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    ^^ that's her Thank you for that

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    I've seen slabs of raw meat (pork usually) as offerings in Thai & Cambo temples. What do they do with the raw meat afterwards? Throw away, give to dogs, etc?

    Here in PI, the Christian majority sometimes give offerings to the church, but it's usually fruits or a basket with groceries or envelop with $$. Sometimes (especially after a calamity), my local church asks for donations in terms of canned goods or noodles, to be given to those affected by the typhoon or earthquake.

    At my office, when someone's relative has died (or is in hospital & the bills are increasing), it's common to "pass the hat" (actually it's an envelop) and donate $$. Nothing wrong with that - IMO it's a good custom - helping out your friend, colleague or neighbor.

    I've been a recipient of that "envelop" when my dad passed some years ago, and in turn, donate when the envelop is passed to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Common misconception, Buddhism does not believe in re incantation to this world.

    People out this way, although allegedly Buddhist, believe in nature spirits, ghosts, magic trees, some trees can even speak , magic spells etc.

    Ghosts used to walk up and down the street at night, dogs would bark and soi dogs [dingos can't bark] would howl, less ghosts now that we have electricity and street lights.

    Jim
    As Hick says in the post after this one of yours, its (the religion?) called animalist where they believe everything living has a spirit.
    As for dogs barking and soi dogs howling, our dogs howl something awful and if it is at a time different from normal the MIL gets quite concerned as she believes they (the dogs) are seeing the dead people. I actually enjoy hearing them howl (not at 3am mind) as they get quite a chorus going, we have 4 dogs.

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    Animist, or Animism......as in they are animated by a spirit.

    Not animalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Buddhism does not believe in re incantation to this world.
    Fact, though, is that monks perform incantations every day.

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    ^...*tsk*...

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    ^Gums bleeding again?
    Go see a periodontist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    As Hick says in the post after this one of yours, its (the religion?) called animalist


    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Animist, or Animism......as in they are animated by a spirit.

    Not animalist.

    I stand corrected (see below).


    Animism. Animism (from Latin anima, "breath, spirit, life") is the religious belief that objects, places and creatures all possess a distinct spiritual essence.

    Historical evidence shows that Thais believed in Hinduism and animism. Today, Thai society portrays the harmony combination of three belief systems: Animism, Hinduism, and Buddhism. Animism is a word derived from Latin animus or 'soul'.

    Animism commonly refers to a religious belief that souls or spirits exist in non-human entities such as animals, plants, natural phenomena, geographic features and everyday objects (sometimes even manufactured articles), as well as in humans.





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    Quote"I've been a recipient of that "envelop" when my dad passed some years ago, and in turn, donate when the envelop is passed to me."

    Katie, interesting the same occurs in villages in Thailand, kind of an unofficial support system. Ref the meat, thats just odd. You'll have seen the spirit houses with the fruit etc and that i get as you can eat it afterwards, meat tho, ummm.

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    I don't believe you're supposed to eat the fruit (or drink the fanta) afterwards. It's meant to dissipate (read: spoil), thereby returning to "the source," if you will.

    If you won't - that's cool too.

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    Umm i'd best speak to Mrs Toot she's always eating the fruit after its been out for a day or so, may explain all the bad luck and accidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    thereby returning to "the source,
    Are you a jeff multi-nic?

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    If I am, shoot me dead


    now



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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    You'll have seen the spirit houses with the fruit etc and that i get as you can eat it afterwards.
    Umm...yeah, you're definitely doing that wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Umm i'd best speak to Mrs Toot she's always eating the fruit after its been out for a day or so, may explain all the bad luck and accidents.

    I'm confused now.

    I had read....or a monk said(?) somewhere about not ingesting offerings as a belief is that the spirits receive them thru evaporation/dissipation, etc.

    Now, wife's saying: "yea, many do eat the fruit after a day or two,...but NOT ME!" <sum horror that I'd suggest she would>
    "it's not tasty enough!"


    Whatevs

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    Edit: I'm confused fairly often.

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    And, thinking about it, it might be wiser not to mention it to anyone...

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    Righto, two day old spirit house fruit off the menu. Millions of Thais who know a thing or two about spirits can't be wrong. Told the Mrs to also buy a lottery ticket with the number of the first car she sees tomorrow, well when the lottery opens next time.

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    ^ You're making this up as you go along, aren't you?

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    Sometimes Thailand is stranger than fiction,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ You're making this up as you go along, aren't you?
    Seems as some of the first page and all of the second is of this nature, perpetuated by the same handful of old souls that haven't a clue.

    Yet, we muddle through.

    A simple a well-intended thread that is occupied by that usual crowd.

    Oh, well.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Sometimes Thailand is stronger than fiction
    ...ftfy...

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    ^^You very much are part of the usual crowd, with very much the usual shit.

    foj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Quote"I've been a recipient of that "envelop" when my dad passed some years ago, and in turn, donate when the envelop is passed to me."

    Katie, interesting the same occurs in villages in Thailand, kind of an unofficial support system. Ref the meat, thats just odd. You'll have seen the spirit houses with the fruit etc and that i get as you can eat it afterwards, meat tho, ummm.
    Current local rate is B100 per household whenever there is a death in the village. The unexpected deaths are the worst and the social gathering helps a lot. Nobody would notice the odd monkey nicking fruit from the spirit house...

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