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    One Night Stay in Manila or Angeles City?

    Hi all. A bit of a long story, but I've won a flight to Clark with Emirates. Yay!! I will be going to Clark on Jan 22nd, then to Palawan on the 23rd. On either the 29th or 30th I'm going to BKK with Philippines Airlines which flies from Manila.

    The only place that I haven't booked yet is where to stay overnight on Feb 7th for my flight back to Dubai from Clark. The flight leaves at 17:40 so that gives me time in the morning and lunchtime to lounge around by the pool.

    My flight from BKK to Manila arrive late at night, between 11:00 and 11:30 so that could be an issue. Would I be better staying overnight in Manila, then just taking a bus or taxi to Clark in the morning, or going straight to a place near Clark at that time of the night? Either way I will lose time, but I'm just not sure about the transport late at night, and I've heard that the traffic during the day is pretty bad (Bangkok-ish or even worse).

    I appreciate any help guys.

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    Sorry to not pop in with good advice, Nat, but like most folks who are longtime residents somewhere, I never use hotels or public transportation here. I'm sure that there are a number of new options available to go from Manila airport to the airport at Clark, but I just don't know them. Best of luck.

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    Aloha Hotel is on the waterfront in Manila and is an okay place (or was when I stayed there about 5 years ago). Things may have changed though. Google it and see.
    If you are staying in Angeles at all, then Pacific Breeze has a nice pool and is fairly new.
    Watch out for the cabbies at Manila airport. Will try and show you a card with "tourist charges" on it. Frigging scam. Take it and toss it out the window and tell them "metre or no fare."

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    Quote Originally Posted by grasshopper View Post
    Watch out for the cabbies at Manila airport. Will try and show you a card with "tourist charges" on it. Frigging scam. Take it and toss it out the window and tell them "metre or no fare."

    I haven't been to Manila for a few years now but the last time I was there the scams you mention had almost disappeared. Officials at the airport were noting the numbers of cabs and where they were going. I am not saying it doesn't happen now but I think you will find it is now where near as bad - will try to check with some locals who are friends of mine (had the meter scam experience with one of them years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by grasshopper
    If you are staying in Angeles at all, then Pacific Breeze has a nice pool and is fairly new.
    I'm leaning more towards going straight to Angeles to stay the night, then that way I have the whole morning and lunchtime to lounge by the pool and relax before going to Clark.

    I'll look them up and see if they have a pickup service. If they don't, I believe that there is a shuttle from Manila Airport to Clark, and I can get a driver from there.

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    Better to head down there at night when the traffic is low, otherwise you'll spend most of your time getting out of Manila.

    I alway stay at the Angeles Beach Club Hotel in Angeles (there is a small beach near the pool!). They do airport pickup.

    (Others have recommended me the Lewis Grand, which is quite close, but I've never stayed there).

    Then you can have a laze by the pool in the morning or even wander over to the enormous SM Mall which is a few minutes away - the ABC Hotel has a free limo service.

    It's one of the nicer hotels, but there are plenty of cheaper options, I just don't know if they do the pickup as well.

    When you walk out of Manila airport, you just go straight across the road and follow the signs, the drivers for hotels normally wait there.

    Or if you're flush they have their own helicopter, it's about $250 to fly straight to the hotel in Angeles. It's 2.5-3 hours by road.



    P.S. Angeles is right next door to Clark, 10-15 minutes to the airport I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Or if you're flush they have their own helicopter, it's about $250 to fly straight to the hotel
    Only $250???!!!! Since my flights are so cheap I might consider this.

    Good point about heading there at night to beat the traffic. This is weird, though. Out of curiosity I checked on flights to BKK from Clark. As of last week, they were all sold out. When I checked last night, there were quite a few new flights from Clark to BKK with Tigerair for a lower price than Philippines Airlines. PA was around $208 US and Tigerair was only $160.

    So this solves the issue of my return from BKK, but I will still need to get from Manila airport to Clark when I return from Palawan.

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    Scratch that, looks like they've stopped the helicopter service.

    Not that it's as much fun in the dark anyway.

    www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post

    Would I be better staying overnight in Manila, then just taking a bus or taxi to Clark in the morning, or going straight to a place near Clark at that time of the night?
    Last time I was there, traffic in Manila could be pretty bad. Angeles City is not a pretty place but as you are only passing through IMO it would probably be best to book an upmarket place ( thus avoiding the sex tourists a bit ) and stay there whilst waiting for your flights. Otherwise the drive to and from Manila is a bit tedious with nothing much to see.

    Get googling !

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    The last time I drove from Manila to Angeles, we passed a group of girls walking on the pavement, and about an hour later they overtook us.

    Traffic in Metro Manila is worse than Bangkok.

    That's why I'd recommend going at night.

    +1 with Davis re getting transport organised by a hotel rather than strolling out and jumping in a taxi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The last time I drove from Manila to Angeles, we passed a group of girls walking on the pavement, and about an hour later they overtook us.


    When I looked at Pacific Breeze, they showed that you can have a pickup from Manila airport for just over 2,100 pesos. At first I thought that was a lot because it's almost as much as my flight to Palawan (cheap cheap), but when I converted it to US$ it came out to just over $60. Considering the time it takes to get to Angeles City adn the fact that I would have my own driver, this is super reasonable, just like the prices for the rooms.

    Bangyai, as you mentioned, I'm only passing through and need a quiet decent place for one night and I want a pool for the monring etc. I've checked on Tripadvisor and there seems to be a real mix in AC, similar to some areas of BKK, like places that are used by working girls, etc, but Pacific Breeze has had good reviews overall.

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    Try the Peninsular in Makarti. You will get a really good nights rest. Also a good bar and a pool under the overhanging palms.

    Sorry cannot help you regards the general taxies. My brother-in-law is a driver for one, so I'm under close escort the minute I come down the exit ramp.

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    If you're going to be in Manila, trying Googling the Robinson Mall in the Ermita area of Manila. It's close to the American Embassy and close to the airport. There was a thriving nightlife area similar to any Thai bar area near that mall. Be careful though, Manila makes Pattaya seem as safe as Fort Knox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN
    Try the Peninsular
    I'll check it out. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Googling the Robinson Mall
    I actually did take a look at that because it has a shuttle to/from Clark.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Be careful though, Manila makes Pattaya seem as safe as Fort Knox.
    No worries. I'll be observant of all these things.

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    Minor point: It's the Peninsula Hotel, Makati. Not Peninsular. Close to everything.

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    Ah, OK. I remember seeing it in my searches for where to stay.

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    Again: I can't tell you how mad the traffic is. Get of out Manila while it's quiet.

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    Harry, I will, for sure. Here's my flight schedule:

    Jan 22nd Arrive at Clark from Dubai at 15:55
    Jan 23rd at 10:10 am fly Manila to Puerto Princesa
    *This will definitely mean going directly to Manila from Clark right when I arrive

    Jan 27 Back to Manila at 2:10 PM

    Jan 28 Clark to Bangkok at 3:40 PM
    *Spend the night before near Clark

    Then my return is to Clark late at night on Feb 7th and I come back to Dubai on the afternoon of the 8th.

    Cheers guys.

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    Forget about sunning and relaxing as the number one priority and pick times of least traffic to do your transter from

    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8
    Jan 27 Back to Manila at 2:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8
    Jan 28 Clark to Bangkok at 3:40 PM *Spend the night before near Clark
    It seems like you have a 3 hour drive to your new place because allowing 1.5 hours to collect your luggage, clear customs and get a taxi you are going to be in the heaviest traffic. Suck it up I guess and get to your place near Clark 7 or 8pm. From there its easy.

    You will be using Swampy and Don Muang as well. Have fun. Some plan you have made.

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    I know. Murphy's Law but both of my flights are really cheap and direct. I'm only using Swampy for BKK, no Don Muang.

    It will be Clark to BKK Swampy and back to Clark, a direct flight.

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    So just realize that Manila traffic is worse than here, and I have never seen anything like here for the last year. It is total gridlock. But we have a ring road network, a sky train, a subway, they have diddly. You worry like me. So do the right thing.

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    Ya, worry is a big issue for me, especially when it comes to timing with traveling.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    It seems like you have a 3 hour drive to your new place because allowing 1.5 hours to collect your luggage, clear customs and get a taxi you are going to be in the heaviest traffic. Suck it up I guess and get to your place near Clark 7 or 8pm. From there its easy.
    That looks like the plan, Stan.

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    Okay you may go now...... Best plan Nat.

    Not an appropriate title I hope, but I want to listen, its been awhile. Cheers.


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    They run a baby plane shuttle from Manila to Clark Just can't think of the name of the Airline. Only Taxis allowed at the Airport. The road out has a huge Jeepny (bus) station on the left, where you can also get a trike. Failing that, having crossed the main road (the lights are staggered, so you have an even chance), you can stroll down the side road between the park and a Police station and experience the sheer hell that is local traffic!

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