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    Fortuner locked in parking position.

    My Fortuner shift lever has started to stick in the 'parked' position. I can get it out by pumping the brake peddle or by pressing the 'Shift Lock' at the same time as moving the lever. Now this shouldn't be as it should auto release on applying my foot to the brake peddle once.
    My questions are, do I need put it into the garage and have it checked out, or is it a thing that can wait until I put it in for its next service?



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    Are the brake lights working.

    Do you park on a hill? Try engaging the parking brake before putting it in "Park"

    I'd say get it looked at next time you drive by the dealer, or you might get stuck somewhere.

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    Yep brake lights work. I did know that if the car rolls slightly when being parked it can be a cause but it's parked regularly on flat ground. It may be I have to stick in the garage but I have no faith in my dealers and I'd like to know what's possibly wrong before I seek their help.

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    If you have poggle on the Interweb I think it will say it is likely to be the solenoid that locks the thing in Park.

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    The shift lock should bypass this auto-locking feature indefinitely as long as you need it, and also allow you to be able to leave it in neutral and remove the keys.

    I'd take it to the dealer as it'll be a real simple fix regardless.

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    Thanks to all respondents. I'll take it into the dealers as soon as I can. I was thinking that may be I had air in the brake system hence why it released upon pumping the brake peddle.

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    LOL nah the lock you're talking about is electronic safety stuff. Some cars you can feel a solid click when you push the brake pedal.

    Easy fix at the dealer.

    Prolly a solenoid like Neal says or a fuse powering it or something easy.

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    Mate, just my 2 cents worth.

    My Auto, in the West sometimes shows the same as in your OP ... seems to lock in Park.

    It happens when I Stop on a Hill, put it in 'Park' and it rolls just a bit ... then the Handbrake.

    I call it a 'Pin' but others name it as a 'Parking Pawl' and it seems to stick when it's 'loaded'
    i.e. parked on an incline and the Auto stopping the car rolling and not the handbrake.


    Good info on it here

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    Yeah we call it a "dog" or "pawl" in transmission speak at home too. Same tech used in winches & cranes as well.

    But what OP is talking about is the safety lock I.E. must push on the brake pedal with your foot to unlock the shifter from park.

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    I went to the dealers today. Numerous twats spent 2 hours pratting about doing emergency stops in and around the service area. Conclusion was that the brake peddle was to high and not connecting with something that tells the car to take it outta park. They said they'd adjusted it and the problem was sorted. Cost 270 Baht.
    I then drove to the shops and parked up. On return the problem was still there. Missus phoned telling them she wasn't going to pay again. So another planned 2 hour visit to the dealers when I can be bothered. My dealers are the pits. Fcuk.

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    2 hours ..... 270 Baht.
    stop complaining.

    that would have cost you 9000 baht at a london dealership.

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    ^Then theres the 600 baht of petrol they used up

    Try putting the handbrake on before you stick it into Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    stop complaining.

    that would have cost you 9000 baht at a london dealership.
    How much shipping costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Conclusion was that the brake peddle was to high and not connecting with something that tells the car to take it outta park.
    Numpties. If the brake lights come on that is good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    ^Then theres the 600 baht of petrol they used up

    Try putting the handbrake on before you stick it into Park.
    Well done Dill. We'll give it a go.

    Applying the parking brake before you put it in park eliminates that problem. The brake holds the car in place and doesn't let the car roll until the parking pawl jams up. You just have to remember -- when you come back -- to take the transmission out of park first before releasing the parking brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Conclusion was that the brake peddle was to high and not connecting with something that tells the car to take it outta park
    Odd they concluded that given as you said brake lights working. Same switch that operates the solenoid that locks gear shift in park. A guess from afar but suspect a wiring prob or faulty solenoid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    My dealers are the pits. Fcuk.
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Prolly a solenoid like Neal says or a fuse powering it
    Get the part numbers and order them in yourself.

    Swap 'em out.

    If still fudged, then take it to the Thai dealer.


    If you give it to them first, they'll fok it up more, will have the tires up to 472psi, have swapped out the original parts for Chinese crap and will have managed to scrap and dent the roof.

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    This kind of thing is real easy with a DVOM & a little knowledge.

    Sucks that it's so hard to find any of that here in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Get the part numbers and order them in yourself.

    Swap 'em out.

    If still fudged, then take it to the Thai dealer.


    If you give it to them first, they'll fok it up more, will have the tires up to 472psi, have swapped out the original parts for Chinese crap and will have managed to scrap and dent the roof.
    Ive come to the conclusion that they over inflate the tires not out of stupidity, but intentionally. Increase the tire wear & force someone to buy more, faster.

    Had them ask me before how much air I want in the tires. Considering they are stock replacements on stock wheels, I want what the manufacturer reccomends on the door tag. Usually around 32 psi. Oh no 45 much better they say. Wtf man no it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Do you park on a hill? Try engaging the parking brake before putting it in "Park"
    Two votes for the engage brake before transmission

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    My fuse is okay because the brake lights are working. Fuse goes brake lights don't work also.

    This guy caps it for me.

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    If the car is on level road, not much. The transmission lock is sufficient to stop anyone pushing the car away.

    If the car is on a slope, then the full weight of the vehicle rests on the transmission lock. Transmissions are designed with this in mind, so not much bad is likely to happen. But it still never feels right to me.

    What sometimes happens though is that the pressure on the lock makes it hard to move the selector out of park. The weight of the vehicle can cause the lock to jam in place and it takes a bit of force to move free it. Also not a good feeling.

    Best practice is to pull on the handbrake so that it takes all the weight of the vehicle, and then put the transmission into P.




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    If you don't re-polarize the vacuum modulator, the malfunctioning inhibitor could explode, so firstly, realign the gravimetric wave refractor, then uncouple the hyperdrive pulse buffer, clean the goo off the nanowave oscillator assembly and bobs your uncle ..... youre good to go.

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    So does pulling the park brake before putting it in park fix the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Ive come to the conclusion that they over inflate the tires not out of stupidity, but intentionally. Increase the tire wear & force someone to buy more, faster.
    I think you're giving their level of intelligence and foresight way too much credit.


    REckon that most grew up in some small village where there was one air compressor with no gauge. Their granddad and dad, and everyone did it by hand, until the tire was rock fookin' solid. Makes it go faster!

    So that is the way it must be done. The Thai way. The correct way.


    Some idiot Western company tells them how to do it properly?? Wot a laugh, the Thai way is the correct way and how it should be done.

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