New Ranger

**Fondles** · 20-07-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

^

He'll be able to get an Everest in Australia, but he'll have to pay for it if it's not available through regular channels.

He will also be spending some decent coin having a heater/demister system fitted to it as the Thai domestic models do not come with this feature.

**Bettyboo** · 20-07-2012, 04:05 PM

Anybody seen a new Focus at a Ford showroom yet?

**Fondles** · 20-07-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Anybody seen a new Focus at a Ford showroom yet?

Not at a showroom but we have a few Thai domestic model's at our disposal for R@D. what did you want to know ?

**Bettyboo** · 20-07-2012, 08:43 PM

^ Not much, just noticed that the Ford Thailand website has changed to include the New Focus, so presumed they should be having models in the showroom anytime soon. For me, they're a bit too similar in size to the City to pay 200k or 300k more, but if a 1.6 diesel comes out next year, and I haven't changed to the Ranger, then it would be a good car; better than the City in every way, good safety levels and not too much more; the extra money you spend to buy it would be saved in fuel within 3 years or so (depending on your mileage).

I'd be interested in looking at one. I want to change the car really; the City is not great in a crash! I waited for the new Civic, but it's not very good, imo; the New Ranger is good, I'd like a Wildtrak, but haven't even been able to order one, so I'll wait and see if anything else pops up. Also, the missus would probably be happier in a smaller vehicle like a Focus, but that's not the be all and end all...

**Mr Earl** · 21-07-2012, 03:02 PM

^ You're nuts BB! To save 300k baht in fuel over 3 years you'd need to drive over 100k kms a year.

I seem to recall you mention you don't drive around that much.

And as far as crashing the car goes; don't!

If you really want a safer car shop around for a nice used Volvo 740, and they about the same mileage as the new pickup trucks.

**Bettyboo** · 21-07-2012, 03:31 PM

^ One area I don't like about the City is the lack of side impact bars and general crash protection; a tuktuk could probably kill me if it hit me right - that was a major motivation towards the Ranger in the first place.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^ You're nuts BB! To save 300k baht in fuel over 3 years you'd need to drive over 100k kms a year.

The Honda City was 650k. I reckon the 1.6D Focus will be about 850k - that's 200k. I reckon I'll save about 3k per month; 200/3/12 = 6, only 6 years to get me money back then...

The Ford Focus 2.0 Diesel is a really good car, but at 1.1 million, it's just not worth the money - you can get better for not much more. But, for 800k, the Ranger Hi-rider does seem to be just about the best value out there. If the Focus 1.6D is a good price then it really should become a top seller... Ford are jumping all over the likes of Honda in 2012/2013...

**FailSafe** · 21-07-2012, 03:34 PM

Make a new thread for the next golf cart you're considering (but won't buy), BB- this is the Ranger thread.

**Bettyboo** · 21-07-2012, 03:45 PM

^ I'll probably pick up a new 2.2 Wildtrak a few days before you get your deposit back on the 3.2...

**FailSafe** · 21-07-2012, 04:16 PM

^

I'll take that bet- you'll be driving your City until rust is the only thing holding it together.

**Fondles** · 21-07-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ One area I don't like about the City is the lack of side impact bars and general crash protection; a tuktuk could probably kill me if it hit me right - that was a major motivation towards the Ranger in the first place.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^ You're nuts BB! To save 300k baht in fuel over 3 years you'd need to drive over 100k kms a year.

The Honda City was 650k. I reckon the 1.6D Focus will be about 850k - that's 200k. I reckon I'll save about 3k per month; 200/3/12 = 6, only 6 years to get me money back then...

1.6D Focus does about 7lt/100km.

**Thetyim** · 21-07-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Fondles

1.6D Focus does about 7lt/100km.

3.7L/100km extra urban according to UK government figures

**Fondles** · 21-07-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by Fondles

1.6D Focus does about 7lt/100km.

3.7L/100km extra urban according to UK government figures

And realistically how much extra urban driving will happen here in Thailand, better to base projected fuel consumption savings on the worse figure I reckon which is just shy of 7lt/100km.

**Bettyboo** · 21-07-2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I'll take that bet- you'll be driving your City until rust is the only thing holding it together.

Highly possible, but I'm an impulse buyer - I've already tried at 2 dealers (a few months back) but they wouldn't take my order! I may try again when I start seeing the nice ORANGE 2.2 wildtraks being driven locally...

Originally Posted by Fondles

1.6D Focus does about 7lt/100km.

What's that in proper money? Less than 15kpl? I very much doubt that, my City is doing 14.5kpl on a mixed city/motorway schedule - The Focus should be closer to double that.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

3.7L/100km

28kpl or so - I have no actual knowledge (of anything???), but this sounds much more like what I'd expect. I mean the 2.2D Ranger comes out of the tests at 15kpl, the Focus must do a lot better than that!

**Fondles** · 22-07-2012, 05:06 AM

Urban - 16.14km/litre
Extra Urban - 24.99km/litre
Average - 20.85km/litre

**9999** · 22-07-2012, 02:13 PM

Was this I hear the Thai govt. giving 100K to every first car buyer this year? true??

**Bettyboo** · 22-07-2012, 02:27 PM

^ yep, & everyone who bought a car 1 day before or more lost 100k on their second hand value... Helps nobody except the car companies and their corrupt government 'friends'...

Originally Posted by Fondles

Urban - 16.14km/litre Extra Urban - 24.99km/litre Average - 20.85km/litre

I expected a lot better than that...

**9999** · 22-07-2012, 02:51 PM

^ Sounds like the kind of irrational political crowd pleaser Julia Gillard would pull.

**Bettyboo** · 22-07-2012, 03:02 PM

^ one of the reasons I got the Honda City was the high resale value. The Honda City is exactly the kind of cheap City car that comes under the umbrella of the 100k back 'idea'; so, I was not best pleased when I was offered far less than I expected when I thought about selling/trading-in my 18 month old vehicle - everyone offered exactly 100k less than I expected... Now, they were obviously trying it on, but the fact remains that a new 650k Honda City with 100k back is worth, to many, 550k, hence the resale value dropping overnight - why should somebody pay 550k (the prelegislation value) for an 18 month old car when they can buy a new one for that money... Thus, I was offered 450-470k.

The government just wanted to sell more cars. If they wanted to help families in certain social classes they can do a far better job than offering taxpayers money to car companies (with a cut for themselves)...

**Jesus Jones** · 22-07-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Anybody seen a new Focus at a Ford showroom yet?

Popped into a new Ford dealer that's just opened on Kalapapruke Rd, off Phetkaseam road to ask about the ranger 3.2. They are saying new orders next year with no promise off a specific month. If you know where 'There Circle is it's in the direction of Siam University.

Looked at the brochure for the Focus as my wife is now considering the diesel focus, but upon browsing, it appears the diesel is no longer available. Is this true?

**Bettyboo** · 22-07-2012, 03:05 PM

^ I got told that they are coming to Thailand next year, in 1.6 form, I presume the 2.0D too, but I didn't ask about that because I reckon a Prius Hybrid is a better option for my purposes at a similar price.

**AUSSIE EXPAT** · 22-07-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon a Prius Hybrid is a better option for my purposes

Ohh...noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**larvidchr** · 22-07-2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by AUSSIE EXPAT

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon a Prius Hybrid is a better option for my purposes

Ohh...noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...

**FailSafe** · 22-07-2012, 03:36 PM

BB just keeps making this thread gayer and gayer.

A friggin' Prius...

**Fondles** · 22-07-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ yep, & everyone who bought a car 1 day before or more lost 100k on their second hand value... Helps nobody except the car companies and their corrupt government 'friends'...

Originally Posted by Fondles

Urban - 16.14km/litre Extra Urban - 24.99km/litre Average - 20.85km/litre

I expected a lot better than that...

Why the sad face, its only gunna take 12 year to recoup the invested rather than 6

**9999** · 22-07-2012, 05:02 PM

So can we put the 100K on pick-ups? If so, I'm ordering one of those 2.2 orange WT's with a deposit and keep it on back order. That's what my Mrs. wants to do on a Mazda 2 'Elegance', as a second car coz she's too pissweak to drive the truck. Apparently you just need to put down a deposit / approve finance this year. I'd rather be a 1 car / 1 motosi family, keepin it green and all ya know.

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