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    E85 Conversion, anyone done it?

    I had my 2008 CRV converted to E85 about 2 months ago after considering LPG which we ran in our Mazda 3 before selling it. For just under 7k I thought I'd give it a whirl.


    The installation took about an our and the garage informed me to change the fuel filter after the second refill which I did. He also mentioned I'd notice a slight performance increase but the savings in fuel would be obvious.

    Anyway, I can confirm the savings are good. To fill the tank previously if I ran it nearly dry took just under 2k to fill. Average refill was about 1700bht if I filled just when the light appeared. After the conversion my cost is 1100bht or there about.

    I can't say I've noticed any performance gains, having said that the fuel type does make a difference. If I use PTT E85 my average urban mileage can drop to 7.5km per ltr, but with Green Leaf it increased to 9.5. There is a huge performance difference between the 2 fuel type also. Green leaf is much more responsive.

    So far I'm chuffed with the savings.
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    What is involved with the conversion? What needs to be done?

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    The LPG conversion costs what? about 25,000 baht, so depending on mileage... the ROI is x (for me, I think it was about 2 years).

    What do you reckon on the E85, JJ?

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    What were your km/l before, using "conventional" fuel? I only have rough comparison numbers from Brazil +/-100% alcohol vs gasoline. I got a lot less "mileage" from alcohol. About 25% less.

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    I found the conversion on my Benz S 500 when I bought it. It was faulty and had been switched off. The car cost about 8 baht per km on 95 octane fuel. Now,after I repaired the unit,( it was water logged after pressure water cleaning of the engine bay !) fuel costs are 3 - 4 baht per Km,with I think a slight gain in performance.Quite happy.

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    ^half price, very good.

    LPG worked out at half price too.

    NGV worked out (if I remember correctly) at 1/4 price, but the upfront costs were higher and suspension mods needed due to the tank weight. Thus, only worthwhile if you bought a car already altered by the manufacturer, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The LPG conversion costs what? about 25,000 baht, so depending on mileage... the ROI is x (for me, I think it was about 2 years).

    What do you reckon on the E85, JJ?
    Cost of Installation vs time driven I'd say E85 is more cost effective.

    Example: I use my car 3/4 times a week from BKK to Min buri.

    If your car is going to be sat most of the week, the expense of LPG isn't worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx View Post
    What is involved with the conversion? What needs to be done?
    Nothing, it is a plug and play device. Similar to bolting in an modified ECU. Easier in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    What were your km/l before, using "conventional" fuel? I only have rough comparison numbers from Brazil +/-100% alcohol vs gasoline. I got a lot less "mileage" from alcohol. About 25% less.
    From a full tank of 95 and E85 it is near impossible to tell. On a good run I get just over 600k on a full tank. Similar to 95. I've seen some reports saying they get less mileage per tank on E85, but I haven't experienced that. The big saving in fuel cost outweighs the slight difference in mileage, if any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Cost of Installation vs time driven I'd say E85 is more cost effective.
    Interesting. The LPG conversion has certainly saved us bucket loads of cash over the last 4 years or so. If E85 is even better then fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    If E85 is even better then fantastic!
    so if the cost of E85 goes up then you can just unplug the device ?

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    ^ that is a potential issue, good point. The LPG and NPV are dual fuels, so you have the option of standard petrol. For that reason alone, I like the LPG route. Nice to have options though, and JJ has nicely highlighted another option.

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    you can disable it from behind the wheel or switch it off with a switch,which in my car is in the boot.

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    ^ any other changes needed, filter, etc?

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    Why change? You can still stick 91, 95 or e20 in.

    No issue with this kit. The only thing that will require changing is the fuel lines in a couple of years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    You can still stick 91, 95 or e20 in.
    OK, that's good, didn't realize...

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