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    ^There's a 3-day weekend coming up. Nov. 30 (mon) is a holiday, Bonifacio day. Maybe you could explore Batangas w/ Makati girl. I can't give you much info abt resorts there tgough, other than Kabayan. Their rooms seem to be pricey, 4k lowest. The outing in Kabayan was some years ago & can't remember all details. I don't know the names of neighboring resorts but they were just beside each other & shared the coastline. Kabayan is quite famous for company outings. When we were there, there was another, bigger gro from Manila. I think it's a bit difficult to commute by public transport to Laiya (lah-eee-yah) & it would involve several changes of transport. The times I've been to San Juan, batangas, I was in a group & transport was provided. The beach & water in Batangas are ok, but not Boracay quality. Good for a short weekend brk frm the city. Laiya is a barrio in San Juan, Batangas. Pardon my typos, am posting frm phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Don't leave Manila for the provinces during rush hour on a weekend holiday - traffic is horrible!
    I'm correcting myself - should've said "holiday weekend", not weekend holiday.

    Anyway, I got bothered that I didn't know the answer to my own question (how to get to San Juan, Batangas via public transport), so I did some googling.

    Info from:
    Budget Travel Philippines | Backpacking Asia Guide: How to Get to Laiya, San Juan, Batangas: Map Bus Fare, Commute Directions, Beach Resorts

    How to commute to Laiya, San Juan, Batangas:
    From EDSA, Cubao or Araneta Bus Center in Quezon City or Alabang, Muntinlupa, the best is via Alps the Bus as it has a direct daily trip schedule to San Juan, Batangas (first trip at 3am, last trip at 5:30 pm), 12 daily trips, fare PHP 188. In San Juan, just near the town hall, take another jeep to Laiya/Barangay Hugom (first trip 6am, last trip 5pm).

    From EDSA, Cubao, Pasay/Taft/LRT Buendia or MRT Taft/LRT EDSA Rotonda in Pasay, take buses to Lipa, Batangas (RRCG, JAM Liner, LAC Liner, Batangas Star Express, Ceres Tours, KL CNG Bus Transport, DLTB Co.) In Lipa City, take a shuttle van or jeepney to San Juan. In San Juan near municipal hall, take the jeep to Laiya/Hugom.

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    At Laiya, you may need to take a tricycle to take you to the beach resort as jeepneys usually have routes only in the main highways.

    More info here:
    How to get to Laiya Beach in San Juan, Batangas ~ My Travel BLog
    Laiya in San Juan, Batangas | Biyaherong Barat

    This is for callippo & others who may be interested in going to the beaches in San Juan, Batangas, which is ~2.5 hrs from Manila.

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    Another alternative is the town of Nasugbu, also in Batangas but in the opposite direction.

    To go to Nasugbu, Batangas via public transport:
    From EDSA Rotonda (where the MRT-LRT stations converge), go to the Northbound side. Between Chowking & McDonald's, there's an alley which is the bus station for Batman (Batangas-Manila) Starexpress Corp. That area is also behind a Sogo hotel. The first bus leaves at 3am everyday. The ride to Nasugbu takes 3-4h. The last bus from Nasugbu to Manila leaves at 8pm. The bus station in Nasugbu is beside Jollibee Nasugbu. In Nasugbu, you may need to take a jeepney or tricycle to take you to your resort.

    Katie's notes:
    1. EDSA Rotonda is a densely packed area - be careful of your belongings.
    2. The websites I've seen recommend travelling to Batangas early in the morning (to avoid traffic). I think the last Batman bus leaves Manila at 5pm. That's rush hour and horrible Manila traffic.
    3. Nasugbu and San Juan are small towns, so probably not much nightlife, entertainment (live bands) or girly bars. I also don't know if there are many jeepneys until 9 or 10 pm, so if you leave Manila at 5 or 6pm and arrive in Batangas at 10 pm, jeepneys may be scarce. Tricycles are probably the only option. Trike drivers may or may not charge more during night trips. I'm not sure of the jeepney situation in Batangas as I'm not from there. However, in my hometown, by 9pm jeepneys are scarce.

    Some info about Nasugbu resorts here:
    Best Beach Resorts in Nasugbu Batangas - Out of Town Blog

    I looked at some of the places listed in that blog. The one that I like (and can probably afford) is Shorebirds Beach Resort. It's a small, family-owned resort - has no swimming pool but is beachfront property. The standard A/C room is P2,600 for an O/N stay, max 4 ppl. They also have nipa huts (bahay kubo) fan rooms for P1,100 (but foreigners prolly wouldn't want that). There are large & small resort-hotels listed in the blog - depends on your needs, wants & budget. The large hotels probably have bars or live bands - check the individual sites.

    The beaches in Batangas are options if one is from/in Manila and wants to go to a near beach and doesn't want to travel by air or sea.
    Last edited by katie23; 09-11-2015 at 08:01 PM.

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    Thanks Katie, that's interesting and thanks for details. Can try that option next time. I don't want to travel by air because of airport sec these times takes so much time with multiple laptops and electronics etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    arrive in Batangas at 10 pm, jeepneys may be scarce. Tricycles are probably the only option. Trike drivers may or may not charge more during night trips
    They will always want to charge more if you are 'cano especially if you are with local/asian looking female. And your options are limited when the darkness falls.

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    Yes, overcharging of foreigners is much worse, in the Philippines than it is in Thailand. Probably because the Philippines only gets 20% of the amount of foreign tourists Thailand gets. Many places just do not see a foreigner from one month to the next, when they do, they can quite often reveal their ignorance by trying to charge double.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callippo View Post

    Only mongers associate Subic and Baretto with bars and bargirls. She didn't see one the whole time we were there. It was primarily a beach weekend break, and we were lucky - the weather was good. For entertainment in the evenings, we drove the 8km into Olongapo city where there is a range of options like live bands and plushier-type videoke bars. Only saddos go to those crappy Subic girl bars and I certainly would never bring a girl to one. They're terrible.
    I thought Subic beach was crap. A small dirty looking thing almost as bad as Pattaya's.
    The Subic girly bars are just your standard girly bars you find anywhere mostly populated by dancers who have clearly been following a western diet.
    I was only in Olongapo City during the day but the nightlife had to be better than Barettos.

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    @ExitStrategy: You're welcome. If my memory is right, the beaches in San Juan are whiter and nicer than those in Nasugbu. However, Nasugbu is easier to reach via public transport - less transfers. If my time was limited and if I were to choose which beach, I'd choose Nasugbu.

    Re: overcharging, they overcharge even us locals, esp. if you don't speak the dialect. When I was in the Visayas or Mindanao, I was sometimes overcharged since I don't speak Cebuano/Visayan. But yes, they prolly charge "kano" more.

    Re: Subic beach, I can't comment since I haven't been there. I've only been to Subic once, on a school trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by callippo View Post

    Only mongers associate Subic and Baretto with bars and bargirls. She didn't see one the whole time we were there. It was primarily a beach weekend break, and we were lucky - the weather was good. For entertainment in the evenings, we drove the 8km into Olongapo city where there is a range of options like live bands and plushier-type videoke bars. Only saddos go to those crappy Subic girl bars and I certainly would never bring a girl to one. They're terrible.
    I thought Subic beach was crap. A small dirty looking thing almost as bad as Pattaya's.
    The Subic girly bars are just your standard girly bars you find anywhere mostly populated by dancers who have clearly been following a western diet.
    I was only in Olongapo City during the day but the nightlife had to be better than Barettos.
    Pattaya vs Baloy beach, Baloy probably emerges the winner. Jomtien probably better than Baloy though.

    You can have the occasional decent session in one of the foreigner bars there. Grl bars I never bother with anywhere, but especially not in the Philippines where is totty around every corner. Although I did wander into one very briefly and bought a girl a drink and talked about her pay and conditions, which are different to Thailand the night Yuppie went back to Manila.

    Really you would have been better off going to Boracay for a week for a Philippines taster than Angeles and Subic.

    Philippines can be brilliant. Right at this moment I am on a genuinely top class beach, Santiago on the Camotes with a Danao Mitsumi girl. If you know the way to play it, the Philippines can be better than Thailand. Although Thailand is brilliant too.

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