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| Petchabun Last Online: Today 09:35 PM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nonthaburi
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| Green book for motorbike (I'm confused) Ok, my situation... I'm looking at buying a second hand motorbike to ride around Bkk. One bike that I'm looking at is an 1100 Dragstar. Current farang owner rides the bike with a red number plate (local area only). He's got a mate that works at the registration office who can register the bike for 35000 baht. He'll use an old book from a bike that's no longer in use and replace the ID numbers with the ID numbers of the 1100 Dragstar that I'm interested in. My question is : Is this 100% legal, and if I want to re-sell the bike in the future am I going to come across any hurdles? Another bike that I'm looking at is a 400 Honda Steed. Farang owner says it comes with invoice and white numberplate(?). Tax is paid but it doesn't come with a green book. It was imported in 2004 and at first had a red plate which was later replaced with the afforementioned white plate. Owner says the bike's been all over Thailand and there's never been any problems with the bike not having a green book, ie it's fully legal. Is this correct??? If anyone on here has any current info or can answer some of my questions I'd appreciate it. I've tried to do some research on the web but can't actually get my head around this registration thing. Cheers. |
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| Phuket Last Online: 02-11-2009 07:39 PM Join Date: Feb 2009
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| Both are illegal. The 1st one is what many older bikes are like in Thailand. Not 100% legal BUT as long as its in the system at the DMV then you are unlikely to have a problem (only buy it when the green book has been done and in your name) they will grind off the frame number (make sure its a frame number relevant to the bike ie dragster not steed) and replace then they will do an engine number change at the DMV. Its this that can highlight a dodgy book. many owners then get a new book the next year ( limited mention of engine change in new book) Hope this helps Allan |
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| sociialist Last Online: Today 08:09 PM Join Date: Aug 2008
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| the way thailand is going with regards to future crackdowns on such things, save yourself the future possibility of a big headache. Buy legal, then no worries hanging over you. I was contemplating doing the same a few months back, followed my head instead of my heart and decided to go for the legal option. 2nd night and I'm done at a road block next to Mochit without a licence, long story short, piece of shit cop wanted my bike, after 3 hours of going through everything he could about me and bike he had to settle for only the licence issue, still trying to get me to fuk off and leave the bike without any ticket/documents/reciept, refusing to give so much as his name while confiscating it to the police station to keep it. Piece of shit. Go legal. |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 08:40 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines
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| Agree with all texts above. I've been there with my 1958 Triumph. Forget all these fabricating assholes and go legal to start with - if you don't, you may slide for a bit, but it will eventually come back and bite you in the ass, either when you have an accident, or try to sell it, or get stopped by that overeager cop. |
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| Petchabun Last Online: Today 09:35 PM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nonthaburi
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| I'm not considering anything, only looking for info, which is why I'm asking the questions here. I've never owned a vehicle, car or bike, in thailand before and am not aware of the do's and dont's. Any advise on where to find fully legal choppers in and around Bangkok? What to look out for when dealing with private sellers who claim their bikes are fully registered? |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 04:45 PM Join Date: Jan 2009
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| Is it really worth risking your freedom and your life for a silly over sized motorcycle? Of course it's illegal and the first time you have an accident or meet the "wrong" cop you can be sitting in a Thai jail while they figure it out at their leisure. An 1100 CC bike in Bangkok would fit your needs about as well as a 200 kilo woman. |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 08:40 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines
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| While there may be some disagreement, I might add that of all of the places around the world in which I have had bikes, Bangkok is one of the worst to drive in. Hot as hell, LONG traffic lights while you sit there pouring sweat surrounding by little rice rockets spewing exhaust fumes over you, fast and dangerous traffic - and the list goes on. Manila is almost as bad, primarily because the drivers are worse than in Thailand, and the roads SUCK. I'm down in the province here, as I was in Thailand, where the roads are pretty empty and you can actually occasionally enjoy a ride. I guarantee you won't enjoy riding in Bangkok. And, there is always the problem, especially if you have an unusual (to Thais) bike, of where to safely park it once you get where you are going. I would think hard about this. Just an opinion. |
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| Thailand Travel Forum | Gee what a bunch of scared little girls, Did the false number plate thing and the bike hit and put two Thais in Hospital. Coppers didnt give a hoot it wasnt the right number plate. I also bought a second hand book and just had the number changed in the book, miss placed the book. Then got the missus to apply for a new book Easy. You aint going to go to jail, I know of some really serous accident where people have died on un plated bikes and no recourse from the police. But I would also recomend you bought a bike with a book to start with as its just one less thing to worry about
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| sociialist Last Online: Today 08:09 PM Join Date: Aug 2008
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| different cops have different morals here. i've been both tapped on the shoulder and waved on, and dragged to police station to pay 1000b 'fine' for the same offence. remember the squads going around after illegal bikes only six months ago, even hit Udon one weekend if I remember correctly. Bikes taken and 'fees' in the tens of thousands to release them. Just go legal. |
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| Saraburi Last Online: 19-03-2010 10:18 AM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Not where I want to be
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| Best advice I have recieved on this subject was from the english guy who works at TP motorcycles - about 1.5km up the Rd from Siam Paragon. Worth having a talk to him and have a look at what they have up for sale - may not be as cheap but the paper work will be legit. Quote:
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