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    Travel between Provinces

    Can anyone clarify what exactly the safety issues might be traveling in the Isaan area, discomfort aside?

    I am confused as the rural area is always described with a very light population density. Really how much risk could there be in riding 40-60km to check out another area?

    The other confusing thing to me is the time people describe to travel only a few km, I am sure the infrastructure of the transportation venues might not be as nice as some of the interstates I am used to (insert your laugh here), but I have heard some extreme estimates on time for a distance that here even on dirt roads would take only an hour as 3-5 hour trips. Any input?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    Can anyone clarify what exactly the safety issues might be traveling in the Isaan area
    Main safety issue is the twats that drive the buses..

    That and being sat next to an insanely cackling old granny with a gob full of betelnut.

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    A lot of the old non air con buses stop every couple of km, lots of waiting time whilst they try to fill the bus etc etc.

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    Sorry I meant to travel via scooter, people do this right?

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    The roads are pretty dangerous for bombing along on, ie people pulling out in front of you without looking etc, takes a lot of concentration to keep at a good pace safely here.

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    Driving or riding in Thailand is not hard. Just slow down- there are plenty of idiots on the road. But if you're in a big hurry in Isaan, you've come to the wrong place anyway.

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    Yes, main problem is the other road users. Always look on them as drunken psychopaths who should be exterminated on sight (tbh they often are), preferably with napalm, and you'll be fine. The roads themselves are reasonably good quality but one big difference is that most of them have no hard shoulder, when an 18-wheel wagon driven by a yaa ice-crazed ex buffalo-rapist suddenly appears behind you you'd better have your escape route already planned

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    The other confusing thing to me is the time people describe to travel only a few km,
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    am confused as the rural area is always described with a very light population density
    Don't know who's been feeding you this stuff but it's mostly untrue. Unless you live waaay out in the wilds (and Isaan is not way out in the wilds, for the most part) travel times are pretty much the same as they are back home. As for population density, sometimes every square inch of Thailand seems to be populated, you can climb a mountain in the middle of the jungle in the far northeast with not a light to be seen for 100 miles in every direction and when you get to the top there'll be 30 people with a Moo Katah set, whiskeysodanam, guitars, and a karaoke machine already there.

    Don't sweat it. like the Thais say, "you're thinking too much".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    Sorry I meant to travel via scooter, people do this right?
    Indeed they do..


    http://teakdoor.com/thailands-travel...ly-600kms.html (Pak Chong - Surin and back - A leisurely 600km's)

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    Awesome post! You commented on the legality of doing it, was that serious or sarcasm? Where I am from there are some highways that do indeed have minimum limitations on the power or speeds the vehicles are capable of. Getting on these roads with an underpowered vehicle can get you into trouble, even impounding the scooter. Excellent thread though, thank you. It looked painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    some highways that do indeed have minimum limitations on the power or speeds
    Same here- you can't take a Honda wave on a tollway.
    We have running water, flush toilets and electricity here.
    Relax a bit, and eat the bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Same here- you can't take a Honda wave on a tollway.
    Of which there are none in Isaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    You commented on the legality of doing it, was that serious or sarcasm?
    It's all perfectly legal...just feels illegal, kind of like you're selling your arse on a street corner..

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    I eat everything already, no worries in the food department. The price of electricity is bothersome in relation to all the other costs of living, but I am not that poor.

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    ^ Tried Larb Dib yet, Josh?..an Issan delicacy..

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    Pertinent question regarding danger is how experienced are you riding motor bikes? If you are a novice best to putt around locally until you have gained some experience.

    Even if you are experienced, the Thais have adopted a quaint but primitive custom. Driving on the left side of the road. Common to see folks from developed nations having head on collisions with large trucks, buses, and speeding cars. This is not a good thing for the bike rider. Really smarts.
    Last edited by Norton; 04-01-2011 at 01:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan View Post
    Sorry I meant to travel via scooter, people do this right?
    16,000km on a Fino since Nov 2009; last week/Xmas a 600km trip, month before 900 from Sa Kaeo-Chanthaburi-Rayong return. With stops for gas, traffic hold-ups in towns etc we average 60km/h overall, stop when we feel like it - need gas every 120km anyway. No hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan View Post
    Sorry I meant to travel via scooter, people do this right?
    You need to be careful, jealous Thai's hide in the bushes and shoot farangs on scoots.

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    No problem so long as you dont have an accident
    Just remember if you are bleeding to death at the the side of a thai road that is exactly what will happen
    Life here is pretty valueless and we all sign up to that when we arrive
    Just be very careful

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    Quote Originally Posted by somtamslap View Post
    ^ Tried Larb Dib yet, Josh?..an Issan delicacy..
    A couple times a month, cooked is way too dry for me. My wife is Lao, it was one of the first dishes I learned to make. I am not a happy camper when we are out of the kao kua. 10 years together, the only dish I stopped after one bite was the samong moo and that was a psychological thing for me. Wasn't my wife's cooking it was at a wedding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Pertinent question regarding danger is how experienced are you riding motor bikes? If you are a novice best to putt around locally until you have gained some experience.
    I've rode since college days, but to be honest what I have seen in BKK scares the hell outta me especially if the roads are wet.
    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post
    16,000km on a Fino since Nov 2009; last week/Xmas a 600km trip, month before 900 from Sa Kaeo-Chanthaburi-Rayong return. With stops for gas, traffic hold-ups in towns etc we average 60km/h overall, stop when we feel like it - need gas every 120km anyway. No hurry.
    You've gotta be retired to have that much time on your hands! The Wave, The Click, The Fino... in the under 200cc class what tends to be the most reliable? I am not at all familiar with the scooter offerings as we don't have many small engines in these parts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    You need to be careful, jealous Thai's hide in the bushes and shoot farangs on scoots.
    Leave their wife alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    I've rode since college days, but to be honest what I have seen in BKK scares the hell outta me especially if the roads are wet.
    I have edited above as warning for Yanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genghis61 View Post

    16,000km on a Fino since Nov 2009; last week/Xmas a 600km trip, month before 900 from Sa Kaeo-Chanthaburi-Rayong return. With stops for gas, traffic hold-ups in towns etc we average 60km/h overall, stop when we feel like it - need gas every 120km anyway. No hurry.

    Love to join you for a trip one day. I've also put in some miles on a scooter and not a problem just cruising along at 60-70 klm.

    Slower the ride more one sees and that's my reason for travelling.

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    One thing that really threw me when I started riding a bike on the road here was elephants at nighttime. I think that no matter how cautious you are Western riding experience does not prepare you a couple of elephants walking in the middle of the road at midnight.

    BTW, if any mahouts are reading this, sticking a couple of CD's on the elephant's arse does not help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan
    in the under 200cc class what tends to be the most reliable?
    Honda Wave, easily. Not the most comfortable for long rides though.

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    On the highway beware of on coming traffic over taking, twice I've been driven off the road by trucks over taking flashing their lights at you to get out their way. Over here the rule is the bigger the vehicle the more right of way they have. Also off the highway when drive through small villages and populated areas drive at 40khm because if the psycho drivers don't get you the random pot holes and dogs running out in front of you will.

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    finos are pretty comfortable for long journeys.

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