it's a big commitment to click on a link or watch a video in the name of fact-checking. It can drain precious data fast.
A global digital survey released in January found that Filipinos spend more time on social media than anyone else in the world. (Jean-François Bisson/CBC)

Through some of the telecom companies, though, Facebook is free.
Filipinos love Facebook. A global digital survey released in January found that Filipinos spend more time on social media than anyone else in the world — and the biggest chunk of it is on Facebook and Facebook Messenger.
Political operatives in the Philippines take full advantage of this.
Staffers for Senator de Lima say they collected fake news stories about her from various Facebook timelines over the past few months.
Facebook users see them fly by, and some, it seems, believe what they read.
The fact that many Filipinos let their data run out and just rely on free Facebook use "helps both the disinformation and misinformation, because if you can't afford the data, what you see on your free Facebook is the [headline]," said journalist Maria Ressa, who runs the news site Rappler.
The headline, she points out, is where the most interesting, provocative information sits.
Forget nuance, forget context.
Maria Ressa, a Filipino journalist, said that what's happening online “is exponential growth of propaganda networks that hijack what used to be called democracy.” (Sylvia Thomson/CBC)

Facebook recently introduced a tool for detecting fake news, but it is currently only deployed in the U.S., Germany, France and Norway.
'Propaganda networks'

Ressa and her team have been investigating the trajectory of fake news stories — as well as bogus social media accounts and online attacks — in the last year or so.
"Democracy as we know it is dead," Ressa said. "What you're seeing is exponential growth of propaganda networks that hijack what used to be called democracy."
The research Ressa and her team produced revealed coordinated social networks deployed to first boost support for Rodrigo Duterte in his 2016 presidential run.
Then, once he'd been elected, they turned their full force on the traditional media.
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has garnered criticism from fellow politicians for his brutal tactics in the country's drug war. (Ezra Acayan/Reuters)

Then they went after his critics, like de Lima.
The effect of these campaigns, Ressa said, was to largely silence opposition.
"You look at anyone who says anything against the killings, against the drug war, especially if they are women, they will get clobbered on social media," she explained.
"They are threatened with death, with rape. You name it, it's happened."
Ressa experienced this first hand. After Rappler published a series called "Weaponizing the internet," the threats came flooding in.
"An average of 90 hate messages an hour," Ressa said. "That's what I dealt with for a month."
But the research and reporting continued. Rappler has even found a way to try to counter a bit of the fake news with reality checks.
It releases some of its stories in chunks on Facebook Messenger, so Filipinos can see them for free.
'Do your research'

Ressa said her team's data reveals that in terms of pro-Duterte propaganda, there are three key accounts that together reach millions of followers.
One of them belongs to blogger Mocha Uson.
She is huge in the Philippines, with nearly five million social media followers. Uson was once a sex blogger, but she's now a singer as well as a member of the country's film and television classification board.

A screenshot of Mocha Uson's recent blog post about Senator de Lima. (Adrienne Arsenault/CBC)

She is also fiercely loyal to President Duterte, often travelling alongside him and always writing in support of him and his policies.
She frequently shares scathing stories about Duterte's critics, including Senator de Lima. As CBC reported last month, the senator, who was once the justice secretary and the chair of the human rights commission, is now a prisoner, accused of taking money from drug lords.
Human Rights Watch calls the charges against de Lima politically motivated, perhaps as revenge for her opposition to Duterte, but the courts haven't fully ruled yet. She could be jailed for life.
Mocha Uson recently posted a story that quoted the speaker of the House of Representatives in the Philippines. In it, the speaker said, "The country's number 1 drug lord is already jailed" — he was referring to de Lima.
To label de Lima the number one drug lord of the Philippines is an inflammatory, unproven claim. When CBC asked Uson why she would post it, knowing so many people follow her blog and believe what she says, she defended her actions by saying that if you read the post's comments, many of her followers agree with the claim.
Later in the interview, Mocha became more forthright, and said, "I am getting the feeling that you see de Lima as innocent, as an innocent person."
"I don't know if she is innocent or not," I said.
"You need to do more research, ma'am, because the Filipinos know who de Lima is. So please, madam, do your research."

It turns out that Uson's manager recorded our interview, and before the night was done, they had cut a chunk of it to music and posted it to her website, including the "do your research" exchange.
The post very quickly got hundreds of thousands of views and thousands of comments — many of them calling CBC "stupid," "lazy," "blind," and "puppets of the oligarchs."
It was all relatively benign. Not everyone gets off so easily in the Philippines.
The anger flows both ways, but the bulk of attacks come from Duterte supporters. To criticize or even appear to question him or his policies can invite trouble.
Meanwhile, the truth remains elusive.

'Democracy as we know it is dead': Filipino journalists fight fake news - World - CBC News
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President Duterte drives a hard bargain:

South Korea gives anti-submarine warship to Philippines, for $100 | ABS-CBN News

"South Korea will transfer an ageing Pohang-class anti-submarine warship to the Philippines this year in return for just $100, the defense department said on Thursday, boosting its capability to patrol vast maritime borders. Outside the United States, its former colonial master and long-time security ally, South Korea has been largest source of Philippine military hardware, from fighters and patrol ships to armoured vehicles and army trucks.

Manila received two FA-50 light fighters from Seoul on Wednesday and two more will be delivered next month to complete the 12 aircraft, 18 billion peso ($359 million) deal.
The Philippines has expressed interest to acquire six more similar planes.

"We are hoping to receive the vessel within the year," defense spokesman Arsenio Andolong said of the warship.

"The transfer will be in the form of a donation. We will pay a token $100, but the corvette will still undergo refurbishment."

He said he has no idea how much the Philippines would need to spend to repair and restore the warship.

Andolong said the Philippines may acquire up to three such warships, which Seoul is replacing with newer and faster vessels.

"This may be an old ship but it will definitely enhance our capability to patrol our waters and perform counter-terrorism measures," he added.

South Korea has donated a lot of military hardware to the Philippines and has expressed gratitude for Manila's role in the 1950-53 Korean War".
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