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    Question Rubber Fields ?

    Need some advice re rubber fields for which i know nothing about.

    Rubber field has come up for sale near route 22, Sakhon Nakhon.
    Rubber field is 25 Rai, 2000 trees, and 5 years old and i am told field will fully mature towards the end of 2011.
    Seller wants 2.5m, negotiable i suppose.
    Wife is of the opinion that it would be a good investment with a return in the first year of 30,000 a calendar month and 2nd year of 50,000 a month, but i am not so sure ??.....as i say i am in the dark.
    Any advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

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    My wife's family was offered a rubber plantation in Issan with trees that were ready for tapping. It was 45 rai and they wanted 3m Baht. I have noticed many for sale recently including very large plantations. Check Baht&Sold adds search rubber. It seems odd so many are being put up for sale recently especially in Issan. Thais don't tend to sell land that makes money. One add has 65 rai 5000 3 y/o trees for 1 300 000.oo sounds cheap. I don't know TBH maybe someone who lives in Issan can enlighten us.
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    1 rai produces upto 400 kg a year of raw latex.
    1 rai should have 72 trees, although I,ve seen alot more.
    you still have to buy fertilizer although you can grow it.
    PM James Collister, he knows more.
    You still have wages to pay.
    Doesn't sound a bad deal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    1 rai produces upto 400 kg a year of raw latex.
    1 rai should have 72 trees, although I,ve seen alot more.
    you still have to buy fertilizer although you can grow it.
    PM James Collister, he knows more.
    You still have wages to pay.
    Doesn't sound a bad deal though.
    Been said before you get what you pay for. A Thai friends family just paid 25 mil Baht for 100 Rai Charnot good trees and location. These poeple are not stupid they own factorys, appartment blocks etc. In my remote area good trees, but local title 3 to 4 mil Baht for 25 Rai. People tend not to sell good trees without a reason, after all it is a meal ticket for life. Jim

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    What sort of chanote does the land have ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    What sort of chanote does the land have ?
    No idea. The Thai land title thing I have never really understood. I have read threads that try to explain it, but just when I think I have got the picture out comes another twist in what,who or how it works. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    What sort of chanote does the land have ?
    No idea. The Thai land title thing I have never really understood. I have read threads that try to explain it, but just when I think I have got the picture out comes another twist in what,who or how it works. Jim
    Get the ownwer to get the land office out and if it hasn't a red chanote then get one.
    That's all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    What sort of chanote does the land have ?
    No idea. The Thai land title thing I have never really understood. I have read threads that try to explain it, but just when I think I have got the picture out comes another twist in what,who or how it works. Jim
    Get the ownwer to get the land office out and if it hasn't a red chanote then get one.
    That's all you need to know.
    These people use lawyers and accountants, they are not your poor rural Thais.

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    Dunno.
    Some of the iffy stuff I've seen go on.
    Guy I know manager to steal 10 rai cos no one knew who owned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    Dunno.
    Some of the iffy stuff I've seen go on.
    Guy I know manager to steal 10 rai cos no one knew who owned it.
    I rememder when I was on Samui, Thais selling land they did not own to Farangs who were too greedy for there own good. That's life. Jim

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    A friend of mine is a lawyer who worked here for nearly a decade handling land deals for Farangs.

    He's left Thailand as he finds the corruption and dishonesty associated with this work too exhausting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thormaturge View Post
    A friend of mine is a lawyer who worked here for nearly a decade handling land deals for Farangs.

    He's left Thailand as he finds the corruption and dishonesty associated with this work too exhausting.
    thought that those 2 words corruption and dishonesty were a time honoured part of the legal profession everywhere.

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    I,ve never used a solicitor that wasn't bent.
    I just wouldn't.

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    Thanks for replies.....any info on the logistics, ie. transport from field, point of sale,etc
    I am told wages can be arranged on a 40/60 agreement on the sale of rubber ??
    I take it a red chanote is a land title deed,...that document with the red bird/man symbol on top.
    As these fields are very isolated, whats to stop anyone helping themselves ? (thieving )

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    Just been looking at the price of rubber, gone up a lot in the last 2 years since i left Thailand which is all good as i have 36 rai of land just outside Buriram planted in 2006 with rubber trees which should be ready for tapping next year, the in-laws take care of them and the deal is they will get 40% and me (the wife) 60%, no doubt i'll get get diddled but on the plus side been with the misses 10 years and never had any problems/issues with the family so far!!!!!! Looks an absolute bargain i got, only paid about 300,000 baht for the 36 rai of land back in 2005, this was due to it being the mother in laws land (a nice old dear) and a family member had borrowed money against it with no way of paying it back, so good old me offered to pay it back before they lost the land on the condition that the chanote got transferred to my daughters name, quick family conference and they all agreed!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008 View Post
    Thanks for replies.....any info on the logistics, ie. transport from field, point of sale,etc
    I am told wages can be arranged on a 40/60 agreement on the sale of rubber ??
    I take it a red chanote is a land title deed,...that document with the red bird/man symbol on top.
    As these fields are very isolated, whats to stop anyone helping themselves ? (thieving )
    Kev have a look at my youtube vids you will find most of your anwsers in there somewhere. jamescollister channal . As for thieves, shoot one scare a 1000. Jim

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    Is the wife somehow related to the sellers perhaps ?

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    Don't buy land you already own.
    Jesus, the number of times I,ve seen Thai wives get their farang husbands to buy land from papa is countless, it's already hers when papa croakes.
    Farang never find out it was papas cos of the language thing.
    Nice little 2 mill in the bank for the family though.
    A family you will never really be a part of.

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    Mama and Papa dead over 15 years and 100% sure wife is not related to seller, but i agree, generally there is a subtle dishonesty about Thai people in their finance dealings, especially with Falangs( hate that word)........anyway have to be careful .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008 View Post
    Thanks for replies.....any info on the logistics, ie. transport from field, point of sale,etc
    I am told wages can be arranged on a 40/60 agreement on the sale of rubber ??
    I take it a red chanote is a land title deed,...that document with the red bird/man symbol on top.
    As these fields are very isolated, whats to stop anyone helping themselves ? (thieving )
    Kev have a look at my youtube vids you will find most of your anwsers in there somewhere. jamescollister channal . As for thieves, shoot one scare a 1000. Jim
    Thanks James....will look at them.

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    Well, i am going to pass on the rubber field...thanks too all here for advice...

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