Compared to Thailand ... How cheap are cars in the West!

**jamescollister** · 19-07-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Surprisingly, they are not so many... (unless you mean the priced ones 5M>)

Don't follow what you mean, Australia has no locally produced cars anymore, all new cars are imported, ergo hit with import taxes.

**marcusb** · 19-07-2018, 05:17 PM

8 years ago used (big bike) motorcycle prices were quite high. The value from new barely went down a year later. At that time there were very few legal big bikes you could buy. Now they depreciate at roughly the same rate as Canada because the market is flooded.
I think the same is true with cars. 20 years ago there wasn't near as many cars here so the used ones held value. I thought that would have changed after the rebate scheme they had 5 years ago but it hasn't. One of these days the bubble will burst. This is all just beer theory.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:20 AM

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:25 AM

I think I'll buy me a Mercury.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:26 AM

Oh shoot. Forgot the pics.

Hold on......

Fish.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:29 AM

Ok so on my way home I saw a few gems.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:35 AM

20k that's us miles.I cant deal to this date in your terms....hell, I just thought,

Fish for president.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:39 AM

And cruise up and down these roads.

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:56 AM

Until you ....

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 11:59 AM

**fishlocker** · 21-07-2018, 12:00 PM

Threw it all away.

**Chittychangchang** · 22-07-2018, 03:13 AM

I'm considering buying this...

V8 Runs on LPG and a snip at £3,500/150k baht

A 4WD for similar money in Thailand would get me this pile of shite...

**Stumpy** · 22-07-2018, 08:09 AM

When I bought my fully loaded Hilux the conversion at the time made it $30,450. A similarly equipped Tacoma in the U.S. was $36,800 not including Calif sales tax which took it well over $40k

**aging one** · 22-07-2018, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

V8 Runs on LPG and a snip at £3,500/150k baht

A 4WD for similar money in Thailand would get me this pile of shite...

Good thing you live in the UK Chitty....

Come January when its below 0 and you have the heated seats on high enjoy......

**Stumpy** · 22-07-2018, 09:04 AM

To Bsnubs post, Used cars in the U.S. can be had cheap. A great majority lease and turn them in after 2 years and they have depreciated significantly. After 5 years the car is damn near 1/2 its cost new. Amazing that people finance a new car for 5 to 7 years at 3 or 4%.Pay reg and taxes at time of purchase plus other fees then in 3 years its lost 35% of its value and they still have 2 to 4 years left on the loan.

I doubt I would however buy a used vehicle in Thailand. Most from what I have seen do not keep up good maintenance and service. I would buy a beater truck though for farm use.

**OhOh** · 22-07-2018, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Most from what I have seen do not keep up good maintenance and service.

I agree but the Thai charges for labour and parts make any "improvements" easily bearable. The workshops also generally always offer to repair existing parts instead of replacement with new.

**bsnub** · 22-07-2018, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

3 years its lost 35% of its value and they still have 2 to 4 years left on the loan.

Not true with a Toyota 4wd though. They have almost no depreciation in the states.

**David48atTD** · 22-07-2018, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

3 years its lost 35% of its value and they still have 2 to 4 years left on the loan..

Originally Posted by bsnub

Not true with a Toyota 4wd though. They have almost no depreciation in the states.

Interesting ...

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**Stumpy** · 22-07-2018, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

I agree but the Thai charges for labour and parts make any "improvements" easily bearable. The workshops also generally always offer to repair existing parts instead of replacement with new.

Well I think newer cars say maybe 2012 and up are possible candidates for better service and maintenance here due in part people are making more money to keep them running better versus waiting until it degrades and doing bare minimum to keep it up. Also I think around 2012 or 13 according to my wife when you purchase a car you get free service for 2 years excluding oil, filter and such which like the states keeps you after it until the Free service stops and the warranty expires.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Not true with a Toyota 4wd though. They have almost no depreciation in the states.

I dunno Snubs, I had a 2014 Tacoma TRD 4x4 LB Crew Cab, bought it brand new. I sold it under 2 years later to move here to Thailand for work and lost almost $7K and that did not include my sales tax. So it was more like $10K. Basically it lost nearly 20-25% in 2 years.

But I will agree with you in that, Toyota trucks and SUV's hold their price better then any other manufacturer but like any vehicle they depreciate terribly fast which is why you can find used cars in great shape for really good deals. My Hilux I bought here is my last brand new vehicle I will buy whether it be here or back in the states.

. Its just silly to throw money away. Besides vehicles now are built so well they run and last a long time.

**Chittychangchang** · 22-07-2018, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Good thing you live in the UK Chitty....

Come January when its below 0 and you have the heated seats on high enjoy......

Not forgetting the heated steering wheel, it's fully loaded.

Makes a refreshing change those short dark winter days.

I actually used the a/c last week for the first time ever in this country.
2 solid months of temperatures around 30oC!

The hottest summer on record.

**Jack meoff** · 22-07-2018, 06:05 PM

I can picture you now Chitty, driving that down the country lanes of Munchester wearing a deerstalker and puffing on your pipe

**Bogon** · 22-07-2018, 08:57 PM

^ Elementary, my dear Jackson.

**Looper** · 22-07-2018, 09:18 PM

Part of the discrepancy must be down to the current exchange rate.

I got a fright last month when I was getting 24 baht to the dollar. Last time I was in LOS it was more like 30 baht.

**OhOh** · 22-07-2018, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

according to my wife when you purchase a car you get free service for 2 years excluding oil, filter and such which

I suspect the "services" are in terms of work/cost 95% visual inspections, until the warranty expires. The other 5% is engine oil and oil filter.

My Car Purchase in Thailand.

I bought a 2005 Hilux 2.5 diesel 4wd, extra cab, pickup three/four years ago. The body work and chassis were unblemished. My wife thought it "beautiful", she's so easily pleased. Her cousin a Bangkok "hiso" dealer service manager, I'm told, ran his eyes over it, revved the engine and kicked the tyres.

I took it to a Toyota service dealer and had an "Inspection Service". There they checked everything visually and replaced or topped up the fluids and fitted new air filters

Since then, Toyota truck-wise, I have replaced most of the front suspension joints and bushes, replaced all four shock absorbers, brake pads front and rear, a leaking cam cover gasket and lastly a new timing belt. It now feels and drives as new, (my comparison, over the same roads, was a new ISUZU, top of the range. 2wd pickup my wife's brother bought, had it for 1 year and had it repossessed for non payments of the loan).

Previously my pickup rattled and bounced when driving over pot holes roads, of which we have many around here. I have queried the clutch rattle and been informed that the clutch itself is sound and it only needs to be replaced if it starts slipping.

I thought a horrible whistling sound meant a new turbo, but it was diagnosed as a loosely tightened jubilee clip on the connector pipe between the air cooler and the turbo. Charged 250thb for diagnosis and screwdriver work.

In addition a new front bumper and winch was bought and installed for peace of mind and one instance of use. Four "All terrain" tires were bought where I should have bought mud tyres.

A few bumps and scratches now adorn the rear panels but that's due to narrow jungle tracks, obstinate river rocks and my gung-ho driving style.

The clutch will need to be done at some stage. Anyone know if there are such things as a "Mr. Clutch" franchises in Thailand? My local service garage suggests the G/box has to be removed, at a price 10,000thb for parts and labour, seems high to me maybe he didn't want to do it.

**fishlocker** · 22-07-2018, 11:06 PM

Im thinking 8 miles to the gallon. But if you have to ask, well you know.

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