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    Review of Honda Click 125i

    I just completed a review on the Honda Click 125i which I put on my web site and uploaded on You Tube. Over on You Tube you can enter Jack Corbett and Pattaya for your search phrases. Since it seems I don't have five posts here yet I can't give a direct link to my review. But there's a link to my web site on my You Tube channel and from there one would go to the Looking Glass.

    Since a lot of users on other bike forums speak highly of this bike and it's at a similar price point as the Yamaha Nouvo SX I felt such a review was overdue. I measured the bike's fuel economy over 136 km from Pattaya to Rayong and then I had a good friend drive it so I could get a second opinion to my own. Among other things we even set out paper towel rolls in my condo parking lot so we could focus our attention more on the bike's handling and how well it stacks up against the competition.

    I would welcome everyone's thoughts here on how I've discussed at length how a floorboard style motorbike such as the Click, Honda Scoopy, Yamaha Fino, Mio or Filano differs from a Yamaha Elegance, Nouvo SX, Honda Wave, Honda PCX, Suzuki Hayate, etc which have in my opinion better bracing inside their plastic panels covering their engines, drive train, etc. and why in my opinion these motorbikes with floorboards suffer a handling disadvantage to the non-floorboard bikes in order to offer more legroom and better utility.

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    I have one and surprisingly it handles/rides just like a scooter (much like they all do)......

    whats the chances of that !!!

    Get a few more posts happening then bung up the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    I have one and surprisingly it handles/rides just like a scooter (much like they all do)......

    whats the chances of that !!!

    Get a few more posts happening then bung up the link.

    Will do that. In fact I just got a private message from one of the members and cannot respond to him directly. Might have him in my email box as I've heard from him before. Problem is I don't have five posts yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    I have one and surprisingly it handles/rides just like a scooter (much like they all do)......

    whats the chances of that !!!

    Get a few more posts happening then bung up the link.
    I'm not sure what you meant when you mentioned it handles/rides just like a scooter. (much like they all do). I even get a little confused myself. Someone might post that his Ducati performs like a real bike and not like a scooter. For him he was classifying all small bikes in the 125 c.c. class as scooters. Even my Nouvo Elegance. But for me a bike with a floorboard is a scooter whereas the likes of a Honda Wave, Suzuki Hayate, Yamaha Elegance, etc is something a little different. First it does not have a floorboard. Also...when I think of "scooters" I think of Vespas and the like with 12 inch diameter wheels, even 10 inch wheels. And Honda categorizes a Honda Click as an underbone. So it's not a scooter? It has a floorboard doesn't it? And then I head down to the main Mitteyand dealer on Pattaya Tai and taking a close look at a Vespa I notice that the engine is just in front of the rear tire. Now that's a far cry from anything close to a 50-50 weight distribution. Well, its a scooter to be sure. But a Honda Click has its engine much farther forward than the Vespas. What I am getting at what differences in all these bikes account for their handling differences.

    Okay...again...Honda calls a Honda Click an Underbone. But (I just found this) Wikipedia says this: "
    Underbones are often mistaken for scooters and are sometimes marketed as such. However, an underbone does not have a footboard, and is therefore not a scooter.
    The engine of an underbone is usually fixed to the chassis under the downtube, while a scooter usually has its engine mounted on its swingarm. As a result, underbone engines are usually further forwards than those of scooters. A typical underbone therefore has a more central center of gravity than a typical scooter. Furthermore, having an engine mounted on the swingarm gives a typical scooter more unsprung mass than a typical underbone. These factors give a typical underbone better handling than a typical scooter."


    For one thing I need to get even better pictures. Like to get a dealer to completely expose the engine, drivetrain and chassis of something on the order of a Yamaha Nouvo Elegance and a Honda Click, Honda Scoopy etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    I have one and surprisingly it handles/rides just like a scooter (much like they all do)......

    whats the chances of that !!!

    Get a few more posts happening then bung up the link.
    I'm not sure what you meant when you mentioned it handles/rides just like a scooter. (much like they all do).
    not exactly a sports/touring bike are they.

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    No need for a messy semantic debate.
    I'll give you scooters with pegs handle differently than those with floorboard and rear mounted engine. You'll have a hard sell on getting anyone to recognize and differentiate in naming. "Hey, that's a sweet looking underbone you have there" just doesn't ring.

    I've always found the latter wobbly things and refuse to ride them.
    Which one is better for riding four up with the wife and kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    I've always found the latter wobbly things and refuse to ride them. Which one is better for riding four up with the wife and kids?
    The Thais see them all as pretty much the same.
    I've driven 1000s of km on both click and airblade. The difference is obvious in the first ten metres and is compounded when you take either on a longer run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    I've always found the latter wobbly things and refuse to ride them. Which one is better for riding four up with the wife and kids?
    The Thais see them all as pretty much the same.
    I've driven 1000s of km on both click and airblade. The difference is obvious in the first ten metres and is compounded when you take either on a longer run.
    A German friend of mine said the same thing....that being he could not tell the difference between two different scooter type machines. He's got a Kawasaki 650 Ninja. Well, I can tell a huge difference.

    By the way, there is one split second in my You Tube where my friend John (PlONe) is overheard saying "crap" as I'm pointing out the floorboard of my girlfriend's Yamaha Filano. I never got around to editing out that very short epithet. But I do want to point out that he did not mean anything when he uttered it and it did not reflect his opinion of any of the bikes. He just Happened to be stubbing his toe at the wrong time.

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    Let me see if I can get that link to my article and you tube video working. (will five posts do it? We will see. Jack Corbett Honda Click Review--acceleration, fuel economy handling

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    Shit, are you getting paid for this as you seem to have gone to much effort?

    I'm sure your mate did mean crap.

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    The big difference is in stability. I assumed that the airblade was much heavier, but I checked and the difference is negligible. It's obviously all about structure and weight distribution, especially with a full tank on the airblade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Shit, are you getting paid for this as you seem to have gone to much effort?

    I'm sure your mate did mean crap.
    I'm not getting paid. I just have a lot of fun shooting videos, doing reviews and in a case like this one, getting to the bottom of things.

    I don't think my friend meant "crap" My girlfriend was present and he'd never try to insult her. I'm pretty much up front with her about her little bike and make no secret of the fact that it's just not in with some of the bigger bikes. A the same time I tell her it's cute and I do enjoy driving it for short hops to the fitness club etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    The big difference is in stability. I assumed that the airblade was much heavier, but I checked and the difference is negligible. It's obviously all about structure and weight distribution, especially with a full tank on the airblade.

    I drove a Click 110 in Krabi and I hated it. So I went out and rented an Air Blade which really impressed me. At the time I owned a Yamaha Nouvo MX 115 with air cooling. The Click just didn't handle right. I think this new 125i is far superior to the 110 I rented in Krabi. It's got a lot of good points but the handling is not as competent as Yamaha's Nouvos and it certainly lags behind the PCX. I really like the idea of the 5.5 liter fuel tank however and as I mentioned I feel that Yamaha blundered by offering the Nouvo SX with only a 4.3 liter tank. From what I've seen this means I will get more miles down the road (on the highway) with my 4,8 liter Yamaha Nouvo Elegance than its replacement and believe me it's a nice feeling when you are out driving around Krabi and stand an excellent chance of getting lost or for that matter want to drive around Rayong knowing you have plenty of fuel onboard.

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    Friend has just bought the click and he's chuffed with the amount of shopping he can get on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Friend has just bought the click and he's chuffed with the amount of shopping he can get on it!

    He's got to like the power his Click has for a little 125 cc. bike.

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    Having driven the PCX 125 I can imagine the Click with the same engine would a danger in the wrong hands.

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    It's hard to find horsepower figures for Honda's small bikes. I got an 11.7 h.p. figure from Wikipedia's article on the PCX 125 which said this same engine is used in the new Click. I do suppose I'm onto something about this underbone theory and how all that bracing or lack of it affects the handling of a bike for better or worse. Wikipedia says no bike with a floorboard is an underbone and Honda claims the Click is an Underbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Having driven the PCX 125 I can imagine the Click with the same engine would a danger in the wrong hands.
    If you liked the PCX 125 you'd love the PCX 150. When Peter and I ran the two bikes to Rayong the 150 was 10 kph faster than his 125 and it had better acceleration, didn't seem to work nearly as hard at those higher speeds and it seemed to be even more stable than his 125.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Having driven the PCX 125 I can imagine the Click with the same engine would a danger in the wrong hands.
    If you liked the PCX 125 you'd love the PCX 150. When Peter and I ran the two bikes to Rayong the 150 was 10 kph faster than his 125 and it had better acceleration, didn't seem to work nearly as hard at those higher speeds and it seemed to be even more stable than his 125.
    I've had a PCX 150 for a year now and it's absolutely the best bike in it's class IMO. It replaced a click and there is just no comparison. The fuel economy of the PCX is amazing. Also have a Yamaha 135 which is a very good bike but not nearly as snazzy as the PCX...

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    The Midget was going to get a PCX to replace my 110i Wave that I never used. But I screwed that plan up by getting the CB500, so she has to make do with the 125i Wave.

    After getting the CB, I think the Wave feels bloody unstable and really don't want to ride it any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorbett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Having driven the PCX 125 I can imagine the Click with the same engine would a danger in the wrong hands.
    If you liked the PCX 125 you'd love the PCX 150. When Peter and I ran the two bikes to Rayong the 150 was 10 kph faster than his 125 and it had better acceleration, didn't seem to work nearly as hard at those higher speeds and it seemed to be even more stable than his 125.
    I've had a PCX 150 for a year now and it's absolutely the best bike in it's class IMO. It replaced a click and there is just no comparison. The fuel economy of the PCX is amazing. Also have a Yamaha 135 which is a very good bike but not nearly as snazzy as the PCX...
    I really like the larger Michelin tires I've put on my Elegance. I really think the PCX 150 is pretty capable on the highway so long as one is cruising at speeds less than 100 kph. But I'd say that's pretty competent. Per used to drive his PCX 125 often and he always said one needs nothing bigger for Thailand. But the 150 is 10 kph faster and a little more stable yet. And from what we measured, it gets the same fuel economy as the 125. But in town my Yamaha 135 handles like it's on wires. No...it won't match a 150 PCX going 100 kph on the highway but I think here in town it's really hard to beat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    The Midget was going to get a PCX to replace my 110i Wave that I never used. But I screwed that plan up by getting the CB500, so she has to make do with the 125i Wave.

    After getting the CB, I think the Wave feels bloody unstable and really don't want to ride it any more.

    Do you have stock tire on the Wave? If you do they are awfully skinny. I've seen Waves outfitted with much larger tires aftermarket and no doubt the Wave's competence would be much greater so equipped. Thais like cheap. The Waves are marketed especially towards Thais especially the 110's. Small tires offer a little better fuel economy and when you are poor and in the village a little savings here and there goes a long way.

    That said.....that CB 500 has to be one helluva bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    The Midget was going to get a PCX to replace my 110i Wave that I never used. But I screwed that plan up by getting the CB500, so she has to make do with the 125i Wave.

    After getting the CB, I think the Wave feels bloody unstable and really don't want to ride it any more.
    It would do Marmite , with you on it.
    I have a 4 year old 125 Wave I ride when it rain you can throw it around it has taken 40,000klm
    To brake the geer box in, as it would away's jump out of gear.

    So how the gear box 125i. Wave now

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