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    Protesting farmers leave Nakhon Ratchasima on foot to Bangkok

    Protesting farmers leave Nakhon Ratchasima on foot to Bangkok



    Nakhon Ratchasima - Over 200 farmers left this northeastern province on foot heading to Bangkok to highlight their demand for the government to tackle their debt.

    The farmers led by Prapas Khoksungnoen, president of the Northeastern People Network, gathered in front of the Suranee Statue, at 10 am and began the journey at 11 am.

    Prapas said the farmers planned to walk to Government House and camp there to pressure the government to draft a contract tht the administration would absolve the farmers' debt.

    Prapas accused the Surayud administration of ignoring the plight of farmers while focusing on political issues.

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    Is that the debt that Taksin gave to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Is that the debt that Taksin gave to them?
    Exactly.
    No-one forced them to have a loan and now they don't want to pay it back.

    I have lost count of the number of times these 'farmers' have had their loans re-negotiated
    Last edited by Thetyim; 07-01-2007 at 05:46 PM.

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    Cupid stunts!

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    I can't see anything wrong,, Damn he got them to vote for him, Didn't he??

    That will teach em to listen to and believe a politician.. 555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Cupid stunts!
    Sorry.
    I have edited my spelling mistake now.
    Gosh, some teachers are a bit fussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Cupid stunts!
    Sorry.
    I have edited my spelling mistake now.
    Gosh, some teachers are a bit fussy
    Eh?

    I was talking about the farmers.

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    Wonder why they are walking when all of them have new jeeps bought with the farmers loan.

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    ^ good point, they could have driven there for the day and done their protest and then go back and start working again to earn money to pay off their loans, instead they will probably spend months in Bangkok poncing money off of their families so they can get pissed every night while protesting about the money they borrowed and now have to pay back, actually I think I will join them, I bought my last digital camera on one of those aeon credit card thingys and have a payment still to go, right I am off to camp outside Lotus till they cancel my debt, hmmm, 1,300baht, naaa, I dont think I will bother, it's easier to just pay it and not waste my life in their car park

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    ^
    You might think differently if you had 200.000 debts and made 150 on a good day, and the promised improvements to farmers' situations haven't arrived, instead pay for your products is as lousy as ever while the city boys reek in the rewards of their corrupt gov building projects etc.

    Darn, the farmers should have been given a free calculator with the loans, and instructions to use it.

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    I mean, misspending aside, farmers don't have a lobby, and have been in this position for ages, there is a tradition of these marches from well before anyone knew who Taksin was.

    What are minimum wages in most industries?
    Well, it's still 80-100 bt/day around where I live for farmers, that's about half the official min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    You might think differently if you had 200.000 debts and made 150 on a good day, and the promised improvements to farmers' situations haven't arrived, instead pay for your products is as lousy as ever while the city boys reek in the rewards of their corrupt gov building projects etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    I mean, misspending aside, farmers don't have a lobby, and have been in this position for ages, there is a tradition of these marches from well before anyone knew who Taksin was.

    What are minimum wages in most industries?
    Well, it's still 80-100 bt/day around where I live for farmers, that's about half the official min.
    While I have sympathy with the farmers being shafted on prices, in my own experiance the majority of the loans they recive are'nt used for what they are supposed to be used for but generaly spent on a new pick-up ect. I know many people who have taken loans our without any intention of ever paying them back.

    I could'nt get someone for 80-100 bhat a day here possibly 150-200, which is why most of the farm labour here is trucked in during harvest season.
    I have more than the average number of arm and legs

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    An interesting observation from the orchards of the South East.

    I'm no expert and do not know a slew of farmers to begin with. Those that seem to be doing OK all drive old beat-up trucks as they're main mode of transportation. The inlaws are prime examples, 4 trucks none newer than 2001, all in decent running condition, look like shit but they are working trucks. Each of these four can lay their hands on upwards of 100K cash in five minutes. No telling what's in the bank.

    On the other hand I've looked at 3 different properties where "The Bank Wants thier money", like now. In each case the owner/debtor has a new model pick-up.

    It seems to be a matter of prioritizing the needs of survival. One of my friends says borrowing the first million just sets them up to borrow more and then Kaplooooye, not enough income to feed the debt machine.

    Going to be a lot of newer model pick-ups available if the season is unusually dry as is forcast due to El Nino.

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    Fcuking cnuts.

    Instead of actually trying "work" for once in their lives, they decide to go off on a fcuking rambling holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Instead of actually trying "work" for once in their lives,
    Ever did a day's work in a ricefield boy?
    I suggest you try, for 100bt/day, before you run your mouth again!

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    ^ bollocks.

    I have zero sympathy for the idle bastards. The pay is irrelevant. It might be 500 a day, but most of them would still rather sit around and get pissed all day instead.

    Again and again, they think they have a "right" to be bailed out of their own fcuking problems with taxpayers money.

    Hopefully when they get to Bangkok and set up camp, they'll all be arrested for obstructing the traffic or disturbing the peace or something, then marched back to where they came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    I have zero sympathy for the idle bastards.
    Maybe you could have a closer look how much agricultural products and farmers are subsidised by tax-money in your own country, and lobby to take that away from the "idle bastards" back home?

    Ignorant twat.

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    I only ever knew one farmer in the UK, poor bastard that he was, I used to rent some land off of him, never would give me a reciept though, anyway this guy was so poor he couldn't even afford to heat his swimming pool, still it was nice to use in the summer, he managed to scrape enough cash together each couple of years to get the latest range rover, lucky bstard...........

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    Stroll, Gerbil you are both generalising.

    Where I live now the people work damn hard for their money and deserve a bit of extra help.
    Where I used to live in central thailand the vast majority would borrow as much money as possible with no intention of paying it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    I have zero sympathy for the idle bastards.
    Maybe you could have a closer look how much agricultural products and farmers are subsidised by tax-money in your own country, and lobby to take that away from the "idle bastards" back home?

    Ignorant twat.

    I dont give a fcuk about tax money paid to farmers back home (bastard coated bastards with a bastard filling), I dont pay any tax money there. I fcuking pay it here, so yes it is my money that these wankers want to be used to bail them out.............. AGAIN!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Stroll, Gerbil you are both generalising.
    You are right. I was getting worked up about calling farmers "lazy bastards", they certainly aren't where I live.
    Wouldn't want to swap with 'em - too much hard work with little return.

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    ^ Ok, I'll grant you there are exceptions to the rule and there are some hard workers out there.

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    And I don't really have a problem saying that many mismanage and misuse the loans, it's pretty common where I live, but the reasons vary, mostly lack of financial foresight combined with a very narrow profit margin for their products.
    Yeah, and there are those who take advantage, as one usually gets with any state-sponsored assistance.

    Sorry I had a pop at you earlier.

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    According to Ms. AC the march was not actually farmers protesting farm loan debt but ordinary people protesting their excessive installment debt from firms such as Aeon, Easy Buy, etc. This from Ms. AC's sister who works for GE Finance....

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    If this is so, on arrival in Bangkok, a gov-sponsored lecture on how to read a contract from start to finish before signing and handing out free calculators with instructions on how to use them might be of assistance?

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