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    Rethinking retirement in Thailandís capital of sleaze

    Thursday 02 Jan 2014
    Rethinking retirement in Thailand’s capital of sleaze
    UK Channel 4 News

    As cities go, it’s about as trashy-looking as it gets. In fact, it’s probably the seediest place that you have never heard of.

    Pattaya is a seaside community on Thailand’s eastern shore – an urban extravert that works hard to impress.

    Blazing neon signs offer cheap booze and oil massage and “rooms-by-the-hour”. Down below, bar-girls and parlour workers make their road-side pitch to thousands of prospective customers.

    It is a raucous, unapologetic sort of place and not surprisingly, there are many people who try hard to avoid it.

    At the country’s tourism ministry, bureaucrats see it as something of an embarrassment and there are plenty of Thais – and foreigner visitors – who give it a wide-berth.

    It simply does not measure up to the palm-fringed ideal that many associate with this southeast Asian nation.

    However, that does not mean we should look the other way because something really important is happening there. When you take a look at all those “prospective customers” plying the streets of neon, you soon realise that the majority of them are retired.

    Over the last two years there has been a huge increase in the numbers of elderly European men turning up in Pattaya – and they are not passing through – they have come here to live.

    According to the Thai authorities, people from the UK make up by far the largest group of over 65′s in the city and their number has increased by a massive 43 per cent during that period.

    In terms of total numbers, there are 7,000 Britons in the city on retirement visas but they are joined by tens of thousands of other UK seniors who come on regular tourist visas and renew them periodically (the British Embassy estimates 870,000 people from the UK came to Thailand last year on tourist visas).

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    you can not keep the lid on a pot of boiling water .

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    Yellow Journalism ??

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    I reckon the concept of these retirement villages or communities in Thailand, or other relatively low cost developing countries, could be a tremendous success. Another interesting concept is a village, or resort, for the disabled. Thailand is not exactly known for catering for the mobility impaired, but the Lake Mabprachan resort, east of Pattaya, tried exactly that- I have no idea how it's going (anyone know?). I believe the resort was bought by some aussies, with that in mind.

    There are the usual developing country malaise' though- undercapitalised private investors (often dodgy), the nightmare of national bureaucratic regulations, as well as persistant corruption, lack of any meaningful protection for the investor or buyer, etc. Basically, a few bigger players need to get involved for this to take off- hotel chains, private hospital operators such as (Ramsay Healthcare), or even sizable, solid property developers. But the potential is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    But the potential is there.
    Add in the opportunity of premium priced (although still affordable) medical insurance/care that they're missing out on. Sensible visa rules would ensure income stayed in Thailand and not neighbouring countries.

    The list is probably endless on opportunities that Thais are missing out on because of their ignorance, stupidity and childish xenophobia.

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    its easy to pick faults with the place...but imho, its a great place to live...

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    ... i think it is a great place to make money from a saturated farang market....

    .... actually lets call it a phat market of sunburnt red human lobsters just wanting to give their money away in as short a period as possible... just take a stroll on Walking Street and watch them throw it away,,,,

    as for the rest of us we get to enjoy the great medical and dental services provided for a fraction of the price to our homelands, superb food and economical housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilicaStorm
    ..... actually lets call it a phat market of sunburnt red human lobsters just wanting to give their money away in as short a period as possible... just take a stroll on Walking Street and watch them throw it away,,,,
    Pathetic aren't they.

    So glad we're ripped, bronzed and watching our money make money.



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    great medical and dental services provided for a fraction of the price to our homelands, superb food and economical housing.
    Yeah those will be the things to look out for in pattaya and isaan.

    Oh, and don't forget the temples.

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    Horny pervy old men who will end up posting on TD about how shit Thailand is .
    Come on in, plenty more spaces available

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    In Bangkok we have medical tourism. Pattaya has wallet tourism.

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    ^Are they buffalo-hide wallets?...Or sole-plated?...

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    If people dis-like Pattaya fine don't go there. Simple. Pattaya is the worlds biggest open air brothel and as such will attract that type of customer. Outside of Pattaya such as Bang Saray is a nice little seaside town and many other places.

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    I don't understand Pattaya the place smells like raw sewerage 24/7 yet with all the thousands of lady boys and shit pumping poofters there they still can't get rid of the smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I reckon the concept of these retirement villages or communities in Thailand, or other relatively low cost developing countries, could be a tremendous success. Another interesting concept is a village, or resort, for the disabled. Thailand is not exactly known for catering for the mobility impaired, but the Lake Mabprachan resort, east of Pattaya, tried exactly that- I have no idea how it's going (anyone know?). I believe the resort was bought by some aussies, with that in mind.

    There are the usual developing country malaise' though- undercapitalised private investors (often dodgy), the nightmare of national bureaucratic regulations, as well as persistant corruption, lack of any meaningful protection for the investor or buyer, etc. Basically, a few bigger players need to get involved for this to take off- hotel chains, private hospital operators such as (Ramsay Healthcare), or even sizable, solid property developers. But the potential is there.
    In PC UK is sexual incontinence a disability now?
    Sheltered geezers twilight villages with 24 on call, aherm call girls sounds just what the old bloke in Swindon needs. In my day they were happy with Tossa del Mar.

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    Pattaya caters for how would you say, perhaps, the enlightened gent who see's the BS that the West dictates about protocol approaching the opposite sex, which, includes a lot of cash as foreplay. Here you can go straight in without BS. Wonder why it is popular!

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    Wonder whatever happened to 'silica storm'?

    Dividing his time between Isaan and Pattaya, whilst obviously keepin' it classy?

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    What I find interesting is that the UK is well represented in Pattaya.

    I have to ask, why is that?

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    ^ The Russians have their money tied up in London, they holiday with the English rich in Pattaya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    What I find interesting is that the UK is well represented in Pattaya.

    I have to ask, why is that?
    Why not?

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    Long may it continue. There is something for everyone in Pattaya..We choose the way we live and best ignore the onlookers who often do nothing with their lives.

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    A person would be hard pressed indeed to find a place in the country more "un-thai" than pattaya.

    While there might be "something for everyone", it sure seems to attract a particular demographic of foreigner and thaiz too for that matter..

    Choosing to live the way you live is one thing, beating the drum about those life choices like you're proud you managed to wash up in pattaya is another thing entirely.
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    [ In my day they were happy with Tossa del Mar.:

    I went to Tossa del mar in 1984 after 3 months of working in London for the winter
    I just layed on the beach for a week it was bloody great

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    A person would be hard pressed indeed to find a place in the country more "un-thai" than pattaya.

    While there might be "something for everyone", it sure seems to attract a particular demographic of foreigner and thaiz too for that matter..

    Choosing to live the way you live is one thing, beating the drum about those life choices like you're proud you managed to wash up in pattaya is another thing entirely.
    Or BKK for that matter. Sleaze everywhere ..its about personal choices, and personal lifestyles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john1000 View Post
    Long may it continue. There is something for everyone in Pattaya..We choose the way we live and best ignore the onlookers who often do nothing with their lives.
    Still true!!

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