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Bung · 30-10-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigger

Yes its the super samie thingy I went to the Khon kaen office and paid mine before getting pulled, its to show your bike is in Thailand legally and you have paid the tax on it, Once you have done it they cant take your bike. So really other than a small fine for no plate the chance of lossing your bike are next to zero. I know hundreds of bike riders in Thailand and do you think any of them have lost a bike and even more amazing is they them selfs dont know anyone that has lost there bike.

What's this about? First I have heard of it. I'm thinking of moving to Chiang Mai and would need something more than an invoice to ride up there. Do you just pay some tax but still no plate? I should probably just get the book here in Phetchabun as the mrs knows someone in the licensing center here.

Rigger · 30-10-2009, 01:49 PM

Bung
all you need is photos of your bike both sides, You need a paper stensil of the engine and frame number, and your import pappers. In Khon kaen the office wouldnt deal with anyone except Anan and the HD shop, I guess they had some deal worked out.
But in Udon you could take you paper work straight to the rego place and pay 10 to 20k depending on make and model. This also makes it easier to get a book,

They had a specail deal going that ended on the 25th of Aug but you should still be able to do something it will just take a bit longer I guess

Marmite the Dog · 30-10-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelmate

Tiger.

Very funny...

Bung · 30-10-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigger

Bung all you need is photos of your bike both sides, You need a paper stensil of the engine and frame number, and your import pappers. In Khon kaen the office wouldnt deal with anyone except Anan and the HD shop, I guess they had some deal worked out. But in Udon you could take you paper work straight to the rego place and pay 10 to 20k depending on make and model. This also makes it easier to get a book, They had a specail deal going that ended on the 25th of Aug but you should still be able to do something it will just take a bit longer I guess __________________ Work to ride & ride to work.

Cool. I'll pop into the licensing centre and ask. Seems pretty easy to do things around here compared to other areas. Be good to secure it if I end up out of here.

INTJ · 02-11-2009, 07:22 PM

I think paying money direct to the DMV only means that page 18 of the green book will show appropriate duties have been paid - ie. the spare parts have been re-assembled onto a complete machine. If my memory serves me correctly, this is 3% of the "value" of the bike. Once this tax has been paid and recorded, the BiB cannot seize the machine. As far as I'm aware paying this "tax" has nothing to do with getting a green book and number plates. More like a quick money spinner.

Cheers

Rigger · 02-11-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by INTJ

As far as I'm aware paying this "tax" has nothing to do with getting a green book and number plates. More like a quick money spinner.

I would have guessed that the dutys would have to be paid before you got a book, When I did my bikes which only had the import papper I asked if I had to do it on my plated bike and they told me if it has a book you dont need to do it.

INTJ · 02-11-2009, 10:21 PM

There was an issue in Phuket (and maybe still is) where if a registered bike does not have the details of the duty being paid on page 18 of the book they will transfer the title. As this information is not automatically transferred into a new book (if the old one is lost/damaged/full), many older bikes did not have these details recorded, even though the taxes *may* have been paid. As I understand it, the 3% had to be paid in these cases as well, as the bike was deemed illegal even though it had a correct green book.

The whole bike registration thing is a nightmare. I have quite a bit of experience, and would recommend buying a bike that is already plated and can be transferred at DMV.

I would also steer clear of anything with a Prachinburi plate. It screams restamp.

Cheers

loz944 · 06-11-2009, 03:37 PM

Well when i got my bike in march it had been of the road for about 5 years

i looked on the forums and read many nightmare stories of how hard it is and after x years its not in the system i had tp motorcycles rip of bunch of cunts tell me it will cost 50 k to regester coz not in Bkk province ( and by the way there paper work is far from ligit as a friend of mine found out when he paid through the nose for a 250 scooter which also ended up having bent forks and scotch brite as an air filter after coming from them for a service ). lol rant over .

any ways just this week my gf took the papers to the office in catuchat spent an hour doing paperwork

the guys of my local big bike shop rode bike there yesterday

got new plate engine number change and new book all done and dusted insurance included 1800 bht

my advice is get the gf to go dont show your ugly farang mug and all is easy

Rigger · 06-11-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by loz944

tp motorcycles rip of bunch of cunts

Yep these guys nearly killed me after maxing my bike at top speed, I pulled up at my mates place, and he said you got a oil leak, checked the bike and the whole rear tire was coated with oil from a pinched oil filter that had let go.

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Originally Posted by loz944

got new plate engine number change and new book all done and dusted insurance included 1800 bht

So did he have a old sabre book ? or did you already buy it, as thats the cheapest I have heard of anyone getting it done.
Congrats lucky man

loz944 · 08-11-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigger

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Originally Posted by loz944

tp motorcycles rip of bunch of cunts

Yep these guys nearly killed me after maxing my bike at top speed, I pulled up at my mates place, and he said you got a oil leak, checked the bike and the whole rear tire was coated with oil from a pinched oil filter that had let go.

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Originally Posted by loz944

got new plate engine number change and new book all done and dusted insurance included 1800 bht

So did he have a old sabre book ? or did you already buy it, as thats the cheapest I have heard of anyone getting it done.
Congrats lucky man

I already had a green book but because the bike was not on the road for over 5 years and i changed engine we had to get a new book but that was all in the 1800 bht

Travelmate · 07-11-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by loz944

got new plate engine number change and new book all done and dusted insurance included 1800 bht

Too cheap to be true.
But nonetheless well done!

The Muffinman · 08-11-2009, 10:04 AM

An update on my situation and some more questions.

I've agreed to buy a 400 Dragster this week, imported parts and assembled in Bangkok, comes only with invoice.

Before some of you start jumping down my throat for ignoring your advice to go legal let me explain the situation.

I plan on making the bike fully legal (if I can?) before I take it out on the road. If that's not possible I will sell the bike on to my brother in law (Thai) who will just ride it unregistered.

My question to any of you who have imported these kinds of bikes is : what is the procedure to get an imported bike into the system? Where do I start and what steps do I take?
I'm aware that there's plenty of dodgy Somchais out there who can get me a grey book for the bike, but I'm not prepared to go down that route.
Also, how much would I be expected to pay for everything if I were to manage to get the bike fully legal?

Any helpfull advice will be greatly appreciated.

Marmite the Dog · 08-11-2009, 10:34 AM

^ The shop who imported & built it should be able to do the paperwork for you as it is their responsibility.

Rigger · 08-11-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by INTJ

I think paying money direct to the DMV only means that page 18 of the green book will show appropriate duties have been paid

They give you a sticker that you stick under your seat to say you have paid the duty.

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Originally Posted by INTJ

There was an issue in Phuket (and maybe still is) where if a registered bike does not have the details of the duty being paid on page 18 of the book they will transfer the title

PHUKET are the hardest on bike regos in Thailand,

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Originally Posted by The Muffinman

how much would I be expected to pay for everything if I were to manage to get the bike fully legal?

I think if you do it legaly and do all the work yourself probably between 40k to 50k. I would pay the extra money and get the shop to do it as it is much less hassle and if they are conected you wont have to leave your bike in bangkok of a week

The Muffinman · 08-11-2009, 11:27 AM

Ok, but if I get the shop to do it, won't they just get me a recycled tabien anyway?

I'd like to have a 100% legal book, where to go for that?

Rigger · 08-11-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Muffinman

Ok, but if I get the shop to do it, won't they just get me a recycled tabien anyway? I'd like to have a 100% legal book, where to go for that?

No not if you ask them for a real book

30-10-2009, 01:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rigger Thailand Forum Last Online: Yesterday 01:35 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nongbualamphu/Khon Kaen Posts: 4,984	Bung all you need is photos of your bike both sides, You need a paper stensil of the engine and frame number, and your import pappers. In Khon kaen the office wouldnt deal with anyone except Anan and the HD shop, I guess they had some deal worked out. But in Udon you could take you paper work straight to the rego place and pay 10 to 20k depending on make and model. This also makes it easier to get a book, They had a specail deal going that ended on the 25th of Aug but you should still be able to do something it will just take a bit longer I guess __________________ Work to ride & ride to work.

06-11-2009, 03:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
loz944 Patong Beach Last Online: 20-11-2009 03:28 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangbuathong Posts: 27	Well when i got my bike in march it had been of the road for about 5 years i looked on the forums and read many nightmare stories of how hard it is and after x years its not in the system i had tp motorcycles rip of bunch of cunts tell me it will cost 50 k to regester coz not in Bkk province ( and by the way there paper work is far from ligit as a friend of mine found out when he paid through the nose for a 250 scooter which also ended up having bent forks and scotch brite as an air filter after coming from them for a service ). lol rant over . any ways just this week my gf took the papers to the office in catuchat spent an hour doing paperwork the guys of my local big bike shop rode bike there yesterday got new plate engine number change and new book all done and dusted insurance included 1800 bht my advice is get the gf to go dont show your ugly farang mug and all is easy __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Ride stupid Die stupid To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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02-11-2009, 07:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
INTJ Chainat Last Online: Today 05:42 AM Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 31	I think paying money direct to the DMV only means that page 18 of the green book will show appropriate duties have been paid - ie. the spare parts have been re-assembled onto a complete machine. If my memory serves me correctly, this is 3% of the "value" of the bike. Once this tax has been paid and recorded, the BiB cannot seize the machine. As far as I'm aware paying this "tax" has nothing to do with getting a green book and number plates. More like a quick money spinner. Cheers

02-11-2009, 10:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
INTJ Chainat Last Online: Today 05:42 AM Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 31	There was an issue in Phuket (and maybe still is) where if a registered bike does not have the details of the duty being paid on page 18 of the book they will transfer the title. As this information is not automatically transferred into a new book (if the old one is lost/damaged/full), many older bikes did not have these details recorded, even though the taxes may have been paid. As I understand it, the 3% had to be paid in these cases as well, as the bike was deemed illegal even though it had a correct green book. The whole bike registration thing is a nightmare. I have quite a bit of experience, and would recommend buying a bike that is already plated and can be transferred at DMV. I would also steer clear of anything with a Prachinburi plate. It screams restamp. Cheers

08-11-2009, 10:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
The Muffinman Khao San Road Last Online: 16-11-2009 10:37 AM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nonthaburi Posts: 59	An update on my situation and some more questions. I've agreed to buy a 400 Dragster this week, imported parts and assembled in Bangkok, comes only with invoice. Before some of you start jumping down my throat for ignoring your advice to go legal let me explain the situation. I plan on making the bike fully legal (if I can?) before I take it out on the road. If that's not possible I will sell the bike on to my brother in law (Thai) who will just ride it unregistered. My question to any of you who have imported these kinds of bikes is : what is the procedure to get an imported bike into the system? Where do I start and what steps do I take? I'm aware that there's plenty of dodgy Somchais out there who can get me a grey book for the bike, but I'm not prepared to go down that route. Also, how much would I be expected to pay for everything if I were to manage to get the bike fully legal? Any helpfull advice will be greatly appreciated.

08-11-2009, 10:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 05:20 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 30,336	^ The shop who imported & built it should be able to do the paperwork for you as it is their responsibility.

08-11-2009, 11:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
The Muffinman Khao San Road Last Online: 16-11-2009 10:37 AM Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nonthaburi Posts: 59	Ok, but if I get the shop to do it, won't they just get me a recycled tabien anyway? I'd like to have a 100% legal book, where to go for that?

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