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    Thai restaurant without MSG

    Whenever we used to go out to a Thai restaurant and eat MSG laden food, I would feel ill for up to a day after. Home-cooked Thai food doesn't have this effect at all.
    So, does anybody know of a Thai restaurant in the Pattaya area which doesn't use MSG in the cooking process?

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    All of them - just ask them not to add it to the food.

    Simples.

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    Mai sai, pong shoe rod (crap).

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    Thanks for the replies, but, tried that many times. No guarantee it will be served without MSG. Even in the restaurants where wifey hand writes our request in Thai. The request for no MSG gets a questioning look and the meal is served with MSG. Maybe MSG is connected with the word aroy in the chef's mind.

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    Problem is, it is in most of the pre-packaged sauces they use as well. It's only tapioca though, so it shouldn't have such a nasty effect either way. Perhaps there is something else afoot like poor hygiene or the use of too much oil?

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    Could be something else. Thanks for your considered reply. I will stick to the delicious stuff served up in our kitchen, punctuated by my barely edible attempts. I never feel ill after either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopmad
    I never feel ill after either.
    I have the same thing sometimes, and attribute it to the amount of cheap crap oil they use in most places. Half a cup at least in each dish and its just too much.

    Where about in Pattaya are you? There are a few places I could recomment on the dark side, and in the centre, the food hall above the Garden City Mall play is top notch.
    Originally Posted by bsnub "No wonder I drive a tesla"

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    Eat only at the restaurants where you don't feel ill afterwards. If one does not agree with you, don't go back.

    I have my regular places and have no problems.

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    If you want to eat something healthy in Thailand better forget it...

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    It's true that many Thai restaurants use cheap crap oil, and it's not good for our health at all. However many people have issues with MSG, for good reason :
    • MSG tricks your tongue into making you think a certain food is high in protein and thus nutritious. It is not a "meat tenderizer". It is not a "preservative". The food industry is trying to confuse the issue by focusing on the "fifth" taste sense they call umami. Free glutamic acid is detected by the taste buds as a simple way to signal the presence of protein in a food, just as there are fat receptors to detect fats and receptors that sense carbohydrate or sweet flavors. The purpose is to help us discern real food from inedible matter. It changes your perception of not simply taste but the nutritious qualities of what you put into your mouth. However, and here is the main problem with free glutamic acid - It is the very same neurotransmitter that your brain and many organs including your ears, eyes, nervous system and pancreas in your body use to initiate certain processes in your body.
    • MSG stimulates the pancreas to produce insulin. So many diets these days are concerned about the Glycemic Index of foods and yet none of them address the fact that MSG and free glutamic acid stimulate the pancreas to release insulin when there doesn't even have to be carbohydrates in the food for that insulin to act on. The food industry has found their own "anti-appetite suppressant". It's a convenient way to keep consumers coming back for more. The blood sugar drops because of the insulin flood. And you are hungry an hour later. Sound familiar?
    • The body changes excess glutamate to GABA. GABA may be addictive. It is calming and affects the same receptors in the brain as valium.
    And according to the mayo Clinic :

    " Researchers have found no definitive evidence of a link between MSG and these symptoms. Researchers acknowledge, though, that a small percentage of people may have short-term reactions to MSG. Symptoms are usually mild and don't require treatment. The only way to prevent a reaction is to avoid foods containing MSG".


    I too feel rather crap after having had it; nothing clearly definable...just crap...even the next day.


    Down the bottom of this link,

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-cabinets.aspx

    you can see a list of ingredients which contain MSG, which the restaurants you have been to may be using, but unaware that MSG is in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopmad View Post
    I will stick to the delicious stuff served up in our kitchen.
    Intelligent and resourceful decision.

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    Very interesting link from Latindancer.
    So when we request that no MSG be added to our meal, the cook may comply, but MSG may be in the flavourings or other additives used in the cooking process, and it might not be labelled as MSG.

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    Eating food containing MSG on an empty stomach increases the risk of the onslaught of MSG symptoms in people allergic or sensitive to MSG because more of the chemical is consequently absorbed into the bloodstream.
    try drinking milk, prior to eating to line your stomach

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    Just say: "Mai aow chulot" or Mai aow ajinomoto".
    Still all the the fish sauce and soy sauce is loaded with it.

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    MSG does not cause these problems. It's all in your mind folks.

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    Thanks for revealing where YOUR main problem lies

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    Thai chefs & cooks love using pongcharot (MSG), by the heaped spoonful. It's an easy fix.

    My wife was in the industry for many years & avoids the stuff like the plague. Her food always tastes so much better than the restaurant meals, by careful selection of ingredients, spices, cooking techniques.

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