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    Sailing into trouble

    Last week I was invited to join a couple of friends for an overnight sail around Pattaya islands.

    We left after lunch and we reached Ko Phai after a pretty uneventful journey. We anchored in a small bay next to two local fishing boats. The beach was very quiet with what looked like a small restaurant into the trees without much activity. We decided to spend the night there and was about to start the barbecue when a small motor boat with three young guys on board left the beach to visit the local fishing boats. They had a look at our boat but didn't come close. The boat went back to the beach, no big deal. But then 10 mn later it came back with this time 5-6 young guys on board and went straight to our boat. They asked if we had some whisky to share, they had a couple of fishes in a plastic bag probably for some kind of bargain. They were a bit pushy but not drunk and not really aggressive. After we made clear that we have no alcohol to offer and they wouldn't be allowed to come on board, they left and went back to the beach.

    After they left we didn't really know what to think about the incident, honestly a bit worried that they may come back later, drunk and more aggressive so we decided to go back to Ko Lan to spend the night there.

    They were Thai, didn't look like fishermen. We believe they were military and belong to some local navy base but just a guess.

    What do you think about that ? Have you heard of similar incident? Were we a bunch of cowards to leave the bay or was it the reasonable thing to do? What would you have done in a similar situation ?
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    It sounds like you did.the right thing mate, if you got such a bad vibe off of those guys there was a reason for it, cowardice got nothing to do with it.

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    Always follow your gut instinct.

    If it doesn't feel right then it probably isn't.

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    Better Safe than sorry !!

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    I was standing at the supermarket check-out yesterday, the girl looked at me in a strange way. I fucked off out of there quicksmart.
    I had a lucky escape methinks.

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    I agree with the first 3 replies. Forget your ego......idiocy abounds in alcohol-fueled Thais.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    I was standing at the supermarket check-out yesterday, the girl looked at me in a strange way. I fucked off out of there quicksmart.
    I had a lucky escape methinks.
    And that was the highlight of your week. Even probably the month.

    Thank you for sharing and have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota
    Thank you for sharing and have a nice day.
    He can't have a nice day, being the bitter cnut he is...He would have stayed in the bay and had his balls crushed at midnight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    I was standing at the supermarket check-out yesterday, the girl looked at me in a strange way. I fucked off out of there quicksmart.
    I had a lucky escape methinks.
    mean, but funny

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    Doesn't sound right to me.

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    You could have just thrown your empty beer cans in the water after the barbeque and started plinking with whatever hand guns you had on board. That usually keeps the neighbors away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    You could have just thrown your empty beer cans in the water after the barbeque and started plinking with whatever hand guns you had on board. That usually keeps the neighbors away.
    No gun on board, that's the first thing that I asked, not even a bloody slingshot.

    More seriously I don't think these people were really dangerous, they look more like a band of bored young guys stranded in the middle of nowhere with nothing to drink. But this trip was supposed to be fun, there is no fun spending the night with eyes open jumping at the faintest noise. As some were a bit worried I believe moving away was the right decision.

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    Sensible to move. A half bottle of whisky with six crushed Xanax mixed in might have worked too. Im not suggesting on drugging the local male population. But its more gentlecthan shooting them

    The islands off Pattaya are crap. I found sailing out of Ocean Marina disappointing. Rubbish strewn water, dickhead speedboats etc

    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits. The captains on them are rotated every six weeks so even getting to know one is no guarantee youll be welcome a few weeks later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?
    No. The guards on some of those islands are armed, and they get rights ansty about people coming too near.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?
    No. The guards on some of those islands are armed, and they get rights ansty about people coming too near.
    The young guys who came to visit us look like military : short hair, clean cut, good physical shape. They didn't look like Burmese fishermen nor students. I was wondering if we didn't get too close to one of these naval base and they were checking on us. But they were not wearing any uniform. They were probably just relaxing when we arrived and saw the opportunity to get free booze for the evening ...

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    Navy for sure. Doubt you would have had a problem but discretion is the better part of valor.

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    I went ashore with some friends a few years back on one of the Thai islands and lit a barbie. Within half an hour had lads shouting at us. We just played dumb. Eventually the boss man arrived with a gun toting entourage. So I invited them all to join us.

    To cut a long story short he suggested we anchor in the next bay opposite the encampment and joined them ashore. We emptied my booze locker to share and ended up wit one of those pissed up till 1am nights that Thais are quite good at.

    The following day they asked us to ferry one of the sailors to mainland which we did and drove him up to Satahip

    In true Thai navy fashion thevsailor didnt know one end of a boat from thevother and was quite seasick :-)

    The captain kept phoning me for weeks afterwards. I think he fancied me. :-O in a way that will forever disabuse Blue of the calibre of Royal Thai Navy officers

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    Cant remember the name - its WNW off the northern tip of K Larn about the same distance further out again as K Larn from the mainland

    Probably the most valuable tourist real estate in the entire fiefdom with absolutely Pristine beaches and a couple of excellent anchorages

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    It does sound like the OP met some Thai sailors who exemplify the high standards of the Royal Thai Navy

    Just bored sailors looking for a drink and rape your daughter or wife. Or failing that, possibly you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?
    They make the rules up as they go along. But basically no landing, no anchoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?
    They make the rules up as they go along. But basically no landing, no anchoring.
    I was on a dive boat that must have anchored a wee bit too close to one of the navy islands. Swabbie on shore fired off a couple of shots to let us know the error of our ways. We moved, sharpish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound
    The navy owned islands are better but are supposedly off limits.
    what are the boundries ? can you anchor ? walk on the beach up to high tide etc ?
    They make the rules up as they go along. But basically no landing, no anchoring.
    I was on a dive boat that must have anchored a wee bit too close to one of the navy islands. Swabbie on shore fired off a couple of shots to let us know the error of our ways. We moved, sharpish.
    In a proper country the islands would be training bases etc. In Thailand it's more likely a centre for smuggling, trafficking, holding people to ransom or just old fashioned buggery of the prettier young conscripts. Prying eyes are most definitely not welcome.

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    Just a note for the future.. I do quite a bit of sailing usually off Koh Chang down to Koh Hood and KOh Mak ect ect... Beautiful down there when you have wind that is.. Just back from bringing a boat to Samui (delivery) and I always carry a Gun on board for pure peace of mind other than anything... out there its up to YOU! to protect yourself /family/crew not much point in calling for help out there your on your own baby....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombeckett View Post
    Just a note for the future.. I do quite a bit of sailing usually off Koh Chang down to Koh Hood and KOh Mak ect ect... Beautiful down there when you have wind that is.. Just back from bringing a boat to Samui (delivery) and I always carry a Gun on board for pure peace of mind other than anything... out there its up to YOU! to protect yourself /family/crew not much point in calling for help out there your on your own baby....
    I wouldn't take a gun on board unless :
    1/ Everybody agree
    2/ The person who has the gun has (professional) experience of "conflict resolution"

    The situation I described was peacefully resolved. The persons I was with were a bit worried that the young guys may come back later so for peace of mind we decided to move but there was never any physical threat from the other side. Now suppose that a nervous guy on board take a gun out. What's going to happen ? That's why I don't think that having a gun without proper training is good thing. And when I talk about proper training I'm not talking about target shooting.

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