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    You guys seem confused...

    You pay 100-130 Baht for a bottle of beer.(My San Miguel Light was 130 Baht)
    You then get a second bottle "free". If you only have/want one beer, it's 130 Baht.
    The "help" is not only not paid, but pays said "bar" to leave!

    These folks might be nominated for the Nobel prize for marketing. Convince those unable to focus it's two for one when they charge double for the first one, and convince people to work for not only no wage but to pay to quit working!

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    50-65THB a beer then

    I never only have one.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post

    I never only have one.....
    Beer or free lancers?

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    Beer.

    Don't even waste conversation on bar girls, there is nothing that they can say that is going to be remotely interesting.

    Mind you, they don't have then in most bars I drink in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Beer

    I don't shag sluts
    Who are you calling a "slut"? The ladies are all the same here in Thailand so again, who do you refer??

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    It would be wonderful to think that there is one bar in Pattaya which would attract all the Aussies and keep them together in one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NokTang View Post
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    Beer

    I don't shag sluts
    Who are you calling a "slut"? The ladies are all the same here in Thailand so again, who do you refer??
    I withdrew it, it was harsh, but to suggest all Thai women are the same is preposterous.

    So to answer your question.... Pattaya prostitutes come under the heading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
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    Beer

    I don't shag sluts
    Who are you calling a "slut"? The ladies are all the same here in Thailand so again, who do you refer??
    I withdrew it, it was harsh, but to suggest all Thai women are the same is preposterous.

    So to answer your question.... Pattaya prostitutes come under the heading.
    Okay, but not to belabor the point, but I might suggest you take a closer look at the concept of prostitution here in Thailand and focus your disdain more towards the human traffickers than the middle aged women "working" the game in various farang "bars" here in Pattaya. The women here don't consider themselves prostitutes and neither do the customers. We share a common need most of said women have, and we give them money not for these satisfactions but rather to simply help them meet their financial ends and obligations to their families. I meant that "all women" be them working in a GoGo bar or a beer bar or on Beach Road are the same. This doesn't include those on the BTS or working "regular" jobs in for instance Bangkok office buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    It would be wonderful to think that there is one bar in Pattaya which would attract all the Aussies and keep them together in one place.
    What about the stench that would create?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    than to sit outside sweating your nads off at On Nut Beer Garden.
    is your ortrich skin handbag safe ?

    and as for the OP - I bet I know

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    Re Australians, my personal preerence is to have a good mix of farang ethnicities. Without a convict present, it would generally be a poorer night out. Same goes for other commonwealth citizens.
    It's a bit like an orchestra. You need some soothing strings, some melodious wind instruments, a few tinkling keboards and a bit of brash base and crashing symbols for the ultimate cresendo.
    Throw another Belgian on the barbie mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NokTang View Post
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    Beer

    I don't shag sluts
    Who are you calling a "slut"? The ladies are all the same here in Thailand so again, who do you refer??
    I withdrew it, it was harsh, but to suggest all Thai women are the same is preposterous.

    So to answer your question.... Pattaya prostitutes come under the heading.
    Okay, but not to belabor the point, but I might suggest you take a closer look at the concept of prostitution here in Thailand and focus your disdain more towards the human traffickers than the middle aged women "working" the game in various farang "bars" here in Pattaya. The women here don't consider themselves prostitutes and neither do the customers. We share a common need most of said women have, and we give them money not for these satisfactions but rather to simply help them meet their financial ends and obligations to their families. I meant that "all women" be them working in a GoGo bar or a beer bar or on Beach Road are the same. This doesn't include those on the BTS or working "regular" jobs in for instance Bangkok office buildings.
    You can suggest all you want, but you live in a whole different world to me and the people I choose to associate with. The people you don't include are the majority of the female population many of whom struggle by without resorting to the lazy ignorant option. They are also the people who inhabit my world. You may have the utmost respect for bar girls I find them rather irritating on the occasions I drink in places that have them.

    They may not consider themselves prostitutes but grow up and smell the coffee....that's exactly what they are and you are a sad punter. Lyon are clearly happy with that, good Luck to you, at least are not in denial, but don't expect me to come along for the ride.

    I deleted it because it was unnecessary and a bit rude, not because it wasn't true.

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    One last point, you are clearly new to Thailand and all of us had a honeymoon period here.....keep enjoying yours, long may it last. I'm now off for a few Belgians in Thong Lor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    I'm now off for a few Belgians in Thong Lor.

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    Ahem...... You don't happen to know where that is do you?

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    Okay, another weekend is upon us. I'm going to ride by said scamming bar and attempt to pick up a freelancer without getting off my motorcycle and not paying a "barfine" and not buying a "lady drink" and not "buying her out" of said bar for some 10,000.baht. Wish me luck!

    BTW, my last visit described above, it dawned on me later...the night I was there with a mate was the "once a week" night they give the ladies their lady drink commissions. So, that may explain why so many girls in there that particular night. It was also early, about 8pm, and they had a huge stack of lady drink coupons to pay off to I guess whoever showed up? Overall my opinion hasn't changed, it's crooked and a scam. I hope someone is arrested and jailed. I despise these practices. Cheers mate.

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    Getting pints of Guinness in the RH fr 179bt a pint last week...

    Not to shabby.

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    ^

    You are not referring to the " Road House Bar and Grill " on Surawong are you. ?

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    Robin Hood I suspect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Don't even waste conversation on bar girls, there is nothing that they can say that is going to be remotely interesting.
    ...especially to a North Walian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Robin Hood I suspect
    Rock House is my guess.

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    Popped into Billabong last night for the first time in ages. Its now apparently wholly Thai owned. The decent free lancers have all left to be replaced by the residents of a local retirement home and I reckon I was one of the very few customers who wasn't wearing a Singha/Chang/Leo vest stretched over a beer belly and growling at other look a like customers. The place has suddenly turned to shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by NokTang View Post
    Overall my opinion hasn't changed, it's crooked and a scam. I hope someone is arrested and jailed. I despise these practices. Cheers mate.
    I continue to work behind the scenes to get such antics off the market. The entire concept of paying a barfine when the ladies don't work there along with that of "buy one, get one free" when you pay double for the first drink are not as I say "business practices" which should be condoned and/or supported. It's nothing but a scam on well meaning blokes who know no better and as you say, wear disgusting tank tops rarely laundered. I'm up because I've got to puke. Now I know why. It's because this is still going on.

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    Gosh! Heaven forbid a brothel should attract an undesirable element of the lumpen whoremongering fraternity in a city renown for its prostitution.

    Clearly, the days when one could discuss Cartesian logic and its relevance to Wittgenstein, whilst engaging in a deep and meaningful conversation over a game of Connect with a bandy -legged, pug nosed Isaan hooker replete with stretch marks and a marked inability to incorporate the verb ' to be " in any sentence, are long gone.

    And the effrontery of having to actually pay a pimp for these prostitutes who still frequent the place? Whatever next?

    Frankly, it really is quite extraordinary how some Westerners are still clinging to the fanciful notion they are somehow better than others whom they consider to be inferior because of their perceived sartorial inelegance, weathered looks and portly physique - you are all vestiges of a demographic thats withering on the vine of licentious self indulgence.

    The days of the lower end, blue collar worker escaping from the West, seeking cheap commercial sex in circumstances not available otherwise, are past. They no longer can afford it and the meat market here in Pattaya has moved on to accommodate whore mongers from the Indian sub-continent, the Middle east, Turkey and Iran.

    The hundreds of beer bars that still ply their trade are miserable places where the whores are increasingly unattractive, older and more raddled by the year all vying for the meagre attentions of the passing punter mostly confined to the geriatric, the repellent and those stranded on the high tide of their pitiful addiction to sex they cannot obtain from a normal relationship.

    But, I suppose if they can still buy a bottle of Heineken at 60bt a pop and not pay the whore's pimp a fee because they believe the prostitute is a "freelancer", then everything is just fine and dandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Gosh! Heaven forbid a brothel should attract an undesirable element of the lumpen whoremongering fraternity in a city renown for its prostitution.
    You have completely lost the plot....

    Here is the plot for your consideration....

    We have a "bar", which doesn't employ waitress's or hostess's, requiring by intimidation and other tactics, said sex workers to get the most ignorant among the visitors to pay said bar a "fee" for her to leave with him. In addition, they are prompting the most idiotic sales technique ever thought up in nursery school of charging double for one drink, and giving the second one away for "free" and calling it "two for one" for a beverage.

    As for the element of farangs catering to or acting like they belong in such an environment, I will concede some do like being surrounded by prostitutes who are actually available vs. pretending to be and just working for "tips and drinks"...but please note...there ARE some of the ladies, usually the most attractive, who are in fact just hustling "tips and drinks" with no intention of going out on a real date with said customers...

    I forgot to mention above, they also sell lady drinks at said venue. I don't recall the prices, but yet another scam and the ladies "share" isn't paid nightly, but weekly.

    All of it, while an individuals choice whether to cater said "business", remains a joke on the customer and he(or if any she's) might at some point understand that it is nothing but a fourth world scam on him and resent it.

    Up to you of course.

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